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Is The Fallen any good, as a figure?

Va'al wrote:Is The Fallen any good, as a figure?

indeed he is, yes.
The issues with all three versions of him are the same though. the paint. The best painted version is dark green, shown above.
They have a black one, but he's, well...

to much orange..
The final version is HFTD Fallen, wich, moldwise, is the best. Posable hans and head, cammander staff, and removable face! His problem? He's all blue! It looks like he fell through a polar ice cap!
but yeah, if I were to recomend one, it'd be the one shone above.

Va'al wrote:Is The Fallen any good, as a figure?

I've never gotten my claws into the origenal fig, but the HFTD version isn't to bad. Just crappy colors and a tendency to pop part off.

It's pretty decent as a robot figure, but is one of the biggest offenders of "Robot Yoga" of any of the Movieverse 'cybertronian mode' figures - he doesn't so much have a space craft mode, as much as he has a 'robot taking an unusual yoga position and coincidentally having wings that way' mode.

He's very much a YMMV type figure overall, honestly. Some love him, depending on the paint job, others hate him because he doesn't really transform.

Valandar wrote:It's pretty decent as a robot figure, but is one of the biggest offenders of "Robot Yoga" of any of the Movieverse 'cybertronian mode' figures - he doesn't so much have a space craft mode, as much as he has a 'robot taking an unusual yoga position and coincidentally having wings that way' mode.

He's very much a YMMV type figure overall, honestly. Some love him, depending on the paint job, others hate him because he doesn't really transform.

i have the original and i have to say i love him. i would have loved to get the HFTD one. never saw it in my stores.

Valandar wrote:It's pretty decent as a robot figure, but is one of the biggest offenders of "Robot Yoga" of any of the Movieverse 'cybertronian mode' figures - he doesn't so much have a space craft mode, as much as he has a 'robot taking an unusual yoga position and coincidentally having wings that way' mode.

He's very much a YMMV type figure overall, honestly. Some love him, depending on the paint job, others hate him because he doesn't really transform.

I found out if you stand him on end, which he can do, I thought he looked an awful lot like the Solar Harvester! Say, if I bought four of them and put them together at the corners I could have my own solar harvester prop! LOL!

Consider my mind blown =O Do you think they intended that? Between his solar panels and alt mode silhouette, the design seems more thought-out than people give him credit for.

Rushie wrote:Consider my mind blown =O Do you think they intended that? Between his solar panels and alt mode silhouette, the design seems more thought-out than people give him credit for.

The only people who don't like the fallen, are the people whov'e never played with him enough to know just how much there is there! He's a posable figure, that's for damn sure!

OK. To break up all the The Fallen Banter,

your welcome

Almost every single Jet TF has a gerwalk mode

(Heck they even included a Gerwalker mode for classics Jetfire)







Or this



I'm not sure if these technically count...

Not that it really does anything, but RTS Windcharger hasa bunch of stuff tampographed into the underside of his car roof. Not sure what they are supposed to be, but it is nice detail.

--B-- wrote:Not that it really does anything, but RTS Windcharger hasa bunch of stuff tampographed into the underside of his car roof. Not sure what they are supposed to be, but it is nice detail.

That's not tampographing, that's molded detail. Tampographing is for sticker like paint detailing.

BeastProwl wrote:OK. To break up all the The Fallen Banter,

your welcome

Why is Starscream all mangled?

And to clear something up,what the hell is a "Gerwalk" mode???

"Gerwalk" dates from Macross, brought over to the US as "Robotech".

In Macross, the transforming fighters could take a half-mode, as shown above - still capable of flight, unlike robot mode, but not as fast as jet mode. In space it was faster than bot mode and slower than jet, but more maneuverable than either. Biggest limitation was it only could use the gun pod and wing-mounted weapons, and none of the internal missile or bomb bays.

This half mode was called "Gerwalk" ("Guardian" in Robotech).

Valandar wrote:"Gerwalk" dates from Macross, brought over to the US as "Robotech".

