The Energon Pub

[Wolfman Jake]

All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

Honestly, I'm just thrilled that Hasbro did this one in the correct colors. They followed Takara's lead on the paint mask and tones almost exactly for a fantastic G1-cartoon accurate look. The ONLY difference seems to be Hasbro's insistence on the toy-accurate blue-painted nosecone, but that hides away nicely in robot mode anyway. They didn't even bother with the flared wing stripes or silly "decals" that detract a bit from their MP Thundercracker release a few years ago. I can skip the coronation gear if it means I can have the toy at almost 60% off the price of Takara's version through online retailers.

[shajaki]

All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

What did Sunny cost CAD? $80? $90? Starscream is the real McCoy, and the alternative (yes with more accessories) IF you can find him will cost $200+ USD. So yeah, anyone who needs an MP Screamer would be daft to pass on him.

[william-james88]

All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

What did Sunny cost CAD? $80? $90? Starscream is the real McCoy, and the alternative (yes with more accessories) IF you can find him will cost $200+ USD. So yeah, anyone who needs an MP Screamer would be daft to pass on him.

Question for you, is an MP screamer needed as much as it used to be? We had the original MP 03 and then Hasbro released theirs and people either bought him then or double dipped for the accurate deco. Then when the retooling of the mold came to remove that thigh kibble, Takara released theirs for 200$ so (like last time) people either got him then or double/triple dipped for more accurate deco and more accurate molding (though people still have their problems with it, I can attest to that). And now while we are getting the Hasbro version of that retooled mold in starscream deco finally, we are also getting another starscream in the same G1 deco (Hasbro was very precise about the white they used) in the same scale and at half the price (lower if you just wait for a discount). So I am wondering if it's a sign that things are evolving and that the need for this mold as starscream isn't really there.

Of course the main argument people always give is : but this is MP starscream. But are we over that mold? Am I over that mold? At that price? It's what I am currently wondering. I had an MP Starscream (MP 03 G) and it broke the second day I bought him so I do need a Starscream in this scale. One thing for sure, I am either gettingn CW Leader Starscream (who actually comes with a crown) OR Hasbro MP Starscream, not both.

[shajaki]

Question for you, is an MP screamer needed as much as it used to be?

I had this same discussion with X over "why would anyone want a FT Quakewave nowadays?".

We had the original MP 03 and then Hasbro released theirs and people either bought him then or double dipped for the accurate deco.

Thigh thingies, people hated it. Accurate deco helped, but people still clamored over MP11.

Then when the retooling of the mold came to remove that thigh kibble, Takara released theirs for 200$ so (like last time) people either got him then or double/triple dipped for more accurate deco and more accurate molding (though people still have their problems with it, I can attest to that).

See, not everyone did. I sure didn't, likewise with MP10. I wasn't that hard into TF's back then and I had MP01 and MP03 (and the accurate repaint) and figured I didn't need it. My first MP11 was Sunstorm, and after seeing how different the mold was I was in for everything (flaws and all). I bought Hasbro's MP10 from the shelf, and MP11 from eBay at a markup.

And now while we are getting the Hasbro version of that retooled mold in starscream deco finally, we are also getting another starscream in the same G1 deco (Hasbro was very precise about the white they used) in the same scale and at half the price (lower if you just wait for a discount). So I am wondering if it's a sign that things are evolving and that the need for this mold as starscream isn't really there.

If people want to put Leaderscream in their MP display, more power to them. But they're worlds apart to me.

Of course the main argument people always give is : but this is MP starscream. But are we over that mold? Am I over that mold?

I don't get the "being over" the mold. This isn't about being over the mold to me. Its the quintessential version of the seeker, and the most popular one of them all. And I doubt that EVERYONE bought TT's MP11 when it was out the first time.

At that price?

This is the complaint I don't get. If you want Starscream, in his greatest plastic representation, you will never get one at a better price. If you just don't want him, or want Leadersream instead, that's fine. But Hasbro's MP11 is amazing for what it is.

[william-james88]

At that price?

