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william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point.

Even if Peacemaker was included as a battlemaster mold?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point.

Even if Peacemaker was included as a battlemaster mold?

No doubt, as long as it's sold as a "voyager class" toy. By comparison, we have Blaster being sold in voyager class with voyager height, complexity, and mass along with a casette that is more complex than what we got in Siege. The voyager pointblank being imagined here would have been ripped to shreds by this community.
The only way these things have been pallatable have been as an exclusive like Greenlight or SG Flamewar, since they are sold as a 2 pack, with one figure being a deluxe, with their own individual 2 pack pricepoint (which may be close to a voyager price point). But then there would have been an uproar about a new mold being an exclusive. Looking at every single option, the best would be a deluxe with a targetmaster sold apart in another class and the second best option is what we got.

The upcoming Legacy Evolution Animated Prowl figure is getting a lot of attention since it is the first Animated toy to be "G1-ified", giving us a taste of what is to come in this line. We have comparisons to the original Animated Prowl figure showing that this new one has far more articulation and also an alt mode that is not as clean or cohesive. We also have a review. A fun new detail we learn through all this is that like with G1 Wreack Gar, this Prowl's head is also the motorcycle dashboard. The review comes from PrimevsPrime.

If he had been decoed differently and called someone else, it would be easier to give him a pass. He would be a good transforming toy. But as Animated Prowl, he comes up short (literally and figuratively.) He's not a failure, but I can't get over his stockiness and that terrible face. The bike isn't sleek or streamlined and for some reason those handlebars in robot mode really bug me. I get he's supposed to be "G1-ified" but they managed to ruin it much like they did Arcee and Bulkhead. He's adequate at best. For a casual fan he'll do the job of representing the character, but as a fan of the show and that character in particular, I'm disappointed.

Prowl looks neat and fun. I'll totally pick him up if that wave ever comes to Australia (so I'm never gonna pick him up, **** epic).

Rodimus Prime wrote:If he had been decoed differently and called someone else, it would be easier to give him a pass. He would be a good transforming toy. But as Animated Prowl, he comes up short (literally and figuratively.) He's not a failure, but I can't get over his stockiness and that terrible face. The bike isn't sleek or streamlined and for some reason those handlebars in robot mode really bug me. I get he's supposed to be "G1-ified" but they managed to ruin it much like they did Arcee and Bulkhead. He's adequate at best. For a casual fan he'll do the job of representing the character, but as a fan of the show and that character in particular, I'm disappointed.

The handlebars really bug me too

I'll say that again: nice toy, shame for the missing samurai armor.

Still I have a feeling that sooner or later we'll see this mold repurposed as a full-fledged G1 character, such as Override.

I'm conflicted. Looks alright. Is too short. I know why thr back side kibble is there. But the face... Prowl smiles?

I like him, and the fact that he’s a bit shorter actually adds a bit to the appeal since he is a motorcycle after all.

That Prowl look perfect for me.

I'll be sure to get him once it's out.

The wait is over...

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point. That alone makes me glad pointblank was sold as a deluxe, compromised as he may be. Plus there are more deluxe slots than voyager slots for a given year.

Well, I DID was pissed at "voyager" Override. Once in hand, he felt like a deluxe through and through.

Still, thinking about it, I wonder how Override would have been trimmed down to a deluxe?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point. That alone makes me glad pointblank was sold as a deluxe, compromised as he may be. Plus there are more deluxe slots than voyager slots for a given year.

Well, I DID was pissed at "voyager" Override.

..."did was"?

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point. That alone makes me glad pointblank was sold as a deluxe, compromised as he may be. Plus there are more deluxe slots than voyager slots for a given year.

Well, I WAS pissed at "voyager" Override.

..."did was"?

Sigh.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point. That alone makes me glad pointblank was sold as a deluxe, compromised as he may be. Plus there are more deluxe slots than voyager slots for a given year.

Well, I WAS pissed at "voyager" Override.

..."did was"?

Sigh.

English isn't your 1st language, it's understandable. I guess some people might have thought you were from the Southern US. But you're a Quebecer.

As for your question about override, I don't think anything could have been done. The voyager price was for the engineering, and if they skimped on that it would have crippled the figure. Or made it a borderline 2-step simpleton.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point. That alone makes me glad pointblank was sold as a deluxe, compromised as he may be. Plus there are more deluxe slots than voyager slots for a given year.

Well, I WAS pissed at "voyager" Override.

..."did was"?

Sigh.

English isn't your 1st language, it's understandable. I guess some people might have thought you were from the Southern US. But you're a Quebecer.

As for your question about override, I don't think anything could have been done. The voyager price was for the engineering, and if they skimped on that it would have crippled the figure. Or made it a borderline 2-step simpleton.

