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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:00 pm

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Welcome folks, to the Transformers Combiner Wars Discussion MEGA Thread! This thread will be focused on the Combining figures themselves (Voyagers, Deluxes, Legends) while the Leader Class can be discussed here. Anyways, start reading. There's a long road ahead ;)


Autobot032 wrote:The official Transformers YouTube channel has posted a new video from their Designers Desk series, this time focusing on the upcoming Combiner Wars line.

We've included the video embed below:

Published on Nov 10, 2014
Today we meet with Transformers toy designers, Joshua Lamb and John Warden, to talk about Combiner Wars. They'll show you how to swap and combine all-new Legend, Deluxe and Voyager class Generations figures into SUPERION, MENASOR or a Combiner robot from your own imagination!




Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
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Re: Official Transformer Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:05 pm

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Re: Official Transformer Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:09 pm

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Re: Official Transformer Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:10 pm

Yay! May this topic live as long as the discussion revolves around Combiner Wars, and no longer! ;)
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Re: Official Transformer Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:22 pm

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:lol: ive written in code stating that deviations from generations or combiner wars will cause a self destruct ;)
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Re: Official Transformer Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:37 pm

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A conversation started in the wrong place moved to the right one.

gothsaurus wrote:But wow. This digressed from Thrilling 30. Getting back on topic, I WOULD love a new Predaking... but have to say, he'd toward the bottom of my list with the rest of the beasts. At the TOP of my list (besides the announced Superion/Menasor), I'd say...

Devastator
Bruticus (G1)
Defensor
Computron
Raiden
Monstructor
Abominus
Predaking
Piranacon

I hope they add a few extra retools and/or heads to add bonus characters. Having a couple extra Constructicons would be especially nice. (or ex constructicons or Autobot counterparts ie. Hauler, Erector, Gravedigger, Hightower, Buckethead, Quickmix, Grapple, Wide Load, Scoop, Quickmix, Landfill...)


Cobotron wrote:
gothsaurus wrote: But wow. This digressed from Thrilling 30. Getting back on topic, I WOULD love a new Predaking... but have to say, he'd toward the bottom of my list with the rest of the beasts. At the TOP of my list (besides the announced Superion/Menasor), I'd say...


Devastator - This has GOT to be happening. No doubt.
Bruticus (G1)- I wonder. With the over use(not complaining) of FoC, I could see him sit on
the back burner
Defensor - For sure, gotta have more :BOT:s
Computron - Anything for another Tron like bike
Raiden - would be AWESOME, but doubt it
Monstructor - Interesting, but a far reach
Abominus - Good Primus, make this real
Predaking - Would be great, but for know I'm happy with my new G1 reissue. It's a
nostalgia thing
Piranacon - Good Primus, make this real

(Goth, I know this is your wish list, just having fun speculating :D )

I hope they add a few extra retools and/or heads to add bonus characters. Having a couple extra Constructicons would be especially nice. (or ex constructicons or Autobot counterparts ie. Hauler, Erector, Gravedigger, Hightower, Buckethead, Quickmix, Grapple, Wide Load, Scoop, Quickmix, Landfill...)


I have said this twice now, but I love saying it.
I predict with the use of Prime for a Voyager, they will do a :BOT: team. Repainting the Stunticons as classics like Mirage, Sideswipe, etc.
It will come out 4th qt. as a Xmas time box set. :ic$:
Makes me wonder if I should hold off on OP as a single Voyager.


SW's SilverHammer wrote:Actually a combiner Wars Monstructor is a possibility due to possible story relevance. In The Transformers: Robots in Disguise #33, Starscream show Wheeljack the three major combiners teams threats in action at the moment. There's Prowl and the Constructicons on earth, Mototrmaster and the Stunticons who are M.I.A, and Monstructor who's body was never recovered after the events of dark cybertron. The way combiner wars is playing out is to be a veritable arms race, with the stunticons most likely siding with the Decepticons; with Prowl and the Constructicons and monstructor being wild cards, and finally Superion who may either side with the Autobots or Cybertron in general.


gothsaurus wrote:Hey Cobotron, your response was exactly what I was hoping for. Curious what combiners other people are most interested in. Cheers!


Madeus Prime wrote:Tentative guess that we'll get a Prowl figure that is compatible to form the body of a combiner. To homage the events in RID. I'd kill for a Prowlestator


Cobotron wrote:@Goth, SW's SH, and Madeus

It seems that it is all really in IDW's hands. Whatever story they are working on will dictate where this line goes.
I have just started in on IDW books with RID and mtme. Really digging it BTW. I'm not to familiar yet with the "Prowlastator" situation, but from Hasbro's point of view I can't see them going this direction right away. It seems too specific to a probably small percentage of their market.
But, we are talking about a comic book i.e. "soap opera", so they could easily find a way to bring back the missing Constructicon(who?). If the Con-cons have sided with Prowl, maybe the return of said team mate would sway them back to the :CON: .

A Monstructor toy would probably rule out the need for Abominus. :-(
IMO, I would love to see re-imagined versions of Abominus and Piranacon.

We need a mole at IDW. :grin:


There is probably a better/easier/cleaner way to do this, but I don't know it

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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:41 pm

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I'll repost the combiner-related rumor from the other thread:
Sabrblade wrote:Ya'll recall the Leader Ultra Magnus rumor?

Well, the latest from the rumormill is something even bigger:

$150 Titan class Devestator giftset of six Voyagers

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11810163
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11810335

This is same guy who discovered the first image of Hasbro's Masterpiece Sunstorm.

