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News Credits: 1 · Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:02 pm

I like that old Windblade mold too and the Slipstream version of it even more. Yeah, the plane mode has this huge gap. It doesn't bother me.

News Credits: 32 · Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:49 pm

Heck, yeah! Prime Arcee had some great molds. I think my favourite version that I own is the Club Transmutate. But I hope to get Flame War one day if I can ever find her for a not insane price. I like that you can give her a movie Arcee/Chromia/Elita-1/Gizmoduck style wheel-legged fan mode. Which I kind of wish they would have taken advantage of that and did a gender-bent BM Thrust repaint of her.

News Credits: 20 · Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:35 pm

Nice list! Though I do agree with many previous posters, I think PRID Arcee deserves a spot on the list, probably replacing MP Blackarachnia.

News Credits: 4877 · Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:33 am

Tuned Agent wrote:Nice list! Though I do agree with many previous posters, I think PRID Arcee deserves a spot on the list, probably replacing MP Blackarachnia.

That's pretty high praise! I like it though, it means you all really value the transforming and alt mode aspect.

I think why it doesnt resonate as much with me personally is because I actually preffer the first edition toy, though just by a bit. But that alone made it feel a tad less unique. Also, I experienced her amidst the rest of the Prime line and by comparison she was just average. She was not a contender on my list for best Prime toys and she only came up once in all the comments.

But good news, I have yet to do a top 5 Arcee list

Glad TMII Airrazor was mentioned as that was on my shortlist. Another one that hasnt been mentioned yet is Beast Machines Night Viper. I LOVE that toy, but she already got the spotlight a few times on my lists.

Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:08 am

Huh. Beast Machine's toyline making it to number one of a top ten. You don't see this every day.

News Credits: 101 · Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:29 am

Skritz wrote:Huh. Beast Machine's toyline making it to number one of a top ten. You don't see this every day.

It's a top FIVE. That's even more incredible.

News Credits: 19 · Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:46 am

I kinda like mp Roadrage, for a simple color change and headswap it comes across as feminine. It could just be considered tracks in drag tho...maybe one for the top five male to female transformers along with strongarm, slipstream and clobber

News Credits: 1 · Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:52 am

Strongarm keeps getting mentioned, but I just can't get past that huge backpack.

News Credits: 101 · Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:04 am

blackeyedprime wrote:I kinda like mp Roadrage, for a simple color change and headswap it comes across as feminine. It could just be considered tracks in drag tho...maybe one for the top five male to female transformers along with strongarm, slipstream and clobber

Well, nothing can beat Binaltech Arcee for a "drag queen formers". :lol:

I have "her" in my Arcee display and I love it.

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News Credits: 1646 · Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:04 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Strongarm keeps getting mentioned, but I just can't get past that huge backpack.

They definitely could have done more with her wings, an extra swivel or a few hinges and they could be smaller or better positioned. But she's still a fun toy for sure

Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:45 pm

That Generations Arcee was about as good of a figure as we'll ever get of her. ;)^

News Credits: 20 · Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:00 am

william-james88 wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:Nice list! Though I do agree with many previous posters, I think PRID Arcee deserves a spot on the list, probably replacing MP Blackarachnia.

That's pretty high praise! I like it though, it means you all really value the transforming and alt mode aspect.

I think why it doesnt resonate as much with me personally is because I actually preffer the first edition toy, though just by a bit. But that alone made it feel a tad less unique. Also, I experienced her amidst the rest of the Prime line and by comparison she was just average. She was not a contender on my list for best Prime toys and she only came up once in all the comments.

But good news, I have yet to do a top 5 Arcee list

Glad TMII Airrazor was mentioned as that was on my shortlist. Another one that hasnt been mentioned yet is Beast Machines Night Viper. I LOVE that toy, but she already got the spotlight a few times on my lists.

Why thank you! Full disclosure, I don't own either of those figures, my knowledge of them just comes from pictures, videos and word-of mouth. And IMO, PRID Arcee is a bit more well-rounded as a figure than MP Blackarachnia (though Blackarachnia definitely wins in robot mode).

And I'll definitely be looking forward to that Arcee list (presumably towards the end of the year). ;)^

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:06 pm

Tuned Agent wrote:
And I'll definitely be looking forward to that Arcee list (presumably towards the end of the year).

Yes, for sure, that will make it more definitive.

Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:14 pm

It's a good list, but I've got my own.

5. Beast Machines Blackarachnia-might be the best Maximal toy from BM.

4. RID 2015 Strongarm-pretty good overall, backpack drags it down a little.

3. TF:A Arcee-Overall a pretty good mold. Might be one of the best Arcee molds made.

2. Masterpiece Blackarachnia-Looks great, fun to play with. They did the best job they could with the alternate mode, IMHO, and it doesn't even look all that bad.

