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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:29 am

carytheone wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I picked up Bumble Bee on a whim, and I gotta say, He's GOOD! Like shockingly good! Both modes look great, transformation is engaging and mildly complicated for the demographic they are aimed at. The designers put some thought into these Deluxes, for sure!
My opinions have actually changed and I think it's the best of the first wave.
Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion? I'm not sure if that is across all lines or just in the Aligned continuity. Either way, where to do rank him against other deluxe class Bee's?

Cyberverse isn't Aligned.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:48 am

Sabrblade wrote:
carytheone wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I picked up Bumble Bee on a whim, and I gotta say, He's GOOD! Like shockingly good! Both modes look great, transformation is engaging and mildly complicated for the demographic they are aimed at. The designers put some thought into these Deluxes, for sure!
My opinions have actually changed and I think it's the best of the first wave.
Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion? I'm not sure if that is across all lines or just in the Aligned continuity. Either way, where to do rank him against other deluxe class Bee's?
Cyberverse isn't Aligned.

Really? Goes to show what I know. I thought it was a follow up to RiD2015. So it's the David S. Pumpkins of Transformers?

The question still remains; how does deluxe Cyberverse Bee compare to other deluxe Bees based on whatever criteria is chosen to measure with. I already know how WJ88 and DMax feel.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:50 am

carytheone wrote:I thought it was a follow up to RiD2015.

That makes no sense.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:54 am

Sabrblade wrote:
carytheone wrote:I thought it was a follow up to RiD2015.
That makes no sense.

Assumptions, like hairsplitting, rarely do. I haven't paid Cyberverse any attention until someone said "hey this toy is really good, you should check it out".

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:11 pm

Think of Cyberverse as, Transformers: The Greatest Hits.

:lol:

But seriously, I feel like they are just cherry picking from every incarnation that came before it.
And, that is not a criticism.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:40 pm

I picked up my first Cyberverse figure today, Gnaw. He'll just be hanging with the TR sharkticon school though.

Much like Tina Turner, I don't need another hero (Bee). 8-)

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:11 pm

carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?

He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:31 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever

Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway ;)^

I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned

I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending) :-?

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:36 pm

carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)

The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.

I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours

You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:59 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)

The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.

I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours

You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise

FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:03 pm

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)

The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.

I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours

You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise

FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.

You mean PRID Bee. FE Bee had a wider torso and a lower-situated head.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:32 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)

The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.

I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours

You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise

FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.
You mean PRID Bee. FE Bee had a wider torso and a lower-situated head.

No, I meant FE Bee. Slightly different but still some major proportion issues. Same **** different day. Plus they both suffer from lack of screen accuracy especially with the lower legs.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:50 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:Serious question; do you subscribe to the best deluxe Bee opinion?
He is very good, but I do not quite think he is the best deluxe Bee ever. He is really good and a strong figure no doubt, but I think the new SS Deluxe at least is a contender for that role, same with the TLK deluxe, Battleblades Bumblebee (hearsay, I don't own it), and RiD Deluxe.

The full decision will come down to personal taste, but he is very high up there as best deluxe ever
Thanks, all I wanted was opinions anyway I noticed a lack of Prime Bees mentioned I had the RiD Bee and he was solid, but I sold him once I fell out of love with RiD15. I've made up my mind to stop at Gnaw... well and maybe a Quintesson (Earthrise pending)

The BH Bee is pretty cool, but his proportions are a bit wack, the only reason he is a little lower on the list. I got the Bee Supreme from RiD and it was pretty dang sweet. I might take him to work this week since he's on the mind.

I've heard the FE Bee is pretty good, but I haven't handled it. Was thinking about messaging you about yours

You should get ultimate Grimlock, that is a great figure. works on many levels. I too am debating that Quintesson pending Earthrise
FE Bee has the same proportions as BH Bee so the same criticism can apply.
You mean PRID Bee. FE Bee had a wider torso and a lower-situated head.
No, I meant FE Bee. Slightly different but still some major proportion issues. Same **** different day. Plus they both suffer from lack of screen accuracy especially with the lower legs.

The Prime Bees are a little broad in the chesticles. Unlike the SS line and the Cyberverse deluxe Bee, they suffer from real parts syndrome

Screen accuracy (like scale) is nice, but I judge toys by how fun they are. That includes, transformation, articulation, feels - you know, that unquantifiable stuff. I'm open to buying one-offs, if the figure hits those notes. That's why I have a few movie figures.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:22 pm

So Gnaw is really cool and ultimately I feel is a better toy than the TR version.

For more pics and thoughts, click here.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:18 pm

The first wave of Transformers Cyberverse Ultra Class figures for 2020 is available to order now on Amazon.com, with this wave featuring femme fatale Clobber, Autobot cavalier Hot Rod and of course, another Bumblebee to add to your swarm. While these toys have been sighted as US retail stores, they are in-stock for immediate Prime shipping on Amazon so this may prove to be a faster and easier method for many collectors to get their hands on these figures.

Let us know using the site's contact form if you see any new releases like these online, and as always, keep it here at Seibertron.com for all the latest.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:58 pm

Superbly tempted on Clobber

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:00 pm

It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:33 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!

In this line? :???:

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:41 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
In this line?

I mean don't you know about Cyberverse Ratbat and Rumble?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:49 am

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
In this line?

I mean don't you know about Cyberverse Ratbat and Rumble?

Me thinks you're confusing some releases. Cyberverse has no toys for Ratbat or Rumble, however, Siege does.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:06 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:It'd be nice if they would stock Ratbat and Rumble already, since I cannot find them anywhere!
In this line?

I mean don't you know about Cyberverse Ratbat and Rumble?

Me thinks you're confusing some releases. Cyberverse has no toys for Ratbat or Rumble, however, Siege does.

I think your confusing my sarcasm for a legitimate question.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:01 am

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Superbly tempted on Clobber

I read Cobbler and now I'm hungry. Not a bad option to fill that overpriced Lugnut sized hole on shelves.

by **LE0KING** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:48 pm

I picked up Clobber, and she's totally worth it. Good articulation fun transformation, and the gimmick is totally ignoreable if you don't like it.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:34 pm

LE0KING wrote:I picked up Clobber, and she's totally worth it. Good articulation fun transformation, and the gimmick is totally ignoreable if you don't like it.

Sounds great man, thanks for letting us know! I am really intrigued by the fun transformation you describe.