Too many repaints

Feel free to discuss anything about any of the thousands of Transformer toys here. Anything from Generation 1 all the way to the soon to be released, the never to be released or the hope to be released is fair game! Want to show off your stuff? Please post your's and see others in the Transformers Collections Forum.

Too many repaints

Postby Jason5billion » Thu May 04, 2017 4:35 am

Motto: "God bless,JasonScottIrelan"
Weapon: Cyclone Cannon
I wish Hasbro would quit putting out so many repaints because I'll only get the first one and not bother with any of the others. With the exception of the Super Gobots, they never did repaints with the standard size Gobots.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Image
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Jason5billion
Banned
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Location: Orange City, Florida
Buy from Jason5billion on eBay
Alt Mode: Astarshipthatcancloakgowarp5billionVehiconstarTbirdStingrayXKEmore
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: ???
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Burn » Thu May 04, 2017 4:46 am

Repaints have been around since the first year of Transformers. So after 30+ years, you might wanna let go of it.
Image
"Three blokes doing random crap and taking the mickey out of anyone and everyone"

carytheone wrote:It's kangaroo pinching time :-x
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 26518
News Credits: 81
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:37 am

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Jason5billion » Thu May 04, 2017 5:24 am

Motto: "God bless,JasonScottIrelan"
Weapon: Cyclone Cannon
I know they have and never particularly liked it. G1 examples were Bumblebee and Cliffjumper and the Decepticon jets, Soundwave's cassette buddies, the two Autobot vans, and Topspin and Twin Twist.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Image
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Jason5billion
Banned
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Location: Orange City, Florida
Buy from Jason5billion on eBay
Alt Mode: Astarshipthatcancloakgowarp5billionVehiconstarTbirdStingrayXKEmore
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: ???
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Jason5billion » Thu May 04, 2017 5:30 am

Motto: "God bless,JasonScottIrelan"
Weapon: Cyclone Cannon
Another example I didn't mention was that Ultra Magnus was a repaint of Optimus Prime.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Image
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Jason5billion
Banned
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Location: Orange City, Florida
Buy from Jason5billion on eBay
Alt Mode: Astarshipthatcancloakgowarp5billionVehiconstarTbirdStingrayXKEmore
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: ???
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Burn » Thu May 04, 2017 5:37 am

Jason5billion wrote:Topspin and Twin Twist.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Image
"Three blokes doing random crap and taking the mickey out of anyone and everyone"

carytheone wrote:It's kangaroo pinching time :-x
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 26518
News Credits: 81
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:37 am

Re: Too many repaints

Postby astrotankerpixel » Thu May 04, 2017 6:33 am

Dont Forget About The Unicron Trilogy Of Megatron And Galvatron
and RID 2001 Megatron And Galvatron
And RID 2015 show keeps reusing older models and repainting them
its going too far
and combiner wars...
and abit of titans return
astrotankerpixel
Mini-Con
Posts: 8
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:19 am
Watch astrotankerpixel on YouTube

Re: Too many repaints

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 04, 2017 12:14 pm

Just so you know, Topspin and Twintwist werent repaints.

And just so you know, hasbro has reversed their techniques now. Instead of having the repaints come out after, they release them before. Like Titans Return Astrotrain, Blitzwing and Octane. Those guys are coming out (or came out) after their repaint. So just buying the first one doesnt mean you'd be getting the best version.

Also, you would be surprised, but Quake and Krok are very good figures even if they are just repaints.

And yes, Hasbro has been doing repaints since the begining and never stopped. I dont think they are bad or ruin things since Hasbro still gives us the same amount of new molds, the repaints just add to the amount of toys they are releasing. And it lets me choose which deco I like better on a mold if I only want to own one.
If you have any news, rumours, or hot new sightings to report which you feel should be front paged,
please contact us using this form.

Image
User avatar
william-james88
News Staff
Posts: 22435
News Credits: 1904
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:46 am
Buy from william-james88 on eBay

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu May 04, 2017 1:10 pm

Motto: ""A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller."
-Edward Hoagland"
Weapon: Retractable Mecha-Fangs
Burn wrote:
Jason5billion wrote:Topspin and Twin Twist.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Jason5billion wrote:G1 examples were Bumblebee and Cliffjumper...


