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shajaki wrote:sorry, whats at 13:00? i watched from 11:30 to the end and saw the breakage, but did i miss something?megatronus wrote:Around 13:00, when he's playing with the mini-dude.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
you got it megs. and while i said im jumping on the "F@*% peugh" bandwagon, ill remind everyone its not entirely because of this. i wasnt a big fan of his anyways. he's dry and does zero editing, which reeaaally bugs me. he might do a lot of videos, but if he did half as many and put a some more effort into them then he'd be great.megatronus wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Maybe he didn't mention it because, when you watch, it was immediately obvious that it broke? He didn't seem to care too much. Either he's a great actor or he just didn't care as much about that.
Although you have convinced me he's too easy on the toys for you guys, it doesn't prove the main thrust of the argument. That all sponsored reviewers are untrustworthy. And it doesn't prove that they're untrustworthy because they've been sponsored either. You have to pick out a few reviews from other reviewers as well.
That's fairly generous of you, especially since it appears he tries to either mask or minimize the appearance of the breakage. I don't think we're trying to prove X's argument for him; this just happens to be an egregious example of blatantly avoiding comment on something negative, and not just anything negative, but on camera breakage.
As we've established, there's no smoking gun short of some kind of bizarre reviewer confessional. But if this turns into a pattern of some sort, you have an argument against Peaugh, possibly. That says nothing about any of the other reviewers out there. It's just sort of annoying that he just... says nothing.
shajaki wrote:you got it megs. and while i said im jumping on the "F@*% peugh" bandwagon, ill remind everyone its not entirely because of this. i wasnt a big fan of his anyways. he's dry and does zero editing, which reeaaally bugs me. he might do a lot of videos, but if he did half as many and put a some more effort into them then he'd be great.megatronus wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Maybe he didn't mention it because, when you watch, it was immediately obvious that it broke? He didn't seem to care too much. Either he's a great actor or he just didn't care as much about that.
Although you have convinced me he's too easy on the toys for you guys, it doesn't prove the main thrust of the argument. That all sponsored reviewers are untrustworthy. And it doesn't prove that they're untrustworthy because they've been sponsored either. You have to pick out a few reviews from other reviewers as well.
That's fairly generous of you, especially since it appears he tries to either mask or minimize the appearance of the breakage. I don't think we're trying to prove X's argument for him; this just happens to be an egregious example of blatantly avoiding comment on something negative, and not just anything negative, but on camera breakage.
As we've established, there's no smoking gun short of some kind of bizarre reviewer confessional. But if this turns into a pattern of some sort, you have an argument against Peaugh, possibly. That says nothing about any of the other reviewers out there. It's just sort of annoying that he just... says nothing.
the moment i "turned against" peaugh, was this:
youtube clip of ark studios legends datsuns - cant seem to embed properly :/
he talks about some very "meh" legends class 3P figures with a rediculously high price tag. i watched the whole video waiting for him to say if they were "worth the money" and he doesnt even mention how much they cost. he pretty much lost me after that.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:*shrugs* I suppose I'm a fairly generous guy. I like that there's no editing. It actually lends credibility to him. It's just him filming. He hasn't edited out the break or glued it back together and reshot the video. He shows it break. I could see it. And others noticed it too. It's not something you'd miss. I guess he could point it out more, but he didn't. Its in the video, though. Unedited. I dunno how you can say it's covered; you can clearly see it break. There are smarter ways to hide things. Like, you know, reshooting. Getting an all new toy and reshooting with that. If it was reshot with the piece glues back together or sanded down, you'd never know. If he were interested in just advertising the toy in the best possible light he'd reshoot. He'd reshoot, we'd never know, and you wouldn't accuse him of hiding something.
If you want to say he's not good enough for you, I think that's fair enough. I just don't altogether agree. But I will agree that you shouldn't just use him as your one and only guide.
IMO, you guys are not arguing X's point. X is saying [I]all[/] sponsored reviewers are corrupt and useless. So far all this thread really focuses on is Peaugh. That is not enough. Not by far.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
shajaki wrote:im inclined to jump on the bandwagon. which is a shame since he has such a broad spectrum. but oh well, i wont miss the dryness or total lack of editing thats for sure.leakin' lubricant wrote:The guys a joke! I personally have boycotted his reviews, they are worthless in my eyes, and I would advise any newcomers to the hobby to avoid this guys reviews like the plague.
*edit*
by the way, wheres X? i thought he'd have a field day with this.
leakin' lubricant wrote:Happy beer day X!![]()
Did you watch the Cubra review? Even by Peaughs standards it's bad, can't belive some are still defending him!
fenrir72 wrote:leakin' lubricant wrote:Happy beer day X!![]()
Did you watch the Cubra review? Even by Peaughs standards it's bad, can't belive some are still defending him!
Ariel Brennan raised the same issue about the broken handle. Nope he did not respond to it. Same with another poster raising the issue, he did not answer it at all (check it out in youtube and his responses.)
