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Thu May 04, 2017 5:35 am

I wish Hasbro would quit putting out so many repaints because I'll only get the first one and not bother with any of the others. With the exception of the Super Gobots, they never did repaints with the standard size Gobots.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

News Credits: 226 · Thu May 04, 2017 5:46 am

Repaints have been around since the first year of Transformers. So after 30+ years, you might wanna let go of it.

Thu May 04, 2017 6:24 am

I know they have and never particularly liked it. G1 examples were Bumblebee and Cliffjumper and the Decepticon jets, Soundwave's cassette buddies, the two Autobot vans, and Topspin and Twin Twist.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

Thu May 04, 2017 6:30 am

Another example I didn't mention was that Ultra Magnus was a repaint of Optimus Prime.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

News Credits: 226 · Thu May 04, 2017 6:37 am

Jason5billion wrote:Topspin and Twin Twist.

Thu May 04, 2017 7:33 am

Dont Forget About The Unicron Trilogy Of Megatron And Galvatron
and RID 2001 Megatron And Galvatron
And RID 2015 show keeps reusing older models and repainting them
its going too far
and combiner wars...
and abit of titans return

News Credits: 4880 · Thu May 04, 2017 1:14 pm

Just so you know, Topspin and Twintwist werent repaints.

And just so you know, hasbro has reversed their techniques now. Instead of having the repaints come out after, they release them before. Like Titans Return Astrotrain, Blitzwing and Octane. Those guys are coming out (or came out) after their repaint. So just buying the first one doesnt mean you'd be getting the best version.

Also, you would be surprised, but Quake and Krok are very good figures even if they are just repaints.

And yes, Hasbro has been doing repaints since the begining and never stopped. I dont think they are bad or ruin things since Hasbro still gives us the same amount of new molds, the repaints just add to the amount of toys they are releasing. And it lets me choose which deco I like better on a mold if I only want to own one.

News Credits: 65 · Thu May 04, 2017 2:10 pm

Burn wrote:
Jason5billion wrote:Topspin and Twin Twist.

Jason5billion wrote:G1 examples were Bumblebee and Cliffjumper...

I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another. They are distinct molds. Although both are superdeformed penny racer styled cars, Bumblebee is a Volkswagen Beetle, Cliffjumper is a Porsche 924 Turbo. In the first year of release, both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper came in red and yellow versions to pad out the line, but regardless of color, each was still named either Bumblebee or Cliffjumper based on the actual car model represented.

News Credits: 4880 · Thu May 04, 2017 2:31 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:They are distinct molds.

We would call them shared engineering today :lol:

You know what I find funny? These are amazing examples of what is going on in Combiner Wars/Titans Return where you have molds that share little to no pieces with oneanother but that have major similarities like Scourge/HighBrow. we keep looking for what to call them as if its a new technique but Takara's been doing stuff like that since day one.

News Credits: 293 · Thu May 04, 2017 2:39 pm

Also, let's not forget that the things people hate (repaints, retools, Bayformers) are what keep the line going; funding-wise. Get rid of them, and we'd get nothing. Now THAT would be something to complain about.

News Credits: 226 · Thu May 04, 2017 3:14 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there. :-P

Thu May 04, 2017 3:29 pm

shajaki wrote:Also, let's not forget that the things people hate (repaints, retools, Bayformers) are what keep the line going; funding-wise. Get rid of them, and we'd get nothing. Now THAT would be something to complain about.

Nothing is close to what we get anyway, with Hasbro's distribution sucking the way it does.

Burn wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there.

And yellow Cliffjumper

News Credits: 226 · Thu May 04, 2017 3:34 pm

Optimum Supreme wrote:
Burn wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there.

And yellow Cliffjumper

Exactly! Those little mini-bots have so many damn variants!

News Credits: 65 · Thu May 04, 2017 3:37 pm

Burn wrote:
Optimum Supreme wrote:
Burn wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there.

And yellow Cliffjumper

Exactly! Those little mini-bots have so many damn variants!