Another user (whose name we might recognize) provides further info:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11811202
http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/10 ... ?p=2730851
http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/10 ... ?p=2730898

Anyone hungry for a grain of salt? ;)
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:47 pm

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I would love a prowlastator but Monstructor is a must, I would be very surprised if he doesn't surface in the comic.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:48 pm

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thanks guys!

alright, someone help me out. im behind in my IDW reading, so what appendage of devastator does prowl become? if this supposed devastator came out as voyagers, i assume we'd need a new prowl voyager to go with it. which sadly, seems unlikely to me.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:50 pm

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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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shajaki wrote:thanks guys!

alright, someone help me out. im behind in my IDW reading, so what appendage of devastator does prowl become? if this supposed devastator came out as voyagers, i assume we'd need a new prowl voyager to go with it. which sadly, seems unlikely to me.


Prowl became the upper torso and head. That's Hook's spot, but he was relocated to the right leg since Scrapper got... well, scrapped.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:56 pm

So are you guys assuming this (rumored) new Devastator is going to be based on the current IDW version? Isn't it just as likely (or more likely) that it'll be an updated version of the original?
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Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:59 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:So are you guys assuming this (rumored) new Devastator is going to be based on the current IDW version? Isn't it just as likely (or more likely) that it'll be an updated version of the original?


I'm guessing update of OG too.
I'm not anti Prowlistator, just don't see it selling to mass audience the way the OG would.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:11 pm

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Cobotron wrote:HEY! The Wolf Pack is here!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Prowl became the upper torso and head. That's Hook's spot, but he was relocated to the right leg since Scrapper got... well, scrapped.
awww... scrapper was always my favorite constructicon.

but. could you imagine the nerdgasm if we got:

-six piece voyager devastator
-hook able to alternate between leg and torso
-seventh piece being a torso prowl

???????????

oh man. theyd have all my monies.
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Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:27 pm

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shajaki wrote:oh man. theyd have all my monies.


Don't they already? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:23 pm

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Prowlastator is unlikely, especially since these will eventually be sold in the Japanese market as well, and the traditional G1 angle is a lot more interesting to Japanese collectors, despite the availability of the IDW stories over there. Although, I wouldn't be shocked if we got SOMETHING to homage the new Devastator, like a swappable gestalt mode head to resemble Prowl. Hasbro has been pouring on the love lately.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:44 pm

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salt salt salt
A voyager size Prowl would be weird, no?
salt salt salt

Maybe there COULD be a legends tie in like Powerglide.

I've been giving Bruticus some thought.
They are already fixing up the repaint/retool wagon.
With the Superion helicopter swap out, and a jeep-esq retool of the SUV swap out for Menasor, we're already 2/5s there.
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Postby Noideaforaname » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:45 pm

All this combiner stuff is very exciting... but I feel like Kre-O has already scratched that itch for me. I mean I already geeked out for Menasor and Superion and Devastator, don't really need to again.


I'd assume a "Prowlvastator" would have a Legends Prowl as an alternate head or helmet that covers it. And maybe if it's all a giftset, sell it as 'Devy VS Prowl', keeping the whole head thing a (easily-guessed) secret.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:56 pm

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Noideaforaname wrote:All this combiner stuff is very exciting... but I feel like Kre-O has already scratched that itch for me. I mean I already geeked out for Menasor and Superion and Devastator, don't really need to again.


I'd assume a "Prowlvastator" would have a Legends Prowl as an alternate head or helmet that covers it. And maybe if it's all a giftset, sell it as 'Devy VS Prowl', keeping the whole head thing a (easily-guessed) secret.


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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:02 pm

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shajaki wrote:oh man. theyd have all my monies.
Don't they already? :lol: :lol:
oh yeah :P

i like where wolfmanJ is going, but now that i think about it it would be more likely that the 3P fellas would give us something to turn a devastator into a prowlestator. which im also down with.
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:21 pm

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Were you just referring to ZeroWolf and me?
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:53 pm

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Cobotron wrote:HEY! The Wolf Pack is here!
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Were you just referring to ZeroWolf and me?


Ya.
I was just being silly because the thread had just started and new folks were showing up.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:09 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Ya.
I was just being silly because the thread had just started and new folks were showing up.

Party on.


Oh, no problem. It's just the first time someone has been excited that I entered a topic! :grin:

I wonder how many Transformers fans are also lycanthrope enthusiasts? There's a lot of conceptual cross-over with transformation and having two forms in one person or body.

In the interest of staying on topic, though, I would guess what we'll get in 2015 for the Combiner Wars will be the Aerialbots, Stunticons, Protectobots, and Combaticons at mass retail. If that 6 voyagers Devastator is a reality, it'll likely be a store exclusive (probably TRU). That's a pretty safe strategy for Hasbro, getting the most iconic combiner teams out there first. If this subline is a hit with the kids, maybe they'll do another round with Technobots and Predacons or somesuch.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:48 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Ya.
I was just being silly because the thread had just started and new folks were showing up.

Party on.


Oh, no problem. It's just the first time someone has been excited that I entered a topic! :grin:

I wonder how many Transformers fans are also lycanthrope enthusiasts? There's a lot of conceptual cross-over with transformation and having two forms in one person or body.

In the interest of staying on topic, though, I would guess what we'll get in 2015 for the Combiner Wars will be the Aerialbots, Stunticons, Protectobots, and Combaticons at mass retail. If that 6 voyagers Devastator is a reality, it'll likely be a store exclusive (probably TRU). That's a pretty safe strategy for Hasbro, getting the most iconic combiner teams out there first. If this subline is a hit with the kids, maybe they'll do another round with Technobots and Predacons or somesuch.


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