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Razorbeast88 wrote:Pvp mentioned being curious about needlenose being a potential combiner or something down the line. Maybe if retooled into dreadwind?
It also makes pretty much no sense but it looks like he could make up part of the Armada starsaber. I guess with another deluxe jet bot down the line
But it makes no sense for this character to be part of that, and it'd be a ridiculously huge weapon. So.... just me with a dumb idea lol

I kinda like the Windsweeper idea m'self.

sol magnus wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Pvp mentioned being curious about needlenose being a potential combiner or something down the line. Maybe if retooled into dreadwind?
It also makes pretty much no sense but it looks like he could make up part of the Armada starsaber. I guess with another deluxe jet bot down the line
But it makes no sense for this character to be part of that, and it'd be a ridiculously huge weapon. So.... just me with a dumb idea lol

I kinda like the Windsweeper idea m'self.

I dont like either of the ideas I had haha those were just thoughts that popped into my head, I don't support them

Windsweeper does sound like a solid idea

I think since made amends to fans with Legacy Menasor over that pile of garbage from CW it only seems fair that they do right and improve Liokaiser. Maybe someday over that unknown horizon.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I think since made amends to fans with Legacy Menasor over that pile of garbage from CW it only seems fair that they do right and improve Liokaiser. Maybe someday over that unknown horizon.

In other words, you think he's intended as a premold for Hellbat?

And the last few posts suggested Dreadwind and Windsweeper (and no one loves Hasbro's '88 lineup more than myself!), plus Hellbat being a Dassault Rafale opens up the possibilities of Storm Cloud, Skyhopper, MW Tundercracker and Skywarp and BWII Dirge...

Well, in this new mold, Needlenose may finally live up to his function of fashion designer, if that many other 'Cons end up copying his style.

Or did you mean he could become LeoZack, since the torso is the biggest improvement CW LioKaiser begged for? I need to get going on making one out of PotP Starscream, and Jalagar out of...would it make more sense to have a missile-dune-buggy that turns into a big gun than one that tacks onto LioKaiser's butt?

Regardless, given his height for a deluxe, couldn't they have kept him a tad shorter and used the extra plastic to improve ZigZag and Sunbeam within budget? Oh well, he scales great with Spinister, and I can't pass up any '88 update.

Wave 3 sightings but my stores only have the wave 1 Core and Deluxe figures, wave 2 voyager, some Galvatrons, and the respective store exclusives. Studio Series is a little better but that's its own topic. I wound up buying everything online. I'm not entirely sure where the blame lies but I'm getting flashbacks to Earthrise where something similar happened. If history fully repeats itself, a deluxe Legacy assortment will show up at Aldi with no announcement for the holiday season.

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So while wave 3 is just starting to make it's way into some areas. I guess I won't be seeing them at Any of my local stores any time soon

o.supreme wrote:So while wave 3 is just starting to make it's way into some areas. I guess I won't be seeing them at Any of my local stores any time soon

Yeah, my Target has had the same single Elita on the peg for at least a month now. As well as 4-5 Red Cogs and Galvatrons. But between Pulse and Amazon I got all the figures I needed so I'm giving up brick and mortar stores for a while, especially over the holidays.

Actually a little more complicated of a transformation than we thought. Looking forward to getting our hands on him

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Please don't give him any attention.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:So while wave 3 is just starting to make it's way into some areas. I guess I won't be seeing them at Any of my local stores any time soon

Yeah, my Target has had the same single Elita on the peg for at least a month now. As well as 4-5 Red Cogs and Galvatrons. But between Pulse and Amazon I got all the figures I needed so I'm giving up brick and mortar stores for a while, especially over the holidays.

Surprisingly with all the stackable coupons, all the Red Cogs sold at my Targets, but still plenty of old Buzzworthy Terrorsaur, Dinobot, and Kup clogging shelves, and yes Galvatron and Coronation SS ( which is why I have yet to still see Sludge). For some odd reason I was able to sneak in an order on Amazon for Dead End a couple of days ago, but it's always my backup just in case I see it at B&M first, but as you say, I doubt that will be the case.

Could it be that due her color scheme some people are mistaking her for just another Arcee release? lol
I mean we've had a very heavy dose of Arcee lately one right after another while she was still hanging around.

Sabrblade wrote:I've yet to see even a single Elita release at any of my stores. It's still nothing but Wave 1 Deluxes over here.

Same.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I've yet to see even a single Elita release at any of my stores. It's still nothing but Wave 1 Deluxes over here.

Same.

Also the same at my Wal-mart; Full shelves, but full of wave 1 and every Velocitron figure except Cosmos and Hauler. SS Core class Ravage and Shockwave as well.

The above pics I posted were from Target. I've not heard reports of any Walmarts in the United States with Deluxe Legacy Wave 2. It's almost like they opted for Velocitron instead of standard Deluxe wave 2. Also, while Targets do have them, they are reduced to one peg instead of 2 ( can't even get a full case out) because Buzzworthy is clogging up all the other deluxe space with toy deco Terrorsaur and Kup.