I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another. They are distinct molds. Although both are superdeformed penny racer styled cars, Bumblebee is a Volkswagen Beetle, Cliffjumper is a Porsche 924 Turbo. In the first year of release, both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper came in red and yellow versions to pad out the line, but regardless of color, each was still named either Bumblebee or Cliffjumper based on the actual car model represented.
Wolfman Jake - Spendin' the day howlin' away.
User avatar
Wolfman Jake
Gestalt
Posts: 2706
News Credits: 4
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:22 am
Location: Maplewood, MN
Alt Mode: Wolf
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 8
Rank: 5
Courage: 9
Firepower: 2
Skill: 8

Re: Too many repaints

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:31 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:They are distinct molds.


We would call them shared engineering today :lol: You know what I find funny? These are amazing examples of what is going on in Combiner Wars/Titans Return where you have molds that share little to no pieces with oneanother but that have major similarities like Scourge/HighBrow. we keep looking for what to call them as if its a new technique but Takara's been doing stuff like that since day one.
If you have any news, rumours, or hot new sightings to report which you feel should be front paged,
please contact us using this form.

Image
User avatar
william-james88
News Staff
Posts: 22435
News Credits: 1904
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:46 am
Buy from william-james88 on eBay

Re: Too many repaints

Postby shajaki » Thu May 04, 2017 1:39 pm

Motto: "A man who wants nothing is invincible."
Also, let's not forget that the things people hate (repaints, retools, Bayformers) are what keep the line going; funding-wise. Get rid of them, and we'd get nothing. Now THAT would be something to complain about.
User avatar
shajaki
Matrix Keeper
Posts: 9827
News Credits: 226
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:56 pm
Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
Buy from shajaki on eBay

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Burn » Thu May 04, 2017 2:14 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there. :-P
Image
"Three blokes doing random crap and taking the mickey out of anyone and everyone"

carytheone wrote:It's kangaroo pinching time :-x
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 26518
News Credits: 81
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:37 am

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Optimum Supreme » Thu May 04, 2017 2:29 pm

Motto: "That's [not out yet/never came out] in my area."
Weapon: Nuclear Charged Fusion Cannon
shajaki wrote:Also, let's not forget that the things people hate (repaints, retools, Bayformers) are what keep the line going; funding-wise. Get rid of them, and we'd get nothing. Now THAT would be something to complain about.


Nothing is close to what we get anyway, with Hasbro's distribution sucking the way it does.

Burn wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there. :-P


And yellow Cliffjumper
User avatar
Optimum Supreme
Godmaster
Posts: 1719
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:27 pm
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: ???
Speed: 2
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: 7
Firepower: Infinity
Skill: 4

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Burn » Thu May 04, 2017 2:34 pm

Optimum Supreme wrote:
Burn wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there. :-P


And yellow Cliffjumper

Exactly! Those little mini-bots have so many damn variants!
Image
"Three blokes doing random crap and taking the mickey out of anyone and everyone"

carytheone wrote:It's kangaroo pinching time :-x
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 26518
News Credits: 81
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:37 am

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu May 04, 2017 2:37 pm

Motto: ""A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller."
-Edward Hoagland"
Weapon: Retractable Mecha-Fangs
Burn wrote:
Optimum Supreme wrote:
Burn wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm surprised you let this one go, Burn. G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper are not repaints of one another.

I let that one slide because if people aren't well versed, they COULD easily be confused.

Plus there is that red Bumblebee out there. :-P


And yellow Cliffjumper

Exactly! Those little mini-bots have so many damn variants!


