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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby RiddlerJ » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:16 pm

Are the PCC Dinobots and Constructicons out yet?

I'm partial to the PCC. I think it would've been better if they sold the weapons alone like mini-con three pics. I wouldn't snapped tons of those up to make all my Classics targetmasters.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:21 pm

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RiddlerJ wrote:Are the PCC Dinobots and Constructicons out yet?

I'm partial to the PCC. I think it would've been better if they sold the weapons alone like mini-con three pics. I wouldn't snapped tons of those up to make all my Classics targetmasters.


The Dinobots and Constructicons have been out for a while. I've seen them mostly at Wal-Mart.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Slashercon » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:11 pm

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Slashercon wrote:Wait, if the DOTM toys are simply smaller than before because of the Mech Tech gimmick, WHY THE HECK DID THE REUSE THE SAME D@#N VOYAGER RATCHET FOR ALL THREE MOVIES??!! I WANTED A NEWLY MOLDED VOYAGER RATCHET THAT WAS SIMPLY SMALLER, AND WHEN HASBRO HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY, THEY DIDN'T CAPITALIZE ON IT!! WHAT THE HECK??!! (Ugh!! Anyway, I'm just glad I passed on HFTD Bumblebee so I could get the better looking DOTM deluxe Bumblebee. At least he's the same size.) One major upside the DOTM toys being smaller though is that Skids and Mudflap can be in better scale with ma collection.


The DotM Deluxe Ratchet is entirely new.


XD :) AH, hahahahahahaha!!! Um, quick question: IS IT VOYAGER??!! NO!!


How annoying.


I apologize. I'm just a little mad that they MADE A NEW COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VOYAGER MOLD FOR IRONHIDE AND NOT RATCHET!!! (Did I mention a bat credit card?)
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Pretender Skywarp » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:29 am

CP,

Did you happen to ask about those alternate head moulds we keep seeing via instruction sheets?

The interview about Wreck-Gar in the new club magazine does not fill me with confidence that they will come to pass :-(
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Rodimus the Prime » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:53 am

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Counterpunch wrote:-The Star Wars team really knows their ****.


What prompted your observation here, Counterpunch? Just curious because I'm an active Star Wars collector too.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby ickypulp029 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:22 am

The new Cyberverse figures were really cool.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:12 am

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Counterpunch, thanks for all the intel.

May I ask about a size comparison regarding the Dotm and previous line deluxe sizing?

Are the Dotm cars or jets obviously smaller than their Tf1/Rotf and Classics/Generations/HftD cousins when together on the shelf? (In my head, I would treat a car 1cm or more shorter in length than a classics car an obvious difference, since the classics are already smaller than the movie toys).

(My guess is that any cross-line height differeneces in Bot mode wouldn't vary beyond half an inch, as the toys are designed with a final bot height in mind at expense of vehicle scale, if I understand correctly).

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Jazz-1982 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:42 am

Thanks very much Counterpunch it was great to get that info even if it wasn't such good news:

No Generations Arcee :sad:

And not even confirmation that Masterpiece Rodimus will be released - I thought he was supposed to be a Toys R'Us exclusive?
I'm going to start looking for a reasonably priced one online over here unless there's some better news from Botcon.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Bullycon » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:59 am

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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Counterpunch » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:58 am

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Pretender Skywarp wrote:CP,

Did you happen to ask about those alternate head moulds we keep seeing via instruction sheets?


No, but Monzo did. The Hasbro guys knew what was happening with those and asked if we liked it. I have no doubt that we'll see a Wreck-gar head remold in the Western markets.

Rodimus the Prime wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:-The Star Wars team really knows their ****.


What prompted your observation here, Counterpunch? Just curious because I'm an active Star Wars collector too.


They had a VIP event where the various development teams talked about their figures. Out of ANY of the groups, it was the Star Wars guys cracking wise about characters, plot minutia, and how cool their stuff was. I'm a Star Wars fan too and I think maybe they were more knowledgeable than I am about it (which is rare for a rep).

Autobot Smoketreader wrote:Counterpunch, thanks for all the intel.

May I ask about a size comparison regarding the Dotm and previous line deluxe sizing?

Are the Dotm cars or jets obviously smaller than their Tf1/Rotf and Classics/Generations/HftD cousins when together on the shelf? (In my head, I would treat a car 1cm or more shorter in length than a classics car an obvious difference, since the classics are already smaller than the movie toys).

(My guess is that any cross-line height differeneces in Bot mode wouldn't vary beyond half an inch, as the toys are designed with a final bot height in mind at expense of vehicle scale, if I understand correctly).

Thanks in advance.


