The Energon Pub

Lord Onixprime wrote:I don't quite get the PCC comparison everyone keeps making, I mean, besides the drones, PCC just used the Energon method of combining.

This has 4 transformable limbs, a step up from PCC.

For me, it's the issue of lanky, overextended connections from the body to the limbs. It looks better on the legs than it does on the arms. Again, it could be to allow the limbs more movement, but looking at them head on, they look a little "off".

That said, I'm still excited about collecting him.

Vortex reminds me of Skyhopper.

Vortex and Blast Off both look great (well, except for the hands in Vortex's feet). I really like the weapons they have and they just have an overall really nice look to them. Still a little sad that Onslaught isn't a Voyager, but oh well. Just got a lot more excited for these guys.

necr0blivion wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:I don't quite get the PCC comparison everyone keeps making, I mean, besides the drones, PCC just used the Energon method of combining.

This has 4 transformable limbs, a step up from PCC.

For me, it's the issue of lanky, overextended connections from the body to the limbs. It looks better on the legs than it does on the arms. Again, it could be to allow the limbs more movement, but looking at them head on, they look a little "off".

That said, I'm still excited about collecting him.

Oh yea I will get it, but Im just not as "amped" up now. You are right on about the arms and legs. Over extended ports, etc, It also looks like the legs in that pose will become loose if not already with 2 diff. points of articulation from what I see. Also the Top of the legs are to small and so is the mid section of Bruticus.

Oh well, I guess there is next year or the year after or 10 years from now when ALL the 3rd party's Gestalts are vastly superior to anything hasbro can get out,lol.

Why could they not do better hands? I mean look at those cruddy hands..... Why couldn't they do possible fingers. If this is the best Hasbro can do with gestalts, then the third parties easily make a better product.

This reminds me of Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace. All this build up and hype with the potential to be totally AWSOME. Then the full reveal and all you want is a lot of Darth Maul coolness and you just get a crap loaded of Jar Jar crapiness.

Urge to kill... Rising.

I'm still super hyped about this thing but I have to say it does look ridiculous. The key points of interest are those giant pegs that stick out near the shoulders. Why can't they just connect straight to the chest like the G1 design?

The chest/head of Bruticus looks great. The arms look like they person taking the picture has never played with a Transformer before. And the legs... Are to be expected.

Still 1st day buy for me but with some personal modifications.

Arms and Thighs are a little skinny.....BUT!
YES, shut up and take my money!
Love WFC and FOC Toys so far, bring on Grimlock, Jazz, Optimus Prime, New Cliffjumper with the new head...etc etc etc. BRING EM ON!!!!!

i dont think the ppl that engineered him knows how to transform him. i will get this thing for sure....but im sure there is more to it then meets the eye.....

First off, I'm ADORING Blast Off. He's with Swindle and Brawl among the better half of the set. With Bruticus, I've looked at concept art, so it seems like Onslaught's hips shouldn't be separated like that. The arms would look better at the sides. My only problems with Vortex is his rotors are oversized and the hands showing from his legs. Otherwise I might just store his rotors when I put him in robot mode.

donnie_707 wrote:i dont think the ppl that engineered him knows how to transform him. i will get this thing for sure....but im sure there is more to it then meets the eye.....

Pictures usually don't do the toys justice. Look at Botcon set pics and whatnot.
*Crossing fingers for the Win*

I do however like what I have seen of the 4 limbs Individual modes, robot and vehicle. Not to happy with Onslaughts separate Bot mode really. Or maybe its his vehicle mode? Just looks off, or that its just too small or missing something is all? The twin cannons perhaps?

Cybershark wrote:Oh yea I will get it, but Im just not as "amped" up now. You are right on about the arms and legs. Over extended ports, etc, It also looks like the legs in that pose will become loose if not already with 2 diff. points of articulation from what I see. Also the Top of the legs are to small and so is the mid section of Bruticus.

Yes, please Hasbro, do NOT let this combiner fall victim to the PCC Shimmies. Or Elvis' pelvis move. Or, just don't let those legs fall inward when posed... ugh!

There have been many, many cases of horrendously mistransformed official pics.
I think the Blast-Off-arm might fold in a bit more, like this:


Regardless, I'm still utterly psyched for this release (though I can't help but wish Vortex was blue/purple and not red/yellow).

El Duque wrote:Added images of Vortex an Blastoff.

That was quick... Vortex looks like a Predacon was trying to disguise itself as a Combaticon. Blast-off... well, I think I like the Brawl and Swindle designs better.

I may not need two of each, after all...

I was so excited for this...

Then I saw it...

Swing and a miss Hasbro, swing and a miss...

Noideaforaname wrote:There have been many, many cases of horrendously mistransformed official pics.
I think the Blast-Off-arm might fold in a bit more, like this:


Regardless, I'm still utterly psyched for this release (though I can't help but wish Vortex was blue/purple and not red/yellow).

Well that is already a small improvement but they would need to do that on the other arm as well as tighten up the hips section, and somehow get rid of the connector pieces at the shoulders. Also do something with that gun or whatever it is in his hand, its a "mess". Im afraid that you can only "hide" so much though,lol

necr0blivion wrote:

Lord Onixprime wrote:I don't quite get the PCC comparison everyone keeps making, I mean, besides the drones, PCC just used the Energon method of combining.

This has 4 transformable limbs, a step up from PCC.

For me, it's the issue of lanky, overextended connections from the body to the limbs. It looks better on the legs than it does on the arms. Again, it could be to allow the limbs more movement, but looking at them head on, they look a little "off".

That said, I'm still excited about collecting him.

This. It's all about the connectors in the arms, that's really all that bugs me.

I'm actually glad they did all the figures in the same relative size/scale. One thing I despised about most G1 combiners was the fact that you had 1 massive 'leader' figure who was way out of scale with his teammates who were teeny tiny bots/vehicles/animals whatever. In G1, the only combiner that got it right IMO was Predaking, who was hands down the best looking in combined form IMO.

I was hoping this FOC combiner would be like that since they seem to limit WFC/FOC toys all to the Deluxe class scale, and they did, it's just those long connectors that bug me, but I suspect all they really need is a bit of third party clip-on shoulder kibble to make them look good, something that should be quite easy to accomplish.

Good effort on Hasbro's part, but yeah it looks a little underwhelming. Still better than a PCC. I hope and feel it will probably look better once someone gets it in-hand, because it's probably mistransformed and Hasbro stock photos always look like crap.

And they got Vortex the completely wrong color, not sure what's up with that...

Megazarak wrote:Um, it doesn't look quite as good as I imagined though it also looks a little mistransformed.

My thoughts exactly...

If the limbs are scout class and not deluxe, then I'll just forget about it.

What's up with Vortex's colors? I don't usually have a problem with a new color scheme, but considering how G1-inspired the other figures are, it really stands out.

Overall though, I like. It's no Fansproject Bruticus, but definitely unique. Consider this one picked up from me :3

I am totally, completely and thoroughly...underwhelmed. There are only 3 of the 5 that I would even consider as having decent alt modes and the whole thing combined looks like Wheelie would stand a chance of kicking its ass. Apparently we got our hopes up just a little too soon. We thought Hasbro was paying attention but this is proof positive that they don't seem to give a ****! I hope they are paying attention to the boards on here so that they realize just how much they lost in sales by screwing something like this up.

I think it looks pretty good.

What happened to those designers in Hasbro? Disappointed again!!!

Holy Apehanger Batman! His hands are below his knees with the elbows bent. Hopefully it's just bad photography/mis-transformation.

Well, Swindle, Brawl, and Blastoff are must buys so I'll probably finish the set anyway