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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:56 am

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I can honestly say that I am ok with beastformers, but I am not the biggest fan. I love the dinobots, and Rhinox is a magnificent transformer, but overall I really don't lean too hard on them. Beast Wars was cool and I loved the series and the characters, but I honestly prefer standard-formers to beastformers. just my feelings :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:29 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I can honestly say that I am ok with beastformers, but I am not the biggest fan. I love the dinobots, and Rhinox is a magnificent transformer, but overall I really don't lean too hard on them. Beast Wars was cool and I loved the series and the characters, but I honestly prefer standard-formers to beastformers. just my feelings :BOT:


Even though I am a Beast Wars kid, I actually preffer more mechanical alt modes over organic ones simply because it works better with the robot aesthetic (doesnt have to be beasts though, I also dislike the cybertronian organic thing they were going for with the first two looks of Movie Megatron :SICK: ). Also, it makes for more interesting transformations (which the first 2 movie megatrons dont have either :SICK: ). I really disliked as a kid how the majority of mammal beast formers used the same parts for the robot and beast limbs. In beast machines, you would just change the head and bam! transformed. I found that quite lame as a 10 year old. None of the transformations I have marvelled at most in my collection are from Beast Wars.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:40 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I can honestly say that I am ok with beastformers, but I am not the biggest fan. I love the dinobots, and Rhinox is a magnificent transformer, but overall I really don't lean too hard on them. Beast Wars was cool and I loved the series and the characters, but I honestly prefer standard-formers to beastformers. just my feelings :BOT:


Even though I am a Beast Wars kid, I actually preffer more mechanical alt modes over organic ones simply because it works better with the robot aesthetic (doesnt have to be beasts though, I also dislike the cybertronian organic thing they were going for with the first two looks of Movie Megatron :SICK: ). Also, it makes for more interesting transformations (which the first 2 movie megatrons dont have either :SICK: ). I really disliked as a kid how the majority of mammal beast formers used the same parts for the robot and beast limbs. In beast machines, you would just change the head and bam! transformed. I found that quite lame as a 10 year old. None of the transformations I have marvelled at most in my collection are from Beast Wars.

The generations beast wars molds did work out pretty well though. Rhinox is my favorite of the bunch. :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:03 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The generations beast wars molds did work out pretty well though. Rhinox is my favorite of the bunch. :BOT:


Same here!

Oh and not that they were all bad in beast machines, but my favourite mold was Tankor and Jetstorm, two non beasts. And that Tankor while not screen accuate is a far better toy than the generations version we got last year.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:58 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The generations beast wars molds did work out pretty well though. Rhinox is my favorite of the bunch. :BOT:


Same here!

Oh and not that they were all bad in beast machines, but my favourite mold was Tankor and Jetstorm, two non beasts. And that Tankor while not screen accuate is a far better toy than the generations version we got last year.



I thought the Generations Tankor was ok! I've got it, granted it's far from screen accurate nor original toy accurate, but I thought it was ok.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:43 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The generations beast wars molds did work out pretty well though. Rhinox is my favorite of the bunch. :BOT:


Same here!

Oh and not that they were all bad in beast machines, but my favourite mold was Tankor and Jetstorm, two non beasts. And that Tankor while not screen accuate is a far better toy than the generations version we got last year.



I thought the Generations Tankor was ok! I've got it, granted it's far from screen accurate nor original toy accurate, but I thought it was ok.


I thought it was pretty spot on for screen accuracy. What in the deco wasnt screen accurate?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:16 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The generations beast wars molds did work out pretty well though. Rhinox is my favorite of the bunch. :BOT:


Same here!

Oh and not that they were all bad in beast machines, but my favourite mold was Tankor and Jetstorm, two non beasts. And that Tankor while not screen accuate is a far better toy than the generations version we got last year.



I thought the Generations Tankor was ok! I've got it, granted it's far from screen accurate nor original toy accurate, but I thought it was ok.


