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SillySpringer wrote:I can't go to SDCC this year, so which online retailers do you guys think will have this set?

Following the trend of recent years, they'll probably be available on Hasbro Toy Shop on a random day after the con. The listings will go up in the middle of the night and they'll all be gone by morning before any normal person has a chance to order them.

SillySpringer wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:ergh...not really digging these re-decos. Honestly, as a group they look pretty awful and they are rather pointless. If they were supposed to be new characters it would be cool but as existing characters I...no. These are dreadful.

Well that is too bad because I think they look AWESOME! I couldn't get the original version of Arcee, so getting one, with not only an awesome paint scheme, but also fixed hands, and a bunch of new and pointless weapons? Must buy for me! =)

Hey man, if you like em get em! They aren't for me. I have heard that Takara will be releasing remolds of some other fembots. My money will go to them

Optimizzy wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:ergh...not really digging these re-decos. Honestly, as a group they look pretty awful and they are rather pointless. If they were supposed to be new characters it would be cool but as existing characters I...no. These are dreadful.

Well that is too bad because I think they look AWESOME! I couldn't get the original version of Arcee, so getting one, with not only an awesome paint scheme, but also fixed hands, and a bunch of new and pointless weapons? Must buy for me! =)

Hey man, if you like em get em! They aren't for me. I have heard that Takara will be releasing remolds of some other fembots. My money will go to them

Thanks man! I am a fan of badass fembot repaints! I think it is cool that these characters are in the comics.

shajaki wrote:

Moosey wrote:$75 is super awesome for these 3! Only one I have the original of is Windblade, and I WILL have this set, I don't care how much I may have to pay.

I sure do. First eBay listings have the gals listed at $200.

Soooooo... anyone going to SDCC this year?

Oof.... Hopefully their price will go down. When does HTS usually put up exclusives?

Optimizzy wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:ergh...not really digging these re-decos. Honestly, as a group they look pretty awful and they are rather pointless. If they were supposed to be new characters it would be cool but as existing characters I...no. These are dreadful.

Well that is too bad because I think they look AWESOME! I couldn't get the original version of Arcee, so getting one, with not only an awesome paint scheme, but also fixed hands, and a bunch of new and pointless weapons? Must buy for me! =)

Hey man, if you like em get em! They aren't for me. I have heard that Takara will be releasing remolds of some other fembots. My money will go to them

Sorry to post two things in a row, but I just wanted to point out how awesome you are Optimizzy! It's so awesome to see people agree to disagree for a change rather than being narrowminded. I wish everyone could be like you in the forums!!

Moosey wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:ergh...not really digging these re-decos. Honestly, as a group they look pretty awful and they are rather pointless. If they were supposed to be new characters it would be cool but as existing characters I...no. These are dreadful.

Well that is too bad because I think they look AWESOME! I couldn't get the original version of Arcee, so getting one, with not only an awesome paint scheme, but also fixed hands, and a bunch of new and pointless weapons? Must buy for me! =)

Hey man, if you like em get em! They aren't for me. I have heard that Takara will be releasing remolds of some other fembots. My money will go to them

Sorry to post two things in a row, but I just wanted to point out how awesome you are Optimizzy! It's so awesome to see people agree to disagree for a change rather than being narrowminded. I wish everyone could be like you in the forums!!

Same goes here, I thought he was gonna bite my head off! XD You're awesome Optimizzy!

Now back on topic!

Moosey wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Moosey wrote:$75 is super awesome for these 3! Only one I have the original of is Windblade, and I WILL have this set, I don't care how much I may have to pay.

I sure do. First eBay listings have the gals listed at $200.

Soooooo... anyone going to SDCC this year?

Oof.... Hopefully their price will go down. When does HTS usually put up exclusives?

That Bot wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I can't go to SDCC this year, so which online retailers do you guys think will have this set?

Following the trend of recent years, they'll probably be available on Hasbro Toy Shop on a random day after the con. The listings will go up in the middle of the night and they'll all be gone by morning before any normal person has a chance to order them.

That answer your question?

SillySpringer wrote:There is a difference between having tough girls that need to be tough to survive and get the job done, and having tough girls taking the roll of the guys and the guys being the wimps. In this picture for example:
It's not Elita one being tough for a good reason, it's to make optimus look like a wimpy girl.