1. TF:P Arcee, First Edition. Just fantastic overall.

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:50 am

Strongarm is horrible,all of her problem come from a vehicle too big :There is the wings,the boots,the epaulette and the gloves(The japanese version has them better).Only a good head in a serie where they are often minuscules.No way she beat any PRIME Arcee you prefer(The vehicon is ugly by the way,number 1 of my %#@).Characters like Bulkhead are better with a similar one,i like the BH,the feet are movable if you don't know.

News Credits: 101 · Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:12 pm

Yeah, for me Strongarm could have been easily be replaced by a Prime Arcee. However, I perfectly agree with Mega Empress. Some Square Girls are better than others.

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:06 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Yeah, for me Strongarm could have been easily be replaced by a Prime Arcee. However, I perfectly agree with Mega Empress. Some Square Girls are better than others.

Strongarm isn't on the list.

News Credits: 101 · Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:16 pm

william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Yeah, for me Strongarm could have been easily be replaced by a Prime Arcee. However, I perfectly agree with Mega Empress. Some Square Girls are better than others.

Strongarm isn't on the list.

Well, she is in "honorable mention" so she might as well be.

Prime Arcee was not even in the Honorable mention.

So that mean that Prime Arcee.....

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:04 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Yeah, for me Strongarm could have been easily be replaced by a Prime Arcee. However, I perfectly agree with Mega Empress. Some Square Girls are better than others.

Strongarm isn't on the list.

Well, she is in "honorable mention" so she might as well be.

Prime Arcee was not even in the Honorable mention.

So that mean that Prime Arcee.....

Not at all. I use honourable mentions for toys that wouldnt be in the list, ever, but that I still want to mention since they might not be mentioned otherwise. Arguing over who should be an honourable mention is pointless since its still agreeing that they didnt make the cut anyway.

News Credits: 12 · Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:31 am

Strongarm is IMO a great design (lack of a nose aside) but has yet to get a definitive toy, which IMO is a bit of a shame. The honourable mention on this list does look fun though.

Not exactly a candidate for the best toy as she's just a redeco of G1 Nightbeat, but I'd like to give a shoutout to G1 Minerva for being IIRC the first ever female Transformer toy (not counting retroactive genderswaps like Freezon). I really hope we get a new Minerva that isn't just a head at some point.

I'm also mildly mad there still isn't a good figure of Strika; the OG is kinda small, the BotCon exclusive is not only an exclusive but also still a bit puny, and there's precisely one 3P option, which good as it is has become unobtainable.

News Credits: 6 · Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:35 am

Unless IDW 2.0 finds some use for the BM Vehicons, I doubt a Strika will appear again, any time soon.

News Credits: 101 · Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:01 am

Black Hat wrote:Strongarm is IMO a great design (lack of a nose aside) but has yet to get a definitive toy, which IMO is a bit of a shame. The honourable mention on this list does look fun though.

Not exactly a candidate for the best toy as she's just a redeco of G1 Nightbeat, but I'd like to give a shoutout to G1 Minerva for being IIRC the first ever female Transformer toy (not counting retroactive genderswaps like Freezon). I really hope we get a new Minerva that isn't just a head at some point.

I'm also mildly mad there still isn't a good figure of Strika; the OG is kinda small, the BotCon exclusive is not only an exclusive but also still a bit puny, and there's precisely one 3P option, which good as it is has become unobtainable.

RID Strongarm definitely deserve a "MP" toy.

As for Minerva/Minelba, I gave a 3P version on preorder. Still waiting for an official one, of course. I know I'll never have G1 Minelba because of the absurd price, but at least I got my G1 Nightbeat. So, close enough I guess.

News Credits: 1646 · Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:52 pm

I too wish Strika could get a new toy. She seems to be a pretty popular pick in recent years, with showing up in IDW2005 and cyberverse. So it's not like it would be out of the blue for her to get a new toy.

I also want a Nightbeat toy so we can get a Minerva out of it. I'd like to see the Japanese headmasters all done like that

News Credits: 101 · Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:24 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I too wish Strika could get a new toy. She seems to be a pretty popular pick in recent years, with showing up in IDW2005 and cyberverse. So it's not like it would be out of the blue for her to get a new toy.

I also want a Nightbeat toy so we can get a Minerva out of it. I'd like to see the Japanese headmasters all done like that

I'm all for a new Nightbeat, but Minelba should be her own mold. Because no male transformers can be repainted with these curves:

Even then, there's the "Arcee" problem.

3P is making one but she have an obvious giant backpack. Make me think that with some severe remolding, a MP Minerva could be done using the MP Arcee frame. Same thing with a Generations one using ER Arcee.

News Credits: 12 · Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:27 pm

Hot take: I'd rather have a svelte, feminine Nightbeat that can be rounded off a bit into a perfect Minerva than a more conventional Nightbeat that gets a minimum-effort retool into a butch and blocky Minerva. Heck, seeing as Nightbeat got released as "2P colours" Minerva in Japan and...hasn't really done much, it wouldn't be the greatest tragedy.