I thought it was pretty spot on for screen accuracy. What in the deco wasnt screen accurate?
The deco isn't what deters Generations Tankor from being show-accurate. It's the altmode. Or rather, it the toy's inability to undergo an impossible-for-reality metamorphosis into the tank mode design of the cartoon model. When Tankor or his drones transformed in the show, they underwent a "morphing" of sorts to convert into a tank mode that the robot mode otherwise could not naturally convert into via practical non-cheating means. It is because the Generations toy chose to go with a realistic, "non-cheating", "actually feasible" philosophy in its transformation that the toy's tank mode ends up being show-inaccurate.

This is not a knock against the toy, but rather an observation of a non-MP toy aiming for practicality and feasibility rather than trying to perform the impossible. And going the route of the former instead of the latter is an understandable (and ought to be the preferred) reason. The cartoon model should have been less cheaty and more reasonable.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:50 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


Yeah, its pretty coo. Hey, you know what wasnt at that preview night?




The technobots :twisted:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:52 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


Yeah, its pretty coo. Hey, you know what wasnt at that preview night?

The technobots :twisted:

You sir are so many words that would be blanked out by this site :-x :HALUC: :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:11 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


Yeah, its pretty coo. Hey, you know what wasnt at that preview night?

The technobots :twisted:

You sir are so many words that would be blanked out by this site :-x :HALUC: :BOT:


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:20 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


Yeah, its pretty coo. Hey, you know what wasnt at that preview night?

The technobots :twisted:

You sir are so many words that would be blanked out by this site :-x :HALUC: :BOT:


:lol:

Oh don't you show up and start laughing here!!!!

Just kidding Screamer, I love you man. glad to see your fiery flame-wreathed face again

What if.....The Technobots are a surprise special to be seen later???? Huh????

Also kidding. they most likely won't happen, but I can still hope!! :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:43 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


Yeah, its pretty coo. Hey, you know what wasnt at that preview night?

The technobots :twisted:

You sir are so many words that would be blanked out by this site :-x :HALUC: :BOT:


:lol:

Oh don't you show up and start laughing here!!!!

Just kidding Screamer, I love you man. glad to see your fiery flame-wreathed face again

What if.....The Technobots are a surprise special to be seen later???? Huh????

Also kidding. they most likely won't happen, but I can still hope!! :BOT:


Yeah, been pretty slow with the super g1 love fest of the recent mp reveals, so I've just been reading the threads.

Also, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we will get the technobots, with a more completely re-shelled scattershot (this one will be the proto-type that fits the play-pattern, a later one could then have a much higher budget allowance) they have a standardized system for combining, they WILL milk it for every f$cking cent it can get, or they aren't a big corporation focused on making money - and if they truly don't, I will actually be speechless.

They probably just want the 'combiner fatigue' or 'mold fatigue' to wear off first.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:47 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


Yeah, its pretty coo. Hey, you know what wasnt at that preview night?

The technobots :twisted:

You sir are so many words that would be blanked out by this site :-x :HALUC: :BOT:


:lol:

Oh don't you show up and start laughing here!!!!

Just kidding Screamer, I love you man. glad to see your fiery flame-wreathed face again

What if.....The Technobots are a surprise special to be seen later???? Huh????

Also kidding. they most likely won't happen, but I can still hope!! :BOT:


Yeah, been pretty slow with the super g1 love fest of the recent mp reveals, so I've just been reading the threads.

Also, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we will get the technobots, with a more completely re-shelled scattershot (this one will be the proto-type that fits the play-pattern, a later one could then have a much higher budget allowance) they have a standardized system for combining, they WILL milk it for every f$cking scent it can get, or they aren't a big corporation focused on making money - and if they truly don't, I will actually be speechless.

They probably just want the 'combiner fatigue' or 'mold fatigue' to wear off first.

I hope so. I want me some damn technobots so I have all the American G1 cartoon vehicle combiners. Plus Computron is my kind o bot: intelligent, even if slow to the uptake :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:03 am

I wonder if we will have to rely on Takara or Hasbro Asia to make a Defensor G2 boxed set ?

It might depend how protective Takara is feeling about Groove's mould.

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I thought the MacDonalds Tankor was pretty accurate he looks mostly right in both modes and isn't elongated like the Generations toy.

