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[o.supreme]

I definitely would . I would miss the fun of Buildking/Landfill's unique ability to Transform in 3 different modes, but the idea presented here is pretty neat. Also as I mentioned previously if the 2 Autobot Targetmasters had their 2 partners that would be icing on the cake.

There is so much potential left in not only the several combiners that still have yet to receive modern upgrades, but also concepts that never were realized ( like the concept art of the Autobot Dinosaur combiner from Masterforce). I'm fully serious in that, if TT decided just to release 2 previously unreleased Combiners per calendar year, just with slight retooling, or straight up repainting they have enough material for 5 years at least. The main Hasbro line could go in all sorts of weird directions and I wouldn't care as long as I just got my 2 combiners per year, with a guaranty that eventually we would get them all, I'd be satisfied.

[Sabrblade]

Close ups of the Quickmix and Scoop heads:

[ZeroWolf]

Thanks for posting that Sabrblade! It looks better then i thought it would.

[Overcracker]

If they found a way to make 4 combine like the original team did that would be awesome.

My Landfill is in storage, but damn if it doesn't make me want to go and pull him out.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

FINALLY! A pic of the of the unproduced Combiner Wars Devastator pretools as the Build Team!

https://twitter.com/Pete_Sinclair04/status/1390727125121081346

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Man, that concept would have been awesome to see fully realized.

[Sabrblade]

The main reason it didn't happen is because Hasbro offered the head pretools to Fun Pub to let them release it instead of Hasbro. But, a Titan class box set was too expensive for Fun Pub to feasibly release for BotCon. As pricy as BotCon registration packages had become over the years, this set would have cost about $400 at the starting price before all of the other expenses would have been added to the package on top of the box set, which would have made the total final cost per package an ungodly ridiculous amount.

The other reason it didn't happen is because Fun Pub thought for sure that Hasbro would do it themselves, having produced the pretooled heads after all. Yet, to everyone's surprise, Hasbro did not do it. Nor Takara.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

The main reason it didn't happen is because Hasbro offered the head pretools to Fun Pub to let them release it instead of Hasbro. But, a Titan class box set was too expensive for Fun Pub to feasibly release for BotCon. As pricy as BotCon registration packages had become over the years, this set would have cost about $400 at the starting price before all of the other expenses would have been added to the package on top of the box set, which would have made the total final cost per package an ungodly ridiculous amount.

The other reason it didn't happen is because Fun Pub thought for sure that Hasbro would do it themselves, having produced the pretooled heads after all. Yet, to everyone's surprise, Hasbro did not do it. Nor Takara.

I can still see TakaraTomy do them before Hasbro as the fan and collectors' market in Japan is more suitable for such releases. Even then, it's a big risk without a proper incentive aside from having the CR Build Team available again... plus two unknown characters (the Double Targetmasters were never released in Japan nor did they have that big a role in the comics except for Devie Scoop).

[MeGrimlock78]

Did anyone ever do a mock up on photo shop of what Devy would have looked like?

I know a guy who did some fanmade digibashes back in 2019 (using the old toy heads since the pretooled heads were only just now revealed).

Quickmix:


Wedge:


Hightower:


Scoop:


Grimlock (likely would have been renamed):


Heavy Load:


Landfill (Version 1.0, new head based on the original)


G1 Landfill (individual component, just for fun, no new head):


Landfill (Version 2.0, uses the G1 Landfill component instead of Heavy Load, head based on G1 Landfill):


Landfill (Version 1.5, retains the Devastator head since no new combiner head was pretooled, adds some more green to the chest wings, this one best resembles what we would have most likely gotten)

I know this is super old, but I JUST learned about the pretooled heads. I would totally buy a Landfill repaint. Generation Selects please!

[-Kanrabat-]

I know this is super old, but I JUST learned about the pretooled heads. I would totally buy a Landfill repaint. Generation Selects please!

HOLY NECROMANCY!



But still, that's one obvious Select repaint that could be done easily by .

So why won't they?

[MeGrimlock78]

But still, that's one obvious Select repaint that could be done easily by .

So why won't they?

Maybe it's not "won't," and is just "haven't yet." I mean, we are getting Tow-Line and more than likely Sideburn thanks to the wonder of Legacy...

[Sabrblade]

But still, that's one obvious Select repaint that could be done easily by .

So why won't they?

Maybe it's not "won't," and is just "haven't yet." I mean, we are getting Tow-Line and more than likely Sideburn thanks to the wonder of Legacy...

