The Energon Pub

I guess this is to contrast with the original G2 Megatron which towered over G2 Prime ( which the body itself was just the OG Prime)

o.supreme wrote:I guess this is to contrast with the original G2 Megatron which towered over G2 Prime ( which the body itself was just the OG Prime)

I don't think they thought past just having a redeco of another tank megatron.

CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Sentinel_Primal wrote:CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Whoo-hoo! Keep em comin'! That Wildrider looks fantastic!

I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Whoo-hoo! Keep em comin'! That Wildrider looks fantastic!

I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

Oh, I want new Stunticons. I just want ones that actually combine.

Lore Keeper wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Whoo-hoo! Keep em comin'! That Wildrider looks fantastic!

I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

Oh, I want new Stunticons. I just want ones that actually combine.

I think it's going to work out just fine, but I'll reserve judgement on that front.

Oh hey that CBR article says that Wild Rider and Blitzwing are getting revealed tomorrow.

...oH SHOOT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING WAVE 2 TOMORROW

Sabrblade wrote:Oh boy! Reveals of two figures we've already seen.

We hadn't seen Wildrider yet

Sabrblade wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh boy! Reveals of two figures we've already seen.

We hadn't seen Wildrider yet

We have now, so tomorrow he won't be new.

That's...terrible. Just terrible.

Anyway, the livestream is supposed to be an hour, so there'll be more than just these two revealed (even if that ultimately means 'more figures we've already seen.')

Also, I tried the QR codes on these, and even though they do take you to Transformers.com, they've not yet added the pages.

sol magnus wrote:Anyway, the livestream is supposed to be an hour...

Well technically the TF one starts at 11 EDT, the PR one starts at 12 EDT. I predict it will be closer to 40 minutes, because you know they have to "clear the room" to get ready for the next panel .


I hope all of Legacy wave 2 is revealed and we DO get to see something not leaked by a press website before tomorrow morning, but we shall see. I wouldn't be shocked if all we got was maybe 3 or 4 toys, and the rest is about Mobile Games, other licensed merch etc... nobody cares about, but Hasbro got paid to advertise them, so they will.

I'm not a Stunticons guy but he looks fantastic! Interesting that the promo material for Blitzwing in the CBR piece says nothing about his extra hands...

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

If all of wave 2 is revealed tomorrow, we still have core class shockwave, Tarantulas, Elita 1, Jhiaxus, and Knockout to look forward to. And I suppose we'll see what they do with Soundwave

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.

I have little doubt that this new Legacy Menasor will be a vast improvement over UW/CW, but I just have to resist out of principal. I am perfectly ok with the UW version I have, I do not need another.

..interesting thing I noticed: Wild Rider seems to have the detailing on his arms lifted wholesale from his CW figure.

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

The problem is that Lore Keeper (and I, and a number of others around here) want basically a new CW-style Menasor so the Stunticon cars actually form the limbs, just with better engineering, not Sunbow-accurate "Menasor" (read: Big Motormaster with cars superglued on his limbs), and all the evidence thus far points to this "combiner" being that second option.

o.supreme wrote:

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.

I have little doubt that this new Legacy Menasor will be a vast improvement over UW/CW, but I just have to resist out of principal. I am perfectly ok with the UW version I have, I do not need another.

I really want a UW Superion set, but I'm gunshy because of these new Stunticons, so I feel you there.

I think this Wildrider looks very good. And both modes, too.
Imo he looks better than Dragstrip (relatively speaking).
And yeah that's more of a backpack and kibble than I would've liked, but still overall this is a good sign for the rest of the group.

As I said with Blitzwing, this figure's proportions look great; I just looked at some CW and UW Wildrider images, and while those versions were fine, those lower legs were pretty stumpy.
I also really dig the retro-esque car mode better than the CW version's.