Tankor is more practical to make as a toy that say Obsidian is with his spindly fingers.

Hasbro did an OK job with Tankor but he wasn't a toy to get excited about - I have several of them and yet I actually often forget he exists at all.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:16 am

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RAR wrote:I thought the MacDonalds Tankor was pretty accurate he looks mostly right in both modes and isn't elongated like the Generations toy.
McTankor worked backwards compared to Generations Tankor, starting from a show-accurate altmode first instead of a show-accurate robot mode. The robot mode is close, but the arms are extremely thin and the legs are virtually nonexistent by having the feet near-directly connected to the torso. Plus the cannon's attached to the head instead of the shoulder.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:37 pm

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RAR wrote:I thought the MacDonalds Tankor was pretty accurate he looks mostly right in both modes and isn't elongated like the Generations toy.
McTankor worked backwards compared to Generations Tankor, starting from a show-accurate altmode first instead of a show-accurate robot mode. The robot mode is close, but the arms are extremely thin and the legs are virtually nonexistent by having the feet near-directly connected to the torso. Plus the cannon's attached to the head instead of the shoulder.


The Mcdonalds toy was actually looked into as part of Takara's research when coming up with Gnerations Tankor, the more you know.

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Postby It Is Him » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:55 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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The only thing better is if they remade this as the promo poster, and made it totally heavy metal.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:25 am

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It Is Him wrote:That Fort Max poster. It's glorious.


The only thing better is if they remade this as the promo poster, and made it totally heavy metal.


Yeah, but they couldn't do that exactly, cuz then they'd have to release a scorponok too ;)
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:28 am

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It Is Him wrote:That Fort Max poster. It's glorious.


The only thing better is if they remade this as the promo poster, and made it totally heavy metal.


Yeah, but they couldn't do that exactly, cuz then they'd have to release a scorponok too ;)

Which would still be nice..... :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:36 am

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It Is Him wrote:That Fort Max poster. It's glorious.


The only thing better is if they remade this as the promo poster, and made it totally heavy metal.


Yeah, but they couldn't do that exactly, cuz then they'd have to release a scorponok too ;)

Which would still be nice..... :BOT:


Yeah, but it would be an expensive year for you guys if they made them both titan class, and released several in one year, and, let's be honest, no one here would hear the end of it ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:24 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
It Is Him wrote:That Fort Max poster. It's glorious.


The only thing better is if they remade this as the promo poster, and made it totally heavy metal.


Yeah, but they couldn't do that exactly, cuz then they'd have to release a scorponok too ;)

Which would still be nice..... :BOT:


Yeah, but it would be an expensive year for you guys if they made them both titan class, and released several in one year, and, let's be honest, no one here would hear the end of it ;)


There has been worse. Last year, hasbro unveilled a list of 30 exclusive TFs collectors were meant to collect for the 30th anniversary. These were two of them:

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Not only was it 2 titan figures, it was of the same damn character. Interestingly enough, there wasnt much of an uproar or despair, just lack of excitement and dissapointment.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RiddlerJ » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:51 am

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Sky Reign pictures from the NYCC look pretty badass. I'm in love with it. :BOT:


I know other people had to have brought this up.

But if we're not going to get a proper Trypicon (not saying we're not, just that one doesn't seem to be on the horizon) I wonder how a Typticon retool of Sky Lynx would go over. Especially if you give him his own team of limbs.

Full Tilt - Swindle Redeco
Brunt - Brawl redeco
Wipe Out - Breakdown redeco
Fasttrack - Rook redeco
Iguanus - Legends Groove redeco (I know, but his color scheme and reptile theme would fit)

Hasbro probably wouldn't do this but if it was a Botcon box set, I'd snap it up.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:59 am

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The only thing better is if they remade this as the promo poster, and made it totally heavy metal.


Yeah, but they couldn't do that exactly, cuz then they'd have to release a scorponok too ;)

Which would still be nice..... :BOT:


Yeah, but it would be an expensive year for you guys if they made them both titan class, and released several in one year, and, let's be honest, no one here would hear the end of it ;)

Eh, maybe he'll be a part of 2017's stuff. The titan of that year :BOT:
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