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News Credits: 4877 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:33 pm

Seaking of that RID figure, holy **** the Takara rendition aint cheap

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Japan-Takara-Tr ... Sw229bUjzi

Thats double in price since it first came out

News Credits: 3 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:44 pm

Midnight_Fox wrote:Found Wave 2 Warriors at Walmart last night. They asked for a price prompt, but no real issues like I've had in the past when those pop up. Sadly, Windblade's only OK.

Did they also change the robot mode chest's blue to white as well?
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Cyberverse-Warrior-Windblade.jpg

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:39 pm

That is a question I had the moment I saw the figure. This is the first time in history we have ever had a mainline shockwave toy based on his G1 look at the voyager scale from Hasbro. Unlike other contenders for a spot on a classics shelf, he has most of the articulation points required (including awesome ankle tilt) and has the right look at every angle, especially the side and back with a G1 styled backpack.

However, this is still a toy from a line targetted at young kids with a more cartoon design than what we have seen in the Generations line. So, does he really work? Well I attempted to find out by purchasing him and taking photos of him next to various toys from the Generations line. Below are shots of him with his fellow decepticons, to show you how he scales, and to show you how the styles work (or don't) together.

Here he is putting up the good fight agains the autobots.

Here he is victorious.

And here he is ... not.

All in all, I think this works super well until we get a voyager sized shockwave in the Generations line.

The picture above is thanks to Jan who posted on our Facebook page.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:48 pm

william-james88 wrote:

"You wreck, I rule."

News Credits: 4 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:56 pm

I kind of feel as though that this article would be better suited for a smaller segment for a pictorial review. I don't want to come off as sounding rude, but then again, anything offends people online nowadays. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 25 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:00 pm

For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys. [-(

Seriously though, I just wanted to be a smart ass. I'm actually not a good sounding board, as I've developed rather high standards for my collection. For me, the design aesthetic just doesn't match up with Generations figures. This figure looks, to me, made for small children, while the Chug line looks made for large children (and us cranky old men). I can, however, see how it might work for others, especially as we have never really gotten a good Shockwave figure for that line.

This figure would probably make it onto my shelf of "cool figures I just like for no real reason" though.

News Credits: 226 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:02 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

Yeah I'm just gonna go with this.

But at the end of the day, it comes down to the individual collector. It's THEIR collection, THEY should curate it how THEY choose to.

You wanna have a shelf of whacky coloured robots made up from G2 and other sub-lines? You go right ahead you crazy whack-a-doodle!
Now I feel the urge to set up a shelf of whacky coloured robots.

News Credits: 3 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:03 pm

"Oh my god, they killed Grapple!"
"Those b****rds!"

News Credits: 1 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:06 pm

This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

News Credits: 131 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:10 pm

Thanks Will for putting big Shockey in perspective. Looks like a cool figure and I've heard nothing but good about it. Definitely added to the get eventually lost.

News Credits: 25 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:10 pm

Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

This post is not adding to the conversation...its nagging... why is this here?

News Credits: 3 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:12 pm

Personally (largely due to the rumored Siege Shockwave) it's going to be a definite no for me. It looks okay but as somebody who has always preferred my Shockwave to be purple instead of magenta, and as someone who generally dislikes the particular aesthetic of the line he is from, I'll wait and see what else will come along. Seriously why aren't more 3rd parties doing CHUG these days?

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:20 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:I don't want to come off as sounding rude, but then again, anything offends people online nowadays.

No worries mate ;)^

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:28 pm

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Personally (largely due to the rumored Siege Shockwave) it's going to be a definite no for me. It looks okay but as somebody who has always preferred my Shockwave to be purple instead of magenta, and as someone who generally dislikes the particular aesthetic of the line he is from, I'll wait and see what else will come along. Seriously why aren't more 3rd parties doing CHUG these days?