But it's okay for the male TransFormers to be tough and the women be wimpy? You can't ever have a fembot wipe the floor with a man? Yeah, that's sexist.

Delta Magnus wrote:I never said THAT was good either. Although the comparison is a little off given the particular brand of stupidity I'm referring to is the combination of "UNKILLABLE MARY SUE BADASS LOL" with "ERMAHGERD MUH STRONK EMPOWERED WOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN".

So you're saying women need men? Again, that's sexist.

If y'all don't like kickass female characters, then don't read/watch/whatever it is that has them in it... but many people DO enjoy strong, killer women. Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:There is a difference between having tough girls that need to be tough to survive and get the job done, and having tough girls taking the roll of the guys and the guys being the wimps. In this picture for example:
It's not Elita one being tough for a good reason, it's to make optimus look like a wimpy girl.

But it's okay for the male TransFormers to be tough and the women be wimpy? You can't ever have a fembot wipe the floor with a man? Yeah, that's sexist.

Delta Magnus wrote:I never said THAT was good either. Although the comparison is a little off given the particular brand of stupidity I'm referring to is the combination of "UNKILLABLE MARY SUE BADASS LOL" with "ERMAHGERD MUH STRONK EMPOWERED WOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN".

So you saying women need men? Again, that's sexist.

If y'all don't like kickass female characters, then don't read/watch/whatever it is that has them in it... but many people DO enjoy strong, killer women. Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

Women are to be loved and cherished by men, I am not sexist.
Men, most of the time, are built for tough labor. While women, are built for being motherly. Read the bible.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

Darn tootin' she was!

SillySpringer wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:There is a difference between having tough girls that need to be tough to survive and get the job done, and having tough girls taking the roll of the guys and the guys being the wimps. In this picture for example:
It's not Elita one being tough for a good reason, it's to make optimus look like a wimpy girl.

But it's okay for the male TransFormers to be tough and the women be wimpy? You can't ever have a fembot wipe the floor with a man? Yeah, that's sexist.

Delta Magnus wrote:I never said THAT was good either. Although the comparison is a little off given the particular brand of stupidity I'm referring to is the combination of "UNKILLABLE MARY SUE BADASS LOL" with "ERMAHGERD MUH STRONK EMPOWERED WOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN".

So you saying women need men? Again, that's sexist.

If y'all don't like kickass female characters, then don't read/watch/whatever it is that has them in it... but many people DO enjoy strong, killer women. Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

Women are to be loved and cherished by men, I am not sexist.
Men, most of the time, are built for tough labor. While women, are built for being motherly. Read the bible.

Bringing up an extremely sexist two thousand year old book to tell us how men and women are supposed to be? This gun get gud

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I never said THAT was good either. Although the comparison is a little off given the particular brand of stupidity I'm referring to is the combination of "UNKILLABLE MARY SUE BADASS LOL" with "ERMAHGERD MUH STRONK EMPOWERED WOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN".

So you think women do need men? Again, that's sexist.

If y'all don't like kickass female characters, then don't read/watch/whatever it is that has them in it... but many people DO enjoy strong, killer women... Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

I never said that. Stop strawmanning. I wasn't saying that strong female characters are bad (there's a reason one of my favourite movies is Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind). What I was saying is that badly written strong female characters are bad. Characters whose only defining feature is being a "strong independent woman who don't need no man" and who can't stop telling us about this/how weak and puny male characters are (see: just about every Tumblr comic ever). I like the idea of 3 fembots hunting down rampaging, monstrous metallic behemoths just as much as the next person, which is why I really, REALLY don't want IDW to screw it up.

Now granted I haven't read very much of the IDW comics and have heard lots of good things about them, but I have also heard lots of bad things about them, and given some of its fans (*cough* Walky *cough*) I can't say I'm not a little bit worried about the series descending into SJW circlejerk territory. I've seen it happen to other series and I don't want to see it happen to this one.

*Reads back through thread*

Unicron's left horn, all I did was say I had a most likely irrational bad feeling about something and didn't want to see it fail, and look what's happened.

Well. Definitely want this set. Unlike most I like the Wndblade mould, even with its flaws, and the decos on all three are amazing

Now just comes the cost....