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think,This recent Peaugh video changes nothing here. Guessing those who like Peaugh will still continue to watch his videos. speculating those who dislike Peaugh will still watch his videos but complain afterwards.
The consensus that I gather here on this forum and on other forums. Peaugh is well liked due to him being the least annoying, least loudest. Voice that is pleasing to the ears. the format he uses to transform the toys, describe articulation, shows off gimmicks, comparisons. Persona that is mild, not conceited. Makes some jokes but doesn't get carried away.
Think a smoking gun is only effective if it makes the supporters into haters or vice versa. Don't think this has happened here.
This smoking gun might as well be made out of tissue paper. As it will be quickly forgotten and won't even put a dent in Peaugh's online video reviewers reputation.
NOS wrote:On topic, I personally believe anyone sponsored by -anyone- is definitely confined in some way as far as what they can and can't say. It's just standard practice. That's why it's always fair to take things with a grain of salt and focus not so much on the words said, but the content presented in the video.
fenrir72 wrote:leakin' lubricant wrote:Happy beer day X!![]()
Did you watch the Cubra review? Even by Peaughs standards it's bad, can't belive some are still defending him!
Ariel Brennan raised the same issue about the broken handle. Nope he did not respond to it. Same with another poster raising the issue, he did not answer it at all (check it out in youtube and his responses.)
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Gauntlet101010 wrote: As for others being surprised he still has supporters ....
Gauntlet101010 wrote:well, in general it just follows form. People who want more emphasis on faults are deepened in not liking him and people who just see it break think he's shown it and that's that. *shruggs* It's perception. Like or dislike you tend to see what you want - and that goes for me as well.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:But I definitely wouldn't just get one guy's opinion on something. Not even if I like him. I may be defending Peaugh here, but if I were on the fence about something I wouldn't rely on just him.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:As a guy defending him here, I don't really want him to overly gush or overly bash a figure. To be honest, I really just want the facts, not the emotion.
Tsutsukakushi wrote: Don't think anyone here, maybe one or a few, Watch these videos to get told to buy or not. Most just watch the videos to see the toy move around in live video. watch the transformation, check out the articulation, see the toy scale, gimmicks and so on.
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:leakin' lubricant wrote:Happy beer day X!![]()
Did you watch the Cubra review? Even by Peaughs standards it's bad, can't belive some are still defending him!
Ariel Brennan raised the same issue about the broken handle. Nope he did not respond to it. Same with another poster raising the issue, he did not answer it at all (check it out in youtube and his responses.)
Haha that's me!!
A couple other folks got responses, but those comments were more "I saw it broke, that sucks!" and less "Why didn't you mention it in the video?" Also, the other comments were posted a few days ago, so he might just not monitor comments that closely for a given video after a day or two.
how does the saying go? the worst thing a hero can do is never try?Rated X wrote:Also earlier on this thread it was asked why I don't take this argument to Facebook or Youtube and call them out there ? Simple reason...
If any of my suspicions are correct, the reviewers have nothing to gain and everything to lose by even addressing me. I'm nobody to them. I'm not worth the risk of creating negative publicity on their bread and butter sites.
shajaki wrote:how does the saying go? the worst thing a hero can do is never try?Rated X wrote:Also earlier on this thread it was asked why I don't take this argument to Facebook or Youtube and call them out there ? Simple reason...
If any of my suspicions are correct, the reviewers have nothing to gain and everything to lose by even addressing me. I'm nobody to them. I'm not worth the risk of creating negative publicity on their bread and butter sites.
if thats not a saying, i just made it. i hate to have to call you out, but X, thats a pretty lame excuse. "im not doing it cause i dont think it will matter"? hell, three other members (including me) have posted on that video of his asking WTF, to which he didnt reply.
but at least we can say we tried. you, being the most vocal about these "shills", not trying, thats just lazy. you have no issues spouting your sermon to us, but cant be bothered to say it to them? sack up man.
shajaki wrote:but everyones asking you to back up your claims, which at this point almost seems like youre actively trying to avoid, and make excuses. making a youtube account is about as hard as making a seibertron account by the way.
youre all talk, no action. at this point you probably should just bow out, cause you sure aint doin anything else to contribute.
Rated X wrote:shajaki wrote:but everyones asking you to back up your claims, which at this point almost seems like youre actively trying to avoid, and make excuses. making a youtube account is about as hard as making a seibertron account by the way.
youre all talk, no action. at this point you probably should just bow out, cause you sure aint doin anything else to contribute.
I think youre missing the entire point. I dont make videos so why would I create an account on a video posting site ?
Im not here for the reviewers, im here for the fandom. Thats why im posting on a fan site...duh![]()
As we have already seen, there are plenty of seibertronians who are active on youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. If this thread gives them the inspiration to take the fight to the reviewers elsewhere, I applaud them.
You keep saying Im all talk. Well thats exactly what people come to a fan site to do. I came to "talk" about my suspicions. If my "talk" helps generate a new additude about sponsored reviewers, then its the fandom speaking on its own, not me. Like I said earlier, all I did was let the cat out the bag. Im not the martyr you want me to be.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
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