This is the complaint I don't get. If you want Starscream, in his greatest plastic representation, you will never get one at a better price. If you just don't want him, or want Leadersream instead, that's fine. But Hasbro's MP11 is amazing for what it is.

Sounds good. And thanks for replying. It helps me see if it is worth getting it. I was a bit torn on it and your reply helped greatly!

[galvatron00]

Is there a reason no one has posted an image of the interior box art to MP Bluestreak from TRU?! Just got mine today, super excited, and then I notice the line drawings in the box..

Bumblebee, Megatron, Optimus, Unicron?!

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[galvatron00]

To jump in with you Shaj and WJ, I'm going to try to get the new release of Starscream from TRU when it's available. I have the Walmart MP release of Starscream and Skywarp, and those leg panels (moved them to the lower leg so he will actually stand) drive me nuts. I received TRU MP Thundercracker as a gift when he came out and the improvements make the figure that much better. I think I'll swap Walmart Starscream's head to the TRU release, gotta have that smirk

[william-james88]

Is there a reason no one has posted an image of the interior box art to MP Bluestreak from TRU?! Just got mine today, super excited, and then I notice the line drawings in the box..

Bumblebee, Megatron, Optimus, Unicron?!

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Hasbro has been using those since last year and it was found that they were more blueprints of their G1 selves and not indicative of any upcoming MP release. In the end, they are just there to look good.

[galvatron00]

Hasbro has been using those since last year and it was found that they were more blueprints of their G1 selves and not indicative of any upcoming MP release. In the end, they are just there to look good.

Booooooooooo. Didn't notice them in Prowls box..

[william-james88]

Hasbro has been using those since last year and it was found that they were more blueprints of their G1 selves and not indicative of any upcoming MP release. In the end, they are just there to look good.

Booooooooooo. Didn't notice them in Prowls box..

Na, it was in the backdrop of instructions.

Here's an example:



Sn here is the link to that previous rumour which has since been debunked:http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rumour-potential-transformers-masterpiece-megatron-and-cliffjumper-designs/31857/

[Wolfman Jake]

So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

[william-james88]

So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

I am assuming they are the same.

[galvatron00]

So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

I am assuming they are the same.

All I can do is compare mine to pictures and I can't see a difference other than some stamping on the inside of his left foot (rear section of the car). It feels great in hand, I'm really happy to have Prowl and Bluestreak, I just need more MP Autobot cars now

[william-james88]

So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

I am assuming they are the same.

All I can do is compare mine to pictures and I can't see a difference other than some stamping on the inside of his left foot (rear section of the car). It feels great in hand, I'm really happy to have Prowl and Bluestreak, I just need more MP Autobot cars now

Do you have Sideswipe yet? He didnt get a Hasbro release which is too bad since I find him to be the best car mold so far (and he was the first).

[galvatron00]

All I can do is compare mine to pictures and I can't see a difference other than some stamping on the inside of his left foot (rear section of the car). It feels great in hand, I'm really happy to have Prowl and Bluestreak, I just need more MP Autobot cars now

Do you have Sideswipe yet? He didnt get a Hasbro release which is too bad since I find him to be the best car mold so far (and he was the first).

I didn't get one yet, and I thought Hasbro was releasing him (rumors I guess) so now I'll pick one up. That's good to hear that he's awesome, even though I'm partial to Z cars over Lamborghini's Too bad he didn't come with the jet pack that Prime could steal.

[ScottyP]

So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

Pretty much. Got my Hasbro one in yesterday and here are the teeny tiny nit-picky differences:

• Hasbro stamping on inner right foot/leg assembly.
• Silver paint is thicker on Hasbro one - but this could be one of those "only on mine" things and may vary by piece and/or production run.
• There might be an extremely minor difference in the dark metallic paint. Maybe. Would probably have to take them out in sunlight to be sure, but could also be a production run thing.
• The red plastic in his lower torso (under the car hood in robot mode) is all the same color of red on my Hasbro one, whereas on my Takara version (which is a 1st run one) there is a slight difference in red for red parts on the same toy. I may have the versions backwards here, running this off memory since I'm not at home.