In Macross, the transforming fighters could take a half-mode, as shown above - still capable of flight, unlike robot mode, but not as fast as jet mode. In space it was faster than bot mode and slower than jet, but more maneuverable than either. Biggest limitation was it only could use the gun pod and wing-mounted weapons, and none of the internal missile or bomb bays.

This half mode was called "Gerwalk" ("Guardian" in Robotech).

Robotech/Macross kicks so much ass... I always wanted a cycle-suit... Love the fact that they fought those giant Zentradi mechs just in exo suits

lol @ all the gerwalk pics.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Valandar wrote:"Gerwalk" dates from Macross, brought over to the US as "Robotech".

In Macross, the transforming fighters could take a half-mode, as shown above - still capable of flight, unlike robot mode, but not as fast as jet mode. In space it was faster than bot mode and slower than jet, but more maneuverable than either. Biggest limitation was it only could use the gun pod and wing-mounted weapons, and none of the internal missile or bomb bays.

This half mode was called "Gerwalk" ("Guardian" in Robotech).

Robotech/Macross kicks so much ass... I always wanted a cycle-suit... Love the fact that they fought those giant Zentradi mechs just in exo suits

Umm... they never did.

The Cyclones ("M.O.S.P.A.E.D.A.") fought the Invid ("Inbid") in Gen 3, which was based on Genesis Climber MOSPAEDA. The Invid were much smaller and weaker than Zentraedi ("Zentran / Meltran"), and their primary advantage was numbers and speed. Thus, the Cyclones were better suited for fighting them than the larger and slower Veritechs.

Valandar wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Valandar wrote:"Gerwalk" dates from Macross, brought over to the US as "Robotech".

In Macross, the transforming fighters could take a half-mode, as shown above - still capable of flight, unlike robot mode, but not as fast as jet mode. In space it was faster than bot mode and slower than jet, but more maneuverable than either. Biggest limitation was it only could use the gun pod and wing-mounted weapons, and none of the internal missile or bomb bays.

This half mode was called "Gerwalk" ("Guardian" in Robotech).

Robotech/Macross kicks so much ass... I always wanted a cycle-suit... Love the fact that they fought those giant Zentradi mechs just in exo suits

Umm... they never did.

The Cyclones ("M.O.S.P.A.E.D.A.") fought the Invid ("Inbid") in Gen 3, which was based on Genesis Climber MOSPAEDA. The Invid were much smaller and weaker than Zentraedi ("Zentran / Meltran"), and their primary advantage was numbers and speed. Thus, the Cyclones were better suited for fighting them than the larger and slower Veritechs.

Hahaha, wow i got a lot wrong. Oh well, I only watched it as a kid, I don't remember that much. Those hovertank mechs were sick too, with the hot blonde chick.

Thanks for clearing that up.I think ROTF deluxe Skids can do that. Let me check.

You can attach energon stars to Armada Predacon's legs

godzillabot wrote:You can attach energon stars to Armada Predacon's legs

wich means Transmetal megatron to you n00bs out there!

BeastProwl wrote:

godzillabot wrote:You can attach energon stars to Armada Predacon's legs

wich means Transmetal megatron to you n00bs out there!

nope, Predacon is a slight remold. He has Minicon ports and larger leg details (or smaller, as I don't own the original mold)

godzillabot wrote:

BeastProwl wrote:

godzillabot wrote:You can attach energon stars to Armada Predacon's legs

wich means Transmetal megatron to you n00bs out there!

nope, Predacon is a slight remold. He has Minicon ports and larger leg details (or smaller, as I don't own the original mold)

Just Mini-Con ports, the rest is the same.

godzillabot wrote:

BeastProwl wrote:

godzillabot wrote:You can attach energon stars to Armada Predacon's legs

wich means Transmetal megatron to you n00bs out there!

nope, Predacon is a slight remold. He has Minicon ports and larger leg details (or smaller, as I don't own the original mold)

Ports and paint are the only differences I see

I Made leader screamer a mechtech mode, but the pic is crap due to poor lighting.