I think because the demand is more for MP. Collectors feel they are getting a better deal especially when a 3p MP costs the same as a Takara MP, while a 3p CHUG costs 2-3 times the price of a Hasbro CHUG.

And purple is always hard to photograph but I can assure you that while he is not dark purple, it is a nice full purple colour. I wouldnt call it magenta.

Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:55 pm

i would have to say no not really, cyber battalion would be a better fit
cyberverse is a bit too different for generations to fit in with
it would be like trying to put Teen Titans Go Robin in with Young Justice as their Robin
it wont look right

News Credits: 25 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:57 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:I don't want to come off as sounding rude, but then again, anything offends people online nowadays.

No worries mate

Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

Yeah, I see that point. Like I said though, it really just comes down to a personal choice/preference. It doesn't quite work for me, but I can see it working for others. It doesn't look bad at all.

News Credits: 226 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:12 pm

Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

What, we suddenly can't have original articles on the site now? It has to be all news?

Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:20 pm

what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:31 pm

f-primus-unicron wrote:what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

Even without that mod he still looks more of a fit for generations

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:33 pm

f-primus-unicron wrote:what about the cyber batallion shockwave? there is already a shapeways kit to give him proper knees without having to mod the figure

If it needs a 3p kit to make it work then I dont see how that makes it a great option. It definitely raises up the price. Plus, its not a mainline figure and is far from as accessible as this one.

Also, this one has a much more G1 accurate backpack (as opposed to wings) along with double the articulation points (ankle rockers, bicep swivel, ect).

I must admit though, that cyber battalion does still look really good. And very G1 (aside from the back)

News Credits: 8 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:36 pm

For now, I am quite content with Prime Shockwave in the role, and this does not motivate mr to replace that toy. Js it perfect? No, but its a great figure. If not for thT, I would probably still be using Energon Shockblast, becaude I love the idea of Space Gun evoling into Orbital Weapins Platform, but the Ebergon figure has some color issues for Shockwave and the gun armbis a bit overkill. I fo keep the Six Shot repaint of that mold on my roster as "Astro Magnum".

Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:36 pm

it is still about 33 dollars, cyber battalion figure plus add on, and i here shamelessly advertising it XD

News Credits: 20 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:39 pm

I have TF:P Shockwave as my Generations Shockwave.

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:53 pm

Burn wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:This article is not news... its a question... why is this here?

What, we suddenly can't have original articles on the site now? It has to be all news?

What am I gonna do now with all the Top 5 lists i have on the backburner????

Joking aside, I really like the discussion this has turned into. It's fun to get new toys and also have an opportunity to look back.

Also, kudos to Sabre for seeing I had a little wreckers theme going on (with extra stuff).

News Credits: 8 · Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:02 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:For me personally, I'd say no. Hell no. That figure is very obviously a kiddie toy, and does not fit in with all my other slightly less kiddie toys.

I know you were being facetious, but I wonder, is it truly obvious? I mean FOC Soundwave clashes just as much with the aesthetic but he too is a generations toy. Magnus is IDW and the upcoming Siege toys have that gritty detail to them. So with them all clashing somewhat I didnt feel one was more out of place.

For me, so would say yes. It's most obvious in how the Gimmisk is portrayed, and in the artistic style of detail elements and facial structure, as well as to a lesser extent the way the color palatte is used. Take for example the photo of Shokwave and TR Megatron. Shocks is a very vibrant color tone while the TR figures are muted, and thats true for most TR figures. Arguably, evwn the pink Misfire is still a more dull satin finish compared to the Cybervers color. Lao, the Generations figures have very squared up, blocky facial features with neutral ecpressions, whereas Shoxkwave has this furrowed brow thing going. Thats one of mt biggest nitpick of thevfigure is the headsculpt.

I suppose I coucld say though, if this were my forst Shockwave and I didnt have any of the previous Shockwaves, I would probably be pretty happy with this one for now. Hard to say if I would take this over the Battalion Shockwave, but with that option I would Definately be invedting in a Knee kit.