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Brokebot wrote:First-Aid wrote:So my wife was gone and I got bored. So I went back and looked at the actual ratio of positive vs negative posts. It's actually just a tad under 93% negative. The tears and gnashing of teeth really make me ashamed. It's sad when I have to go to Facebook to see positive feedback. So Why is that? I suspect it's because this trailer tickles the fancy of the general populace pretty darn well and may go a long way in helping people forget The Last Knight (even though it still grossed nearly two thirds of a billion dollars). The only people unhappy seem to be the whiners on here.
I trust Facebook opinions as seriously as I take the twits of Twitter. Who knows how many of those accounts are actual people with an actual opinion as opposed to bots and paid shills.
I honestly hope the movie is every bit as awesome as you think it'll be. Even more so. But I've pretty much moved on from Bayverse explosion porn. I need more substance than empty flash, and I didn't see anything that told me that this wasn't just another **** show.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
The first one did: "No sacrifice, no victory."Rodimus Prime wrote:Bayverse films have messages?![]()
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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AOE seemed, at times, like it might have wanted to have a message of some kind, but it remained indecisive on what was trying to say, fumbling around between stuff about family and stuff about the dangers of innovation without caution or limits.
DOTM and TLK just didn't bother.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Bayverse films have messages?![]()
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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Bayverse films have messages?![]()
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I thought it was Bay's creepy fixation with the US military in every single film
Yeah, AOE was the one movie that was like "The US government and its soldiers are EEEEEEEEVIIIIIIILLLL!!!!!!"ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Bayverse films have messages?![]()
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I thought it was Bay's creepy fixation with the US military in every single film
AoE didn't really have that![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Like how an ant would get involved if two gorillas fight near their anthill, which happened to have a gorilla skull nearby?![]()
As a Toho fan, humans are there to marvel and/or run in terror at the sight of the giant threat. That's the most believable outcome.
The little humans being able to down a Decepticon with utterly inferior technology was the most ridiculous part of Bayformers. Which is saying alot.
ZeroWolf wrote:plus never underestimate how innovative we humans can get at killing things
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:plus never underestimate how innovative we humans can get at killing things
2000's Mechagodzilla variant not withstanding. The issue stems from the base misconception that Bayformers operates under. They are not human cars that shift into robots. They are robots that wear car cosplay. The Transformers are sentient alien technology. Even down to what they are made of. Firing metal projectiles (of any size) should ping off them, akin to Superman. Bay certainly gets his jollies watching US troops firing off big guns. But in the context of Transformers lore. It would be like throwing a spear at a tank or shooting an arrow at a fighter jet.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Beast Wars: no humans - Proof they were not needed at all. Transformers could only kill each other.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
QFT.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:My stance has always been the same song.
'86 Movie: 2 humans - No negative impact to the story in any way. They killed zero Transformers.
Beast Wars: no humans - Proof they were not needed at all. Transformers could only kill each other
In summary: The best of Transformers = less human interactions, the better.
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:Just as I thought, Unicron will not be planet-sized. I can't see how Earth could turn into a huge robot. Coz in The Last Knight they said Unicron is their ancient name for Earth. I think Unicron will be average size hiding underground.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Someone stole Arcee from a RoTB cardboard display. lol.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Bayverse films have messages?![]()
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I thought it was Bay's creepy fixation with the US military in every single film
AoE didn't really have thatPlus I liked the idea of NEST and that humanity would get involved more with the war on their doorstep. Especially if they had a specimen on ice to study for so long.
william-james88 wrote:AOE was instead a love letter to China and their efficient military. Don't know how well that's gonna age.
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:plus never underestimate how innovative we humans can get at killing things
2000's Mechagodzilla variant not withstanding. The issue stems from the base misconception that Bayformers operates under. They are not human cars that shift into robots. They are robots that wear car cosplay. The Transformers are sentient alien technology. Even down to what they are made of. Firing metal projectiles (of any size) should ping off them, akin to Superman. Bay certainly gets his jollies watching US troops firing off big guns. But in the context of Transformers lore. It would be like throwing a spear at a tank or shooting an arrow at a fighter jet.
Considering Transformers change what they're made up of with every iteration, I have no problem with the live action movies version and allowing humans a chance at doing something. This will boil down to a my view your view thing though, so we may end up having to agree to disagree.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Someone stole Arcee from a RoTB cardboard display. lol.
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