I did mention both Red Bumblebee and Yellow Cliffjumper in my initial reply, you know. Just sayin'. ;)
Wolfman Jake - Spendin' the day howlin' away.
User avatar
Wolfman Jake
Gestalt
Posts: 2706
News Credits: 4
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:22 am
Location: Maplewood, MN
Alt Mode: Wolf
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 8
Rank: 5
Courage: 9
Firepower: 2
Skill: 8

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Burn » Thu May 04, 2017 2:52 pm

Dude, it's morning here and I'm doing the work of news crew because they won't. Cut me some slack. :-P
Image
"Three blokes doing random crap and taking the mickey out of anyone and everyone"

carytheone wrote:It's kangaroo pinching time :-x
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 26518
News Credits: 81
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:37 am

Re: Too many repaints

Postby william-james88 » Thu May 04, 2017 3:17 pm

Burn wrote:Dude, it's morning here and I'm doing the work of news crew because they won't. Cut me some slack. :-P

Hey, I newsed all the cool new megatron pics
If you have any news, rumours, or hot new sightings to report which you feel should be front paged,
please contact us using this form.

Image
User avatar
william-james88
News Staff
Posts: 22435
News Credits: 1904
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:46 am
Buy from william-james88 on eBay

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Jason5billion » Thu May 04, 2017 3:25 pm

Motto: "God bless,JasonScottIrelan"
Weapon: Cyclone Cannon
The examples of repaints I listed were strictly G1 repaints because I lost track of all the Transformer lines a long time ago. I bought a Decepticon Rumble, and whether the Autobot repaint is considered better by someone is their opinion because I'm not getting the repaint.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Image
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Jason5billion
Banned
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Location: Orange City, Florida
Buy from Jason5billion on eBay
Alt Mode: Astarshipthatcancloakgowarp5billionVehiconstarTbirdStingrayXKEmore
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: ???
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Too many repaints

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu May 04, 2017 3:30 pm

Anyone else wonder if this is just Stu trolling the boards?
TF-fan kev777
Gestalt Team Leader
Posts: 960
News Credits: 4
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:48 pm
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 8
Endurance: 10
Rank: 6
Courage: 9
Firepower: 10
Skill: 7

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Burn » Thu May 04, 2017 3:40 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Anyone else wonder if this is just Stu trolling the boards?

Trust me, this one is new.

Image

Burn knows ... Burn. Knows.

:-P
Image
"Three blokes doing random crap and taking the mickey out of anyone and everyone"

carytheone wrote:It's kangaroo pinching time :-x
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 26518
News Credits: 81
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:37 am

Re: Too many repaints

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu May 04, 2017 9:11 pm

Burn wrote:Burn knows ... Burn. Knows.

:-P


;)^
TF-fan kev777
Gestalt Team Leader
Posts: 960
News Credits: 4
Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 5:48 pm
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 8
Endurance: 10
Rank: 6
Courage: 9
Firepower: 10
Skill: 7

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Jason5billion » Thu May 11, 2017 3:53 am

Motto: "God bless,JasonScottIrelan"
Weapon: Cyclone Cannon
Well if you've bought one Transformer that has repaints or different mold that do the same, you've bought all the repaints or slightly different ones like Cliffjumper.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Image
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Jason5billion
Banned
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Location: Orange City, Florida
Buy from Jason5billion on eBay
Alt Mode: Astarshipthatcancloakgowarp5billionVehiconstarTbirdStingrayXKEmore
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: ???
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Too many repaints

Postby RAR » Thu May 11, 2017 5:14 am

Jason5billion wrote:I wish Hasbro would quit putting out so many repaints because I'll only get the first one and not bother with any of the others. With the exception of the Super Gobots, they never did repaints with the standard size Gobots.


I seem to have a Gobot Seaplane in white and another in bronze/brown.

-----

Some repaints are "acceptable" if they meet the criteria of the source material.

So for example Blackout in Transformers 2007
& Grindor in Transformers Revenge of The Fallen

Just randomly slapping bonkers colour schemes on a Bumblebee does get a little tedious though.

But again it makes sense with the Legion Class Prime Bumblebee's one represents the earlier Yellow colours for bee and the other for the Beast Hunters Bee (as he is on the show) [Same with Smokescreen]

-----

I think people appreciate the sets of characters who share moulds when it meets the source material be that "Seeker trios" or 'Twins'
- but it's also interesting when there are similar but different ways of associating a couple of characters like with Sunstreaker and Sideswipe or Twin Twist & Topspin.

In those instances them being similar or even repaints is sort of the point - just as it is that the Power Rangers look similar in most versions bar some minor details.

-----

Not to mention sometimes a repaint has engineering improvements or more accurate colours.