Delta Magnus: I reiterate my invite to go read the comics, then, as you say you're not really familiar with them.

(Yours,
an SJB)

...SJB?

Warrior is not the only class.

I choose Bard.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:There is a difference between having tough girls that need to be tough to survive and get the job done, and having tough girls taking the roll of the guys and the guys being the wimps. In this picture for example:
It's not Elita one being tough for a good reason, it's to make optimus look like a wimpy girl.

But it's okay for the male TransFormers to be tough and the women be wimpy? You can't ever have a fembot wipe the floor with a man? Yeah, that's sexist.

Delta Magnus wrote:I never said THAT was good either. Although the comparison is a little off given the particular brand of stupidity I'm referring to is the combination of "UNKILLABLE MARY SUE BADASS LOL" with "ERMAHGERD MUH STRONK EMPOWERED WOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN".

So you saying women need men? Again, that's sexist.

If y'all don't like kickass female characters, then don't read/watch/whatever it is that has them in it... but many people DO enjoy strong, killer women. Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

Women are to be loved and cherished by men, I am not sexist.
Men, most of the time, are built for tough labor. While women, are built for being motherly. Read the bible.

Bringing up an extremely sexist two thousand year old book to tell us how men and women are supposed to be? This gun get gud

You'll be surprised how accurate the bible is.
The bible never fails.
Give me a question about the bible! (But PM me instead of spamming the forum.) -_-

Back on topic!

Congratulations, you have just put me off the IDW comics altogether.

Yes, please, let's bring this back to the topic at hand.

I'll go lie down for a bit, myself.

I don't think Devastator is worth it, but this Combiner Hunters set definitely is! =)

What I'm really surprised to see from these two sets is the closer relation that Hasbro has to IDW, compared to previous years.

I mean, the Knights of Unicron set was fun, but had no connection to the fictions, or the franchise in general other than some fun references and conflation of 80s properties and trends.

Both of these sets, on the other hand, feature prominently in the comics, be it due to Hasbro deciding on the figures first, or the evolving Barber/Roberts/Scott storylines. It's ..really quite cool.

SillySpringer wrote:You'll be surprised how accurate the bible is.
The bible never fails.

SS, you have no idea how much I am restraining myself right now from going on a rant.... You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. (also I am sorry Va'al )

Va'al wrote:What I'm really surprised to see from these two sets is the closer relation that Hasbro has to IDW, compared to previous years.

I mean, the Knights of Unicron set was fun, but had no connection to the fictions, or the franchise in general other than some fun references and conflation of 80s properties and trends.

Both of these sets, on the other hand, feature prominently in the comics, be it due to Hasbro deciding on the figures first, or the evolving Barber/Roberts/Scott storylines. It's ..really quite cool.

I am actually planning on getting the retail version of Devastator instead of this version, mainly because of the price, but also because I like the retail version's headsculpt better. For me, Devastator needs a visor.

This set on the other hand, will go great with the retail Devastator!

SillySpringer wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:There is a difference between having tough girls that need to be tough to survive and get the job done, and having tough girls taking the roll of the guys and the guys being the wimps. In this picture for example:
It's not Elita one being tough for a good reason, it's to make optimus look like a wimpy girl.

But it's okay for the male TransFormers to be tough and the women be wimpy? You can't ever have a fembot wipe the floor with a man? Yeah, that's sexist.

Delta Magnus wrote:I never said THAT was good either. Although the comparison is a little off given the particular brand of stupidity I'm referring to is the combination of "UNKILLABLE MARY SUE BADASS LOL" with "ERMAHGERD MUH STRONK EMPOWERED WOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN".

So you saying women need men? Again, that's sexist.

If y'all don't like kickass female characters, then don't read/watch/whatever it is that has them in it... but many people DO enjoy strong, killer women. Xena: Warrior Princess was popular for a reason.

Women are to be loved and cherished by men, I am not sexist.
Men, most of the time, are built for tough labor. While women, are built for being motherly. Read the bible.

Dear... come back and tell me how men are supposed to be tough after you push out a 9 pound baby, who went into the birth canal at an odd angle, without any pain killers. (Then get up and walk around an hour later)

Then we'll talk about women being tough.


On topic, however... I like Arcee's color. The weapons though... it's just too big. The box art looks fantastic.