Yes, but Tow-Line is made from a recent mold released this year. Same with the potential Side Burn. Combiner Wars Devastator is from 2015, eight years ago. The furthest back that Hasbro has gone to use any mold for Selects or whatnot has been 2019's Siege line, a mere four years ago.

The thing about this retooled set is that Hasbro gave the new tooling to Fun Pub so that they could release it as a potential BotCon or Club exclusive. Fun Pub didn't release it because doing an exclusive Titan set would have been way too expensive to be financially viable for Fun Pub; they never would have gotten their money's worth out of it. Plus, the folks at Fun Pub were so sure that Hasbro would eventually release it themselves, and were quite baffled that Hasbro ultimately didn't.

[MeGrimlock78]

All true...I was just thinking now that we're getting RID characters, it makes way more sense to release a new (even repainted) Landfill.

[King Kuuga]

I don't see there being enough demand for a titan class Landfill that isn't even screen accurate to justify the manufacturing cost.

[-Kanrabat-]

I don't see there being enough demand for a titan class Landfill that isn't even screen accurate to justify the manufacturing cost.

But there is no excuse for a G2 yellow and purple version for not having been done yet.

They just have to take the superior Takara version and make it yellow and purple.

[King Kuuga]

I don't see there being enough demand for a titan class Landfill that isn't even screen accurate to justify the manufacturing cost.

But there is no excuse for a G2 yellow and purple version for not having been done yet.

They just have to take the superior Takara version and make it yellow and purple.

This I agree with wholeheartedly, and it surprises me that it's never happened.

[Sabrblade]

I don't see there being enough demand for a titan class Landfill that isn't even screen accurate to justify the manufacturing cost.

But there is no excuse for a G2 yellow and purple version for not having been done yet.

They just have to take the superior Takara version and make it yellow and purple.

This I agree with wholeheartedly, and it surprises me that it's never happened.

Rumor has it that the SDCC shiny chrome version was originally going to be a G2 yellow version, but it was changed to the chrome version because some higher-up(s) felt the G2 version would be too obscure and wanted the more mainstream green colors for the SDCC exclusive, since most SDCC exclusives were/are meant to have more mass appeal than most other exclusives.

[MeGrimlock78]

I don't see there being enough demand for a titan class Landfill that isn't even screen accurate to justify the manufacturing cost.

But there is no excuse for a G2 yellow and purple version for not having been done yet.

They just have to take the superior Takara version and make it yellow and purple.

This I agree with wholeheartedly, and it surprises me that it's never happened.

Rumor has it that the SDCC shiny chrome version was originally going to be a G2 yellow version, but it was changed to the chrome version because some higher-up(s) felt the G2 version would be too obscure and wanted the more mainstream green colors for the SDCC exclusive, since most SDCC exclusives were/are meant to have more mass appeal than most other exclusives.

That makes sense...the part about the SDCC version originally being planned as yellow I mean. Since G2 Devy was only in a toy, the visor-less face makes perfect sense for that release.

[Dark Starscream]

Did anyone ever do a mock up on photo shop of what Devy would have looked like?

I know a guy who did some fanmade digibashes back in 2019 (using the old toy heads since the pretooled heads were only just now revealed).

Quickmix:


Wedge:


Hightower:


Scoop:


Grimlock (likely would have been renamed):


Heavy Load:


Landfill (Version 1.0, new head based on the original)


G1 Landfill (individual component, just for fun, no new head):


Landfill (Version 2.0, uses the G1 Landfill component instead of Heavy Load, head based on G1 Landfill):


Landfill (Version 1.5, retains the Devastator head since no new combiner head was pretooled, adds some more green to the chest wings, this one best resembles what we would have most likely gotten)

I know this is super old, but I JUST learned about the pretooled heads. I would totally buy a Landfill repaint. Generation Selects please!

Great idea, and amazing photoshops!

Sorry to necro this thread, but I just saw this for the first time, and I love this idea.


Using retools of the upcoming Studio Series 86 Constructicons, it would be amazing if we could get modern updates of the Autobot Double Targetmasters (Scoop, Quickmix, and Landfill), adding in Hauler, Sgt Hound, and Longrack to make a brand new Autobot Combiner! I'm struggling with a name though...

IRON STRIKE?

BUILDMASTER?

STEEL FORGE?

Any thoughts on this combiner, or names for it, would be appreciated!

[RotorstormNZ]

I like the idea, and I like the name Buildmaster!

[Sabrblade]

I like the idea, and I like the name Buildmaster!

It's what the Build Team from RID2001 are called in Japan, the Buildmasters.