Also some people like to have more than one version of a mould - it allows for the toys to be displayed in both modes - or can save the bother of Transforming something like ROTF Optimus toys.
Last edited by RAR on Thu May 11, 2017 5:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
RAR
Gestalt
Posts: 2322
News Credits: 11
Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:01 pm

Re: Too many repaints

Postby Jason5billion » Thu May 11, 2017 5:23 am

Motto: "God bless,JasonScottIrelan"
Weapon: Cyclone Cannon
Did they have different names? Remember that Cy-Kill came in different colors.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Image
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Jason5billion
Banned
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 pm
Location: Orange City, Florida
Buy from Jason5billion on eBay
Alt Mode: Astarshipthatcancloakgowarp5billionVehiconstarTbirdStingrayXKEmore
Strength: 10+
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: ???
Endurance: 10+
Rank: N/A
Courage: N/A
Firepower: N/A
Skill: N/A

Re: Too many repaints

Postby RAR » Thu May 11, 2017 5:34 am

I only got the Brown one in a bundle of toys at a Carboot sale a couple of weeks ago It looks like the Brown one is the Gobot http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Waterwalk/waterwalk.htm and the white one is This one which is a Robo Machine. (so English not America - so it looks like the UK got both colours of Seaplane both Japanese Bandia kinda and American Tonka kind) :

Image

Oh and I really like Cykill's Black & green repaint.
User avatar
RAR
Gestalt
Posts: 2322
News Credits: 11
Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:01 pm

Re: Too many repaints

Postby ExciKaiser » Sun May 14, 2017 7:47 pm

william-james88 wrote:
And yes, Hasbro has been doing repaints since the begining and never stopped. I dont think they are bad or ruin things since Hasbro still gives us the same amount of new molds, the repaints just add to the amount of toys they are releasing. And it lets me choose which deco I like better on a mold if I only want to own one.


Exactly.

I cancelled my preorder of TR Sixshot when I saw the Chaos on Velocitron boxset, with the Quickswitch redeco.

And I admit I'm refraining to get a SkyShadow now, wondering if there wouldn't be another redeco/retool before the end of the line (besides Overlord).
Not english-native speaker. Thank you for being cool on my typos.
My Collection - Transformers Go Combiner Teams onboard !
Image
Looking for the claw-shield-gun which comes with Magna convoy.
User avatar
ExciKaiser
Combiner
Posts: 472
News Credits: 1
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:12 pm
Location: France
Buy from ExciKaiser on eBay

Next

Return to Transformers Toys Discussion

Transformers products from AMAZON

Featured Products

Buy "Transformers Generations Exclusive Cyber Battalion Class Shockwave Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Authentics Starscream" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Authentics Megatron" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Attacker 15 Bania Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Titans Return Grotusque and Scorponok Deluxe Action Figure Exclusive Set" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 08 Leader Class Movie 1 Decepticon Blackout" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Titan Class Trypticon" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 07 Leader Class Movie 4 Grimlock" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Protectobot Rook Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Platinum Edition "Year of the Goat" Exclusive Masterpiece Soundwave by Hasbro" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Autobot Infinitus and Sentinel Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 13 Voyager Class Movie 2 Megatron" on AMAZON
Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #207 - Through The Fargate
Twincast / Podcast #207:
"Through The Fargate"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Sunday, September 9th, 2018
Transformers products from EBAY

Items Ending Soon

Buy "Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors UW06 Grand Galvatron Japan New F/S" on EBAY
Buy "Transformers Prime WHEELJACK Complete Deluxe Rid Hasbro Figure" on EBAY
Buy "02472 Transformers Adventure TAV 56 Nemesis Prime" on EBAY
Buy "02491 Transformers Legends LG 14 Ultra Magnus" on EBAY
Buy "02484 Transformers Galaxy Force GC-03 vector prime" on EBAY
Buy "01730 akara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors UW06 Grand Galvatron JAPAN" on EBAY
Buy "Transformers Prime Bumblebee Complete Deluxe Rid Hasbro Figure" on EBAY
Buy "1985 Hasbro Transformers Generation1 "INFERNO"  Vintage" on EBAY