In other words - what differences are there between the Hasbro and Takara MP Bluestreaks? For practical purposes, nothing.

[chuckdawg1999]

Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

[william-james88]

Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

What price would make sense for an MP seeker to you? Should it be the same as the MP cars?

[chuckdawg1999]

Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

What price would make sense for an MP seeker to you? Should it be the same as the MP cars?

Hasbro version without the cape and crown yes. I also think the Hasbro cars should be around $45

[william-james88]

Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

What price would make sense for an MP seeker to you? Should it be the same as the MP cars?

Hasbro version without the cape and crown yes. I also think the Hasbro cars should be around $45

But isnt that less than the cost of the Takara versions? And as far as we know, there isn't any difference between the toy aside from the box.

[Wolfman Jake]

Does anyone know what the MP-11 Starscream releases have been going for at retail in Japan? I know the standard price domestically for that import is about $200, but what is it before the mark-up? That should give us a better idea as to the true value of the Hasbro version, sine the cape and crown, for $79.99.

[william-james88]

Does anyone know what the MP-11 Starscream releases have been going for at retail in Japan? I know the standard price domestically for that import is about $200, but what is it before the mark-up? That should give us a better idea as to the true value of the Hasbro version, sine the cape and crown, for $79.99.

Sure, it was between 85$ and 115$ depending on Japanese retailer. So this is in the ballpark while it not being an outright deal. It is cheaper than the cheapest it ever sold before and there is no need form importing.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-1950&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dstarscream%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

[Wolfman Jake]

I just had an interesting thought. Since Hasbro seems to have stopped "meddling" with the decos of Takara's MP figures for release here in the past few years (Prowl, Bluestreak, and 2014 Grimlock, along with Optimus Prime, Soundwave, and the upcoming Starscream for the most part), I wonder if, after potentially releasing Skywarp in the MP-11 mold in the next year or two, they'll go back and release Thundercracker yet again. Yes, he already got an MP-11 release a few years ago, but Hasbro had to tinker with things, and he would be the odd seeker out of the core trio in terms of his wing stripes and extra "decals" tampographed on various parts of him. Maybe, we'll get the coronation gear with a redo of MP-11 Thundercracker, incentivizing collectors who would otherwise be uninterested in another release with only "minor" deco modifications, while squeezing a little bit more money out of collectors who prefer screen accuracy and symmetry among their masterpiece seekers. Just food for thought, but if I were Hasbro, I think this plan would be genius.

[digktialx]

I had the original MP Starscream from Wal-Mart and then MP Thundercracker later on. I love Starscream but I was hoping they'd release a new mold similar to the updated Thundercracker mold. I since sold him years ago and I'm excited to see a new release for Starscream. I was never fond of the crown and cape since I'm pretty much strictly 1984 in my TF collecting.

[galvatron00]

I just had an interesting thought. Since Hasbro seems to have stopped "meddling" with the decos of Takara's MP figures for release here in the past few years (Prowl, Bluestreak, and 2014 Grimlock, along with Optimus Prime, Soundwave, and the upcoming Starscream for the most part), I wonder if, after potentially releasing Skywarp in the MP-11 mold in the next year or two, they'll go back and release Thundercracker yet again. Yes, he already got an MP-11 release a few years ago, but Hasbro had to tinker with things, and he would be the odd seeker out of the core trio in terms of his wing stripes and extra "decals" tampographed on various parts of him. Maybe, we'll get the coronation gear with a redo of MP-11 Thundercracker, incentivizing collectors who would otherwise be uninterested in another release with only "minor" deco modifications, while squeezing a little bit more money out of collectors who prefer screen accuracy and symmetry among their masterpiece seekers. Just food for thought, but if I were Hasbro, I think this plan would be genius.

That's just crazy enough that it seems logical!! It could definitely happen. What would be even crazier is if they parted it out between the releases. One gets the crown, one gets the shoulder pads, one gets the cape.