In my area wave 2 and wave 3 were sparsely released, but Wa;marts are clogged with Wave 1, and ARE STILL GETTING WAVE ! in NOVEMBER. That's ridiculous. Even for Walmart.

sol magnus wrote:In my area wave 2 and wave 3 were sparsely released, but Wa;marts are clogged with Wave 1, and ARE STILL GETTING WAVE ! in NOVEMBER. That's ridiculous. Even for Walmart.

Same here.

Elita One at 3:00 AM

I've been checking for Minerva daily on walgreens.com the product page that appeared last week is now gone...

o.supreme wrote:I've been checking for Minerva daily on walgreens.com the product page that appeared last week is now gone...

That's really annoying. At no point could you actually buy the figure.

Seems typical for them to do, as happened with a few past releases. What's even further frustrating is that they keep sold out items listed for way longer than needed. I seriously doubt Red Alert is coming back into stock...

So I got my wave 3 deluxes, and I have some thoughts.

Pointblank: this is a surprisingly unique and good figure. For one thing, he is surprisingly big, i think to keep him consistent with Crosshairs since he used a big deluxe too. The arms are forgiveable in person, especially with as nice as he feels. He is solid and a lot of fun. I love the head sculpt. The transformation is logical but has some nice steps to make the car work. And the car mode is really fun. It is really slick and good. And the targetmaster also fits in nicely, looking decent as a gun and working nice in car mode. It is a nice package, I like him a lot. I'd rank him my 2nd favorite of the wave.

Crankcase: This one is also a surprise hit with me. I like him more than I thought, considering he's a Skids retool. There is a lot of new work done on the upper body, enough to make him almost feel new. I like how big and heavy his torso is and looks. He looks muscular, even if i wish his shoulder cannons were bigger. I would have accepted some bigger shoulder guns instead of that little skids handgun. Transformation is a bit clashy, but I think I just need to do it some more. I wish the alt mode was a little more "bossy" for lack of a better term, but he's still good. He is my favorite of the wave at the moment.

Skullgrin: this one is interesting. I like his old Generations toy a lot, and his one isn't really much better than that one. I love the head sculpt, but he feels a little too boxy for my liking, and a little too skinny too. I like all the weapons he has, and they make for some great weapon up stances, but he feels a bit lacking. Transformation is surprisingly complex, and the alt mode could be a little cleaner. I don't not like him, he just doesn't feel as polished as Crankcase and Pointblank. Not bad, but he could have used some improvement. He's my 3rd favorite of the lot.

Dead End: this one disappoints me some. The upper torso transformation is interesting, but the lower body does not like to tab together, in alt mode or in arm armor mode. The lower body is a frustrating affair. I like the robot mode paint work and sculpt as well, but the alt mode, I'm not really a fan of this car. CW and Cyberverse did better with the car mode to me. He's the weakest of the lot to me.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I got my wave 3 deluxes, and I have some thoughts.

Pointblank: this is a surprisingly unique and good figure. For one thing, he is surprisingly big, i think to keep him consistent with Crosshairs since he used a big deluxe too. The arms are forgiveable in person, especially with as nice as he feels. He is solid and a lot of fun. I love the head sculpt. The transformation is logical but has some nice steps to make the car work. And the car mode is really fun. It is really slick and good. And the targetmaster also fits in nicely, looking decent as a gun and working nice in car mode. It is a nice package, I like him a lot. I'd rank him my 2nd favorite of the wave.

With those arms? Really???

Crankcase: This one is also a surprise hit with me. I like him more than I thought, considering he's a Skids retool. There is a lot of new work done on the upper body, enough to make him almost feel new. I like how big and heavy his torso is and looks. He looks muscular, even if i wish his shoulder cannons were bigger. I would have accepted some bigger shoulder guns instead of that little skids handgun. Transformation is a bit clashy, but I think I just need to do it some more. I wish the alt mode was a little more "bossy" for lack of a better term, but he's still good. He is my favorite of the wave at the moment.

Skullgrin: this one is interesting. I like his old Generations toy a lot, and his one isn't really much better than that one. I love the head sculpt, but he feels a little too boxy for my liking, and a little too skinny too. I like all the weapons he has, and they make for some great weapon up stances, but he feels a bit lacking. Transformation is surprisingly complex, and the alt mode could be a little cleaner. I don't not like him, he just doesn't feel as polished as Crankcase and Pointblank. Not bad, but he could have used some improvement. He's my 3rd favorite of the lot.

Dead End: this one disappoints me some. The upper torso transformation is interesting, but the lower body does not like to tab together, in alt mode or in arm armor mode. The lower body is a frustrating affair. I like the robot mode paint work and sculpt as well, but the alt mode, I'm not really a fan of this car. CW and Cyberverse did better with the car mode to me. He's the weakest of the lot to me.

I only have Dead End and haven't opened him as yet. But I'll get back to you.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote: Skullgrin: this one is interesting. I like his old Generations toy a lot, and his one isn't really much better than that one.

Do you think so? Maybe as toys they can be considered equal, but this Skullgrin is much more himself than the original. I appreciated the effort back in the day, but it really is just Straxus with a new head. This is a true mixture of Skullgrin's Pretender shell and his inner robot mode. As someone who had the original I really appreciate this new take. It's a shame the Autobot Pretenders are so vanilla. Maybe we'd see more of them if they had more interesting shells.

As a toy ... I don't get the rubber plastic and it weakens it overall.