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Rated X wrote:I think youre missing the entire point. I dont make videos so why would I create an account on a video posting site ?
Im not here for the reviewers, im here for the fandom. Thats why im posting on a fan site...duh
As we have already seen, there are plenty of seibertronians who are active on youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. If this thread gives them the inspiration to take the fight to the reviewers elsewhere, I applaud them.
You keep saying Im all talk. Well thats exactly what people come to a fan site to do. I came to "talk" about my suspicions. If my "talk" helps generate a new additude about sponsored reviewers, then its the fandom speaking on its own, not me. Like I said earlier, all I did was let the cat out the bag. Im not the martyr you want me to be.
NOS wrote:Not to be defending Peaugh, but did anyone bother to read the comments below the video? He does acknowledge the break per another users post and I quote -
"Yeah, I just got some pliers and pulled it out, still holds just fine. trimmed the other handle to be even. It was weird though, it had only been in there for about 20 minutes and it was like the paint had somehow fused inside the hand hole."
I can't say I understand why he didn't comment on it in the video, but he does acknowledge it . . .
On topic, I personally believe anyone sponsored by -anyone- is definitely confined in some way as far as what they can and can't say. It's just standard practice. That's why it's always fair to take things with a grain of salt and focus not so much on the words said, but the content presented in the video.
leakin' lubricant wrote:NOS wrote:Not to be defending Peaugh, but did anyone bother to read the comments below the video? He does acknowledge the break per another users post and I quote -
"Yeah, I just got some pliers and pulled it out, still holds just fine. trimmed the other handle to be even. It was weird though, it had only been in there for about 20 minutes and it was like the paint had somehow fused inside the hand hole."
I can't say I understand why he didn't comment on it in the video, but he does acknowledge it . . .
On topic, I personally believe anyone sponsored by -anyone- is definitely confined in some way as far as what they can and can't say. It's just standard practice. That's why it's always fair to take things with a grain of salt and focus not so much on the words said, but the content presented in the video.
True he does mention it in the comments but only when asked about is directly, in contrast in Optibotimus' review of Kronos, he not only mentions the breakage he shows detailed shots of the nature and extent of the break, Peaugh literally covers up the break with his thumb! And also fails to mention what millions of viewers can see with their own eyes. I have no doubt that sponsered reviewers are bound to some form of contract but I personally expect a certain amount of integrity from my reviewers.
NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
shajaki wrote:i beleive the point with X has been made (which he obviously wont heed), but my one last point is with the youtube account: you seem to think that having an account only makes sense for those making videos? thats really not the case. probably 90% of youtube accounts are of people who watch videos rather than make them.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
it isnt? i coulda swore this thread was made to move your anti-reviewer rants elsewhere. so im pretty sure i am on topic. however, i know when its time to stop beating a dead horse.Rated X wrote:I rarely say this, but why don't you get back on topic? This thread is about sponsored reviewers agendas, not Rated X's agenda.
leakin' lubricant wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
Apart from covering up the break with his thumb? Come on, if (and I do mean if) reveiwers get the figures for free are they really going to go back cap in hand asking for yet another free figure? And lets say that they are paid instead of reciving free figures I dont think BBTS and the like are going to pay for a reveiwer and go to the trouble of sending out relpacement figuers every time one of them has a fault.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
shajaki wrote:it isnt? i coulda swore this thread was made to move your anti-reviewer rants elsewhere. so im pretty sure i am on topic. however, i know when its time to stop beating a dead horse.Rated X wrote:I rarely say this, but why don't you get back on topic? This thread is about sponsored reviewers agendas, not Rated X's agenda.
Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
So you are implying Peaugh shouldn't use the mouth he was born with on camera ?
How many people have watched his review embedded on fan sites like this one and will never see the youtube comments or Peaugh's replies ?
He broke the damn figure on camera and showed absolutely no emotion as if he didn't care. As the face of TF Source, that was extremely unprofessional. He could have simply said, "uh oh I just snapped the handle so be warned these things are not only tight but fragile". He could have gone on to advise people to sand down the handles a bit to avoid issues. But instead he just bit his tongue and did exactly what a company puppet would do...keep the tape rolling and act like it's nothing you should be concerned about.
Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
So you are implying Peaugh shouldn't use the mouth he was born with on camera ?
How many people have watched his review embedded on fan sites like this one and will never see the youtube comments or Peaugh's replies ?