They toys are starkly different at the Voyager class. They are absolutely out of scale with your previous stuff. Megatron is very very small. Ironhide is a touch undersized where his previous toy was a touch oversized. The deluxe figures are not as drastic. Leaders were still in scale. It's a mixed bag, but overall, this line is meant to be displayed independently I think.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Flux Convoy » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:33 pm

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I had a question I keep forgetting to ask ya, ha. Are the Cyberverse commanders the normal Legends size? I'm really liking that Powerglide and wanted a decent idea of his size. Thanks for all the info bud.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Counterpunch » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:58 pm

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Flux Convoy wrote:I had a question I keep forgetting to ask ya, ha. Are the Cyberverse commanders the normal Legends size? I'm really liking that Powerglide and wanted a decent idea of his size. Thanks for all the info bud.
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Bigger, more like current Scout sizes.
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby PrimeGestalt » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:23 pm

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And with the leftover Throttler and Double Clutch figures, I could create a shoddy clone of Double Clutch as a Twin-pack set, and call it "Fall-Apart with Pointyhead"...you know...cause Throttler would sit on top of Fall-Apart as a pointy-head-looking thing... :lol:
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Rodimus the Prime » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:18 pm

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Counterpunch wrote:-The Star Wars team really knows their ****.


What prompted your observation here, Counterpunch? Just curious because I'm an active Star Wars collector too.


They had a VIP event where the various development teams talked about their figures. Out of ANY of the groups, it was the Star Wars guys cracking wise about characters, plot minutia, and how cool their stuff was. I'm a Star Wars fan too and I think maybe they were more knowledgeable than I am about it (which is rare for a rep).


Thanks, Counterpunch! Much appreciated!
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby It Is Him » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:00 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Info from Greg Lombardo, Senior Director of Global Marketing for the Transformers brand at Hasbro
-Those Wal Mart SKUs for Arcee and Starscream-
Those were meant to be the Prime toys. They are NOT Classics style figures. Originally, the Prime toys were going to be fit into the Generations line.


This proves my theory that Generations was planned to continue alongside the movie line. Now the question becomes, what happens in Fall 2011 Wave 3 and beyond? More Prime? More Generations? This is a nice mystery to have.

Counterpunch wrote:
Pretender Skywarp wrote:CP,

Did you happen to ask about those alternate head moulds we keep seeing via instruction sheets?


No, but Monzo did. The Hasbro guys knew what was happening with those and asked if we liked it. I have no doubt that we'll see a Wreck-gar head remold in the Western markets.



Have you read the latest issue of the OTFCC magazine? It doesn't answer the question of when, but it does have nice info about the head molds that I'm surprised no one has been talking about yet (and if Seibertronions have been talking about it, I haven't seen it).
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby NTESHFT » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:41 pm

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I got a couple of sort of off topic questions. Takara Re-released Megatron. will Hasbro do the same? And what about Frenzy and Rumble? Will Hasbro release them too?
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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:04 pm

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headsortails wrote:I got a couple of sort of off topic questions. Takara Re-released Megatron. will Hasbro do the same? And what about Frenzy and Rumble? Will Hasbro release them too?


I seem to recall Hasbro saying that they could never release the classics version of Megatron again in the U.S. no matter the color scheme because of toy laws. But then these things are subject to change. I don't remember the source so take that as you will.

This picture of Demolition Rumble confirms he will be released in Reveal the Shield. No confirmation of Frenzy that I know of but it is most likely. I can't see Hasbro releasing one and not the other since they have been so fond of repaints.

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Re: Things I learned at Toy Fair

Postby Jazz-1982 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:50 am

Counterpunch wrote:
Pretender Skywarp wrote:CP,

Did you happen to ask about those alternate head moulds we keep seeing via instruction sheets?


No, but Monzo did. The Hasbro guys knew what was happening with those and asked if we liked it. I have no doubt that we'll see a Wreck-gar head remold in the Western markets.

Rodimus the Prime wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:-The Star Wars team really knows their ****.


What prompted your observation here, Counterpunch? Just curious because I'm an active Star Wars collector too.


They had a VIP event where the various development teams talked about their figures. Out of ANY of the groups, it was the Star Wars guys cracking wise about characters, plot minutia, and how cool their stuff was. I'm a Star Wars fan too and I think maybe they were more knowledgeable than I am about it (which is rare for a rep).

Autobot Smoketreader wrote:Counterpunch, thanks for all the intel.

May I ask about a size comparison regarding the Dotm and previous line deluxe sizing?

Are the Dotm cars or jets obviously smaller than their Tf1/Rotf and Classics/Generations/HftD cousins when together on the shelf? (In my head, I would treat a car 1cm or more shorter in length than a classics car an obvious difference, since the classics are already smaller than the movie toys).

(My guess is that any cross-line height differeneces in Bot mode wouldn't vary beyond half an inch, as the toys are designed with a final bot height in mind at expense of vehicle scale, if I understand correctly).

Thanks in advance.


They toys are starkly different at the Voyager class. They are absolutely out of scale with your previous stuff. Megatron is very very small. Ironhide is a touch undersized where his previous toy was a touch oversized. The deluxe figures are not as drastic. Leaders were still in scale. It's a mixed bag, but overall, this line is meant to be displayed independently I think.




That seems to be a bit of a current trend for Hasbro. I've noticed that G.I.Joe and Star Wars 3 3/4 inch figures have become really tiny compared to what they used to be.
I'm not surprised that some Transformers lines will be following suit.
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