This figure alone is sparking a bit of encouragement for me in that this set may in fact be worth the wait and money.

o.supreme wrote:I have little doubt that this new Legacy Menasor will be a vast improvement over UW/CW, but I just have to resist out of principal. I am perfectly ok with the UW version I have, I do not need another.

I'm considering displaying my UW set as individuals with my other Decepticons...

The big potential dilemma will be if I end up liking all 5 Stunticons but not Menasor.

I think I'll just stick with the Unite Warriors Stunticons. It's not about which is better or worse. I just don't want to spend money on a new one.

I also still like the Scramble City aspect CW has, even if I never use it.

I think these guys will wind up being better than the older ones in every way.

But if they do Devestator they'll have my attention.

Ahead of Tuesday, CBR is giving us a preview of the toy's we'll see tomorrow. Through them, Hasbro has unveiled Legacy deluxe Wild Rider and leader Blitzwing. Since they are a preview for tomorrow that means there is a really good chance we will see the rest of Legacy's second wave. The Blitzwing photos further show us that there was little to no mistransformation going on in the photos we saw earlier and the the blurb does confirm what we all know, his modes are based on the cartoon. Of course, all this may be obvious to some, but many are still struggling with the paradigm shift, mainly because Hasbro never made it clear for all and left it more for us to figure it out as they kept releasing product.

While many have called this generations line "mini mps", Hasbro designers are now using that term openly when presenting and we are seeing what that truly means. Remember, the MP line does not have a strict correlation between price and size, where MP Bumblebee and MP Skids are similarly priced while one is much smaller than the other (one being deluxe sized and the other being voyager sized) and two bots of the same size can have a price difference of over one hundred dollars. None of us question that, but bringing that same logic into a toyline with defined price points, like the generations line, means that toy that have the same height could (and do) end up at different price points. Plus you add the notion of a unified scale, like the MP line, and more focus on animation accuracy than any generations line in the past. Blitzwing is an emblem of this paradigm shift where he truly is a mini MP in that sense. We would not have questioned such slavish G1 accuracy to the point of detriment (according to some) on an MP figure and Hasbro is applying that same logic to this generations version.

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Hasbro has provided CBR with an exclusive first look at the Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider and the Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing figures ahead of their wide reveal tomorrow, Tuesday, April 12. The Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider retails for $24.99 USD, while the Leader Blitzwing retails for $55.99. Both figures are due for release this July and will be available for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse and other retailers starting April 12 at 1 p.m. EST.

Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider

(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $24.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 5.5-inch DELUXE DECEPTICON WILD RIDER robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. WILD RIDER lives up to his name. He’s a bit of a loose cannon. When he hits the road, he drives to destroy!
WILD RIDER action figure converts from robot to sports car mode in 17 steps and comes with 2 Energon blaster accessories. The DECEPTICON WILD RIDER toy also combines as the MENASOR figure’s left leg. Collect other TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY combiner figures to form MENASOR (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing

(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $55.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 7-inch LEADER BLITZWING robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. BLITZWING terrorizes his opponents by switching between his three modes in battle, laughing all the while! The triple changer action figure converts from robot to jet mode in 32 steps and from robot to tank mode in 41 steps. BLITZWING also comes with a sword, 2 blaster accessories and features a rotating turret in tank mode

Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I think this Wildrider looks very good. And both modes, too.
Imo he looks better than Dragstrip (relatively speaking).

I agree

o.supreme wrote:Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.

Maybe it's because people grew up at different times with differnet toys. For anyone who's a fan of the G1 Devastator toy, or the smaller train combiners, frames are just as integral to the idea of a combiner toy. But for those who got into it with Combiner Wars, it might be different.
I'm a power rangers fan so I'm even fine with partsforming. I just like the idea of building a behemoth.

sol magnus wrote:I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

Maybe the wise thing then would be to buy lots of Dragstrips as a short term investment.

Munkky wrote:Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.

I gotta say, that jet mode looks really unapealing in Hasbro's professional photography.