I did mention both Red Bumblebee and Yellow Cliffjumper in my initial reply, you know. Just sayin'.

News Credits: 226 · Thu May 04, 2017 3:52 pm

Dude, it's morning here and I'm doing the work of news crew because they won't. Cut me some slack. :-P

News Credits: 4880 · Thu May 04, 2017 4:17 pm

Burn wrote:Dude, it's morning here and I'm doing the work of news crew because they won't. Cut me some slack.

Hey, I newsed all the cool new megatron pics

Thu May 04, 2017 4:25 pm

The examples of repaints I listed were strictly G1 repaints because I lost track of all the Transformer lines a long time ago. I bought a Decepticon Rumble, and whether the Autobot repaint is considered better by someone is their opinion because I'm not getting the repaint.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

News Credits: 42 · Thu May 04, 2017 4:30 pm

Anyone else wonder if this is just Stu trolling the boards?

News Credits: 226 · Thu May 04, 2017 4:40 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Anyone else wonder if this is just Stu trolling the boards?

Trust me, this one is new.

Burn knows ... Burn. Knows.

:-P

News Credits: 42 · Thu May 04, 2017 10:11 pm

Burn wrote:Burn knows ... Burn. Knows.

Thu May 11, 2017 4:53 am

Well if you've bought one Transformer that has repaints or different mold that do the same, you've bought all the repaints or slightly different ones like Cliffjumper.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

News Credits: 11 · Thu May 11, 2017 6:14 am

Jason5billion wrote:I wish Hasbro would quit putting out so many repaints because I'll only get the first one and not bother with any of the others. With the exception of the Super Gobots, they never did repaints with the standard size Gobots.

I seem to have a Gobot Seaplane in white and another in bronze/brown.

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Some repaints are "acceptable" if they meet the criteria of the source material.

So for example Blackout in Transformers 2007
& Grindor in Transformers Revenge of The Fallen

Just randomly slapping bonkers colour schemes on a Bumblebee does get a little tedious though.

But again it makes sense with the Legion Class Prime Bumblebee's one represents the earlier Yellow colours for bee and the other for the Beast Hunters Bee (as he is on the show) [Same with Smokescreen]

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I think people appreciate the sets of characters who share moulds when it meets the source material be that "Seeker trios" or 'Twins'
- but it's also interesting when there are similar but different ways of associating a couple of characters like with Sunstreaker and Sideswipe or Twin Twist & Topspin.

In those instances them being similar or even repaints is sort of the point - just as it is that the Power Rangers look similar in most versions bar some minor details.

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Not to mention sometimes a repaint has engineering improvements or more accurate colours.

Also some people like to have more than one version of a mould - it allows for the toys to be displayed in both modes - or can save the bother of Transforming something like ROTF Optimus toys.

Thu May 11, 2017 6:23 am

Did they have different names? Remember that Cy-Kill came in different colors.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

News Credits: 11 · Thu May 11, 2017 6:34 am

I only got the Brown one in a bundle of toys at a Carboot sale a couple of weeks ago It looks like the Brown one is the Gobot http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Waterwalk/waterwalk.htm and the white one is This one which is a Robo Machine. (so English not America - so it looks like the UK got both colours of Seaplane both Japanese Bandia kinda and American Tonka kind) :

Oh and I really like Cykill's Black & green repaint.

News Credits: 1 · Sun May 14, 2017 8:47 pm

william-james88 wrote:
And yes, Hasbro has been doing repaints since the begining and never stopped. I dont think they are bad or ruin things since Hasbro still gives us the same amount of new molds, the repaints just add to the amount of toys they are releasing. And it lets me choose which deco I like better on a mold if I only want to own one.

Exactly.

I cancelled my preorder of TR Sixshot when I saw the Chaos on Velocitron boxset, with the Quickswitch redeco.

And I admit I'm refraining to get a SkyShadow now, wondering if there wouldn't be another redeco/retool before the end of the line (besides Overlord).