He broke the damn figure on camera and showed absolutely no emotion as if he didn't care. As the face of TF Source, that was extremely unprofessional. He could have simply said, "uh oh I just snapped the handle so be warned these things are not only tight but fragile". He could have gone on to advise people to sand down the handles a bit to avoid issues. But instead he just bit his tongue and did exactly what a company puppet would do...keep the tape rolling and act like it's nothing you should be concerned about.
NOS wrote:Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
So you are implying Peaugh shouldn't use the mouth he was born with on camera ?
How many people have watched his review embedded on fan sites like this one and will never see the youtube comments or Peaugh's replies ?
He broke the damn figure on camera and showed absolutely no emotion as if he didn't care. As the face of TF Source, that was extremely unprofessional. He could have simply said, "uh oh I just snapped the handle so be warned these things are not only tight but fragile". He could have gone on to advise people to sand down the handles a bit to avoid issues. But instead he just bit his tongue and did exactly what a company puppet would do...keep the tape rolling and act like it's nothing you should be concerned about.
X, I'm not about to fuel the fire of your ever-burning furnace to which you insist your views are always 100% correct. Believe what you wish to believe.
To anyone else who doesn't agree with my post I only say this . . . if your intention is to deceive people on the internet would you purposely upload evidence or would you simply not upload the material and wait for a replacement and re-shoot the footage?
leakin' lubricant wrote:Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
So you are implying Peaugh shouldn't use the mouth he was born with on camera ?
How many people have watched his review embedded on fan sites like this one and will never see the youtube comments or Peaugh's replies ?
He broke the damn figure on camera and showed absolutely no emotion as if he didn't care. As the face of TF Source, that was extremely unprofessional. He could have simply said, "uh oh I just snapped the handle so be warned these things are not only tight but fragile". He could have gone on to advise people to sand down the handles a bit to avoid issues. But instead he just bit his tongue and did exactly what a company puppet would do...keep the tape rolling and act like it's nothing you should be concerned about.
That is exactly what he should have done, his scilence when he breaks the piece is deafening.
Delta Magnus wrote:Or, you know, he thought "That was my fault, if I went out of my way to say I was clumsy and broke it by accident it might seem like I was trying to cover something up". It perhaps wasn't the best decision but there's no way it's decent evidence to accuse him of being a "company puppet".
Delta Magnus wrote:Or, you know, he thought "That was my fault, if I went out of my way to say I was clumsy and broke it by accident it might seem like I was trying to cover something up". It perhaps wasn't the best decision but there's no way it's decent evidence to accuse him of being a "company puppet".
Gauntlet101010 wrote:leakin' lubricant wrote:Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:NOS wrote: Please don't misunderstand me, it's not as if I'm trying to defend Peaugh. To be honest, I rarely watch any reviews for figures so, I'm ignorant to the instances in which this may have happened in the past. All I'm saying is if he was intending to deceive there are far better ways to do so than to cover it up with his thumb and hope the viewers don't notice.
I agree. Simply waiting for a replacement part and reshooting would be a far more effective deception. Maybe he should have highlighted it more, but I can't say he deceived anyone when he made a video of the part breaking and posted it to youtube.
So you are implying Peaugh shouldn't use the mouth he was born with on camera ?
How many people have watched his review embedded on fan sites like this one and will never see the youtube comments or Peaugh's replies ?
He broke the damn figure on camera and showed absolutely no emotion as if he didn't care. As the face of TF Source, that was extremely unprofessional. He could have simply said, "uh oh I just snapped the handle so be warned these things are not only tight but fragile". He could have gone on to advise people to sand down the handles a bit to avoid issues. But instead he just bit his tongue and did exactly what a company puppet would do...keep the tape rolling and act like it's nothing you should be concerned about.
That is exactly what he should have done, his scilence when he breaks the piece is deafening.
Again, if he wanted to hide it he wouldn't have posted the video to youtube. That's not how you hide something.
Delta Magnus wrote:Well, something breaking on camera and saying "that was my fault, I was being clumsy there" could be viewed by a lot of people as "This toy is fragile, but I'm going to say I was just being clumsy to avoid people knowing it breaks easily". Of course, regardless of what he'd said he'd probably still be called out for being "a shill" by people like you.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think there's much winning for Peaugh here. He visibly struggles with the thing and breaks it on camera. He posts the footage to Youtube, totally unedited. It's completely transparent. I don't see a running commentary as helping much.
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