The Energon Pub

News Credits: 2 · Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:43 pm

If I cared about animation as a kid, I wouldn't have ever watched Tiny Toons or Animaniacs, two of my favorites. Seriously, go look at how HORRID and sloppy those two were! Awful! I didn't care. At six or seven we barely know how to blow our noses, much less dissect the quality of cartoon animation.

So this is actually a step up from some of the crap we watched.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:00 am

SolCross wrote:I wish they'd bump it to a later time slot. There's no way I can wake up that early.

TIVO is a beautiful thing! Set it before you crash, and your shiny new episode is waiting for you when you decide to haul yer bum outta the rack on Saturday! :grin:

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:08 am

I firmly believe that if you make a good cartoon that tells an interesting story but isn't boring, kids will like it. Today's suits seem to think that you need to have goofy humor, really cartoonish animation, and childish (and child) characters for kids to care about shows, but I think kids are more drawn to interesting characters and concepts. G.I. Joe and The Transformers in the '80s had their dumb moments, but they were straightforward and serious for the most part. Batman: TAS appealed to everyone. Transformers: Animated has some good writing, but it suffers from art that seems like it belongs to a cartoon for a younger demographic. It's an odd mix, especially when you have human characters that are acting serious but look like Dora the Explorer. I think Sari is drawn younger than she acts in order to appeal to kids. She's actually not annoying and serves a decent purpose, but she really should be more like 12. As drawn, she looks about 5. The robots, at least, don't suffer as much from this. We're also given the obligatory groan-inducing silliness that seems to come with Anime-influenced cartoons. My uncle actually seemed interested in watching the pilot with me until Blitzwing embarrassingly broke into "Itsy Bitsy Spider." What a stupid moment. My uncle just got up and left the room. I think one of the strengths of this new show is some of the more mature aspects of character development, such as Sari growing up around machines more than people, Mr. Sumdac's guilt over using Megtaron's technology, and Prime's growing position of leader. I just hope that the infantile animation and stupid moments don't outweigh the positives. And, based on the anecdotes I've read about kids being bored with the human-based scenes, it just proves that the robots are the real star of Transformers and I wish the creators of the recent shows (and movie) would realize that. No way is a team of human supervillains going to seem like anything but a distraction from the Decepticons.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:11 am

The thing that makes this show better than cybertron is that when they skip/swap episodes it won't make a difference cause every episode is a separate story and doesn't have to be chronological.
Plus I wanna see that episode more than the German dude from the un-pimp Volkswagen commercials breathing fire.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:22 am

I was another kid that would purposefully wake up early in the morning on Saturday just to watch cartoons...there were some shows that I would refuse to watch so I would leave and do something else instead for 30 minutes or whenever the cartoon was over. Nowadays (for the last few years), I still occasionally watch Saturday morning cartoons. In terms of the schedule change, it does not bother me.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:24 am

Liege Evilmus wrote:They realy screwed this up. I can understand wanting to take the movie and make it kid friendly, but the imagry in this show is just infantile, which on average, kids don't like(it insults them).

The heck you talking about? I watch TF Animated and I'm 13.
I watched Armada when I was 8 and loved it. But it was my second favorite show next to Teen Titans. I didn't care about animation. I cared about action and how funny and stylish it was.
When I watched Energon, I think it sucks because the animation sucked, I was older and noticed that the writing sucked and there wasn't enough action. just CG and lazer with stock footage and humans.
I'm watching this with my friends and ones who thought Transformers were dumb loved it. Hasbro did what they wanted, they attracted old and new fans who were kids.
In fact, one of the things I don't like about G1 is the animation. It was funny, action-packed and stylish. BUT animation was full of mistakes. And the mistakes insult me.
its not the type of animation.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:24 am

Liege Evilmus wrote:They realy screwed this up. I can understand wanting to take the movie and make it kid friendly, but the imagry in this show is just infantile, which on average, kids don't like(it insults them).

The heck you talking about? I watch TF Animated and I'm 13.
I watched Armada when I was 8 and loved it. But it was my second favorite show next to Teen Titans. I didn't care about animation. I cared about action and how funny and stylish it was.
When I watched Energon, I think it sucks because the animation sucked, I was older and noticed that the writing sucked and there wasn't enough action. just CG and lazer with stock footage and humans.
I'm watching this with my friends and ones who thought Transformers were dumb loved it. Hasbro did what they wanted, they attracted old and new fans who were kids.
In fact, one of the things I don't like about G1 is the animation. It was funny, action-packed and stylish. BUT animation was full of mistakes. And the mistakes insult me.
its not the type of animation.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:24 am

oops, sorry double post.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:29 am

Liege Evilmus wrote:

Saying kids will watch anything would be like saying Elmo's World will work for a 10 year old, when in truth it's ment for toddlers and the stoned 23 year old that had to baby sit his niece

Actually, I hated Powerpuff girls and I still watched it. I'd watch anything if it was animated. I didn't watch elmo's world because... it was live-action.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:04 am

YESSSSSSSSSSSS the Dinobots are comin'nnnnnnnnnn Just need to make through this horrible week of work :evil:

I mean I'm interested to see Meltdown since the Angry Archer was a pretty bad villian even for a human so hoping Meltdown will be better but I think it's a wise choice to bring the dinobots sooner so people will keep watching.

News Credits: 668 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:50 am

I hope episode five was just filler and nothing pivotal. I'm recording these in order on DVD recorder so I don't have to worry about finding the boxsets when they come out. Not to mention, half the shows I like don't even get a chance to finish their boxsets.

I'm gonna be P.O.ed

News Credits: 129 · Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:15 am

So it starts...

Might as well bury the show ourselves.

CN is bound to kill it yet. Don't anyone get the network a puppy. That's an accident waiting to happen.

Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:02 am

Suggestion... why it is not aired... say in 2054065402403 years from now? :grin:

Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:34 pm

This series is going to succeed. None of you know what kids nowadys are like. They probably changed the episodes because episode 4 did so good(the ratings) so they'll probably changing it to show a better episode to keep the viewers there. Oh aren't the dinobots suppose to start out as Decepticions?

News Credits: 7 · Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:38 pm

OptitronPrime wrote:This series is going to succeed. None of you know what kids nowadys are like. They probably changed the episodes because episode 4 did so good(the ratings) so they'll probably changing it to show a better episode to keep the viewers there. Oh aren't the dinobots suppose to start out as Decepticions?

I think I kinda know what kids are like. I use to be one, and I grew up with 6 others. And I don't think the Dinobots start out as 'Cons, they're just aggressive toward the 'Bots.

Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:50 am

Now is time for all us to vote for Optimus Prime for PRESIDENT

Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:49 am

what days and times does it come on? I dont have Cable. :roll:

Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:32 am

Blurrz wrote:That's dumb. I see no reason for this... but do we have our first BANNED Transformers Animated Episode?

And a G1 TF thing all over again too. They switched around the order of episodes all the time.

Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:42 am

Jazzz wrote:The thing that makes this show better than cybertron is that when they skip/swap episodes it won't make a difference cause every episode is a separate story and doesn't have to be chronological.
Plus I wanna see that episode more than the German dude from the un-pimp Volkswagen commercials breathing fire.

Uh not necessarily There is still an Ark that explains how Megatron is Gonna get his Body back. Eventually right? Has that happened yet? I have not seen Ep.6 yet.