Plus, Override is equal in size to the likes of Siege Springer and Earthrise Grapple.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A voyager pointblank would have passed off fans to no end with all them condemning Hasblow for selling a deluxe at a voyager price point. That alone makes me glad pointblank was sold as a deluxe, compromised as he may be. Plus there are more deluxe slots than voyager slots for a given year.

Well, I WAS pissed at "voyager" Override.

..."did was"?

Sigh.

English isn't your 1st language, it's understandable. I guess some people might have thought you were from the Southern US. But you're a Quebecer.

As for your question about override, I don't think anything could have been done. The voyager price was for the engineering, and if they skimped on that it would have crippled the figure. Or made it a borderline 2-step simpleton.

Sometime I want to write something, then I change my mind, but I forget to delete some words resulting in weirdness.

As for Override, "deluxinging" it would have been sabotage.

Sowndwave76 wrote:The wait is over...

got him on preorder, and just hoping I can find Dead End and Motermaster at a store at a time when I can afford to get them. Motormaster just refuses to be available anywhere when I have the money to get him.

grimdragon2001 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:The wait is over...

got him on preorder, and just hoping I can find Dead End and Motermaster at a store at a time when I can afford to get them. Motormaster just refuses to be available anywhere when I have the money to get him.

On my end, the wait is FAR from over. I'll have to wait until March for my Amazon.ca preorder to unlock.

man this one just hits different. I love it. this is making animated fit into g-1 and is leaps and bounds better then what they did with prime bulkhead and arcee. but, I still prefer the original, so will probably pass on this.

though I do find some humor in this ones existence. Remember how during animated's run, how many g1 and (and beast wars) were getting re-imagined in the animated style? full reverse!


I still want animated season 4 though

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Sowndwave76 wrote:The wait is over...

Yes I got breakdown as well from Amazon today. Legacy "Meh"nasor is finally complete. Just wondering why you got two Breakdowns?

o.supreme wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:The wait is over...

Yes I got breakdown as well from Amazon today. Legacy "Meh"nasor is finally complete. Just wondering why you got two Breakdowns?

He got 2 of each, I think. Possibly for display in each mode?

If I had the money to spend on them, I would get 2 of each, 1 for a group shot and 1 for Menasor.

o.supreme wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:The wait is over...

Yes I got breakdown as well from Amazon today. Legacy "Meh"nasor is finally complete. Just wondering why you got two Breakdowns?

Well, it boils down to a handful of reasons:

This is my last full year of collecting. Right now, SS86 Swoop is the only figure I know I'm getting in 2024. Part of the reason I decided to get two copies of these guys is because of how much I'm passing on from Legacy (and now, Legacy Evolution).
Seeing Wild Rider (both modes) after initially being letdown by Dragstrip was an encouraging boost with my want of this group.
An even bigger boost was Motormaster. After seeing him, and even the then "skeleton" of Menasor, I was all-in.
When he became available for preorder, Target really helped me make the decision when a promotion (a couple old giftcards, and my Redcard) allowed me to snag two copies for roughly $110.
At that time, getting a second copy of Dragstrip was super easy, and it wasn't much more effort to get another Wild Rider.
I made a personal vow about two years ago that I wasn't going to buy any more figures that would end up stored away in a lidded container. Everything gets displayed, and I'll create a custom diorama for every shelf.
Because I don't have a huge collection, I have two vacant shelves, perfect for these 5 figures in their alt modes. It's also worked out that these are lower shelves, which will work for bot modes, but will be an ideal higher angle to view the vehicle modes.
This next reason isn't anything major, but it definitely factored in that I like Decepticons over Autobots.
Then lastly, for me this is a really solid release by Hastak.
The handful of things I wish were different about individual figures and the combined form are basically non-issues in the grand scheme. But I'm stoked to have an incredibly good (imo) Menasor, and a group of characters I really like to have as individual figures.
Which by the way, other than my Sharkticons, will be the only figures I ever have displayed in alt modes. It will be nice to periodically switch them back and forth (since I rarely transform any of my figures).

So a lot of this decision was good fortune and just multiple good things aligning.

I do have a second copy of Dead End and the Menasor upgrade kit coming from TFSource.
All of this together is definitely a highlight of my last full year of being in the game.
But honestly, if I could get Snarl, Swoop, Shrapnel and Bombshell tomorrow, I'd wait for my stack from TFSource to arrive, then call it good and bow out.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to have SS86 Ratchet, Hound, and Brawn (and L.E. Beachcomber).
But do I need them in my collection? Nope.

Stupid question, can people still find the other four Stunticons in stores easily with Breakdown releasing?