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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:36 pm

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Add another one to the Masterpiece rumormill.

TakaraTomy just posted this Tweet, and it's making some people think that it could be hinting at the next Beast Wars MP being Rattle (Rattrap).

Of course, it could just be nothing. But if it is just nothing, then it's a pretty random thing for Takara to Tweet about.

The message itself simply says "Good morning! Thank you also for today!" with the last two syllables of the message (masu) edited to read instead as the English word "mouse" ("mausu") in order to make a pun. This is then followed by a textual art graphic of a mouse and a screencap of Season 1 Rattrap.

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So, grain of salt and all that jazz.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:49 pm

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Yet, if true, I'd be onboard with that! Let's see how they handle one of the harder figures for show accuracy.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:53 pm

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It'd be very interesting to see for sure
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:11 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Add another one to the Masterpiece rumormill.

TakaraTomy just posted this Tweet, and it's making some people think that it could be hinting at the next Beast Wars MP being Rattle (Rattrap).

Of course, it could just be nothing. But if it is just nothing, then it's a pretty random thing for Takara to Tweet about.

The message itself simply says "Good morning! Thank you also for today!" with the last two syllables of the message (masu) edited to read instead as the English word "mouse" ("mausu") in order to make a pun. This is then followed by a textual art graphic of a mouse and a screencap of Season 1 Rattrap.

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So, grain of salt and all that jazz.


They hinted at MP Cheetor with even less than that. there was the outline of a cheetah on a logo/ button on the Takara website and he turned out to be the next.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:45 pm

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So if The Vermin is the Next MP, it could mean Leo Convoy wasn't a default selection for MP Beast Wars. But, perhaps the start of a MP BW Second subline? :-?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:49 pm

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Rattrap will be cool, and probably a lot cheaper and smaller than a transmetal version for MP Dinobot to ride on. Not sure about potential whisker damages like with the cat bots but it should still be more acceptable that fragile groins.

Also already wondering what accessories he will have to bump up the price on him, maybe a sound box or something.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:21 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So if The Vermin is the Next MP, it could mean Leo Convoy wasn't a default selection for MP Beast Wars. But, perhaps the start of a MP BW Second subline? :-?

I dont quite follow. Lio Convoy has an MP number same as the other beast wars MPs, the G1 MPs and Star Sabre. I definitely think of him as a one off akin to star sabre. Having rattrap further confirms that for me.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:22 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So if The Vermin is the Next MP, it could mean Leo Convoy wasn't a default selection for MP Beast Wars. But, perhaps the start of a MP BW Second subline? :-?
More likely because he's a Convoy and this is the 35th anniversary of the brand. Takara likes celebrating anniversary years with Convoys/Supreme Commanders. ;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:40 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:42 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So if The Vermin is the Next MP, it could mean Leo Convoy wasn't a default selection for MP Beast Wars. But, perhaps the start of a MP BW Second subline? :-?

I dont quite follow. Lio Convoy has an MP number same as the other beast wars MPs, the G1 MPs and Star Sabre. I definitely think of him as a one off akin to star sabre. Having rattrap further confirms that for me.



Sabrblade wrote:More likely because he's a Convoy and this is the 35th anniversary of the brand. Takara likes celebrating anniversary years with Convoys/Supreme Commanders. ;)


I see your point. I had assumed Takara was adding Leo to the Beast Line, as the next standard entry after Blackarachnia. I didn't consider him as a One off, like Star Saber. Which is actually quite annoying by the same token. As although I'm not particularly interested in SS or another Convoy/Prime, I would have been interested in MP versions of their antagonists... :(


blackeyedprime wrote:Rattrap will be cool, and probably a lot cheaper and smaller than a transmetal version for MP Dinobot to ride on. Not sure about potential whisker damages like with the cat bots but it should still be more acceptable that fragile groins.

Also already wondering what accessories he will have to bump up the price on him, maybe a sound box or something.


Season One Rattrap is carried by Airazor in her alt-mode, so no one is really riding him.

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These should give you an idea of the scale we should be expecting. As far as accessories go? Demolition charges in his forearms? Something from 'A Better Mousetrap'? The Maximal chip from 'Double Jeopardy'?? Stuff like that.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:47 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Leo
Lio. As in "Lion minus the N".
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:15 pm

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Poor Rhinox may be the last of the original 4/5 Maximals to be done then, poor guy. But he got a super great T30 toy, so it's all OK for now. I'm guessing if Rattrap is next he would price out somewhere around Blackarachnia
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:06 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Leo
Lio. As in "Lion minus the N".


1) Initially, I thought 'Leo' as in the star sign. Which still makes sense, but I did learn this wasn't the case.

2) Auto-correct doesn't :roll: I have the same issue writing The Rough Draft. Wherein the A-C changes Iguanus into 'Iguanas'...
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Bigger Higher Quality Images of Takara Tomy Transformers MP 19 Smokescreen

Postby Stargrave » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:00 am

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Thanks to new pics posted to Hasbro Pulse we have some larger higher resolution images of the new Takara Tomy Transformers MP-19 Smokescreen! We also get a great product break down on the site which is mirrored below.

This pre-order item will be available to ship on approx 01.26.2020, and must be pre-ordered by 7/30/2019. The price tag is $79.99.

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"The Transformers Masterpiece MP-19+ Smokescreen figure was imported directly from Japan in its original packaging with Japanese-language instructions, featuring authentic Takara Tomy design and deco. Perfect for collectors seeking the ultimate Transformers experience, this figure showcases the Cybertron Divisionary Tactitian with premium deco and detail inspired by the Transformers G1 animated series. This re-release features details and accessories on both robot and vehicle modes that are more accurate to the G1 animation.
MP-19+ Smokescreen includes a Smoke Effect that was not included in previous version, 2 interchangeable cartoon-inpsired face expressions, a Disruptor Rifle, and 2 Jamming Launchers. The fully-jointed figure features highly complex conversion from robot to sports car mode.
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Authentic Takara Tomy MP-19+ Smokescreen, as sold in Japan, with original packaging and Japanese-language instructions
This premium Smokescreen figure is fully jointed and highly articulated
This MP-19+ Smokescreen re-release features detailed deco and accessories now more accurate to the Transformers G1 animated series
Figure converts from robot to sports car mode. The original Nissan Fairlady 280Z-T mode of MP-19 Smokescreen has been modified in this re-release to better match animation
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:03 am

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Interesting, BBTS has it in-stock first quarter 2020
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby transformers_va » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:44 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Interesting, BBTS has it in-stock first quarter 2020

Hasbro pulse says, "This pre-order item will be available to ship on approx 01.26.2020." and to pre-order by 7/30/2019
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:09 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Interesting, BBTS has it in-stock first quarter 2020

Hasbro pulse says, "This pre-order item will be available to ship on approx 01.26.2020." and to pre-order by 7/30/2019


That makes perfect sense, thank you
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:49 am

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Sabrblade wrote:More likely because he's a Convoy and this is the 35th anniversary of the brand. Takara likes celebrating anniversary years with Convoys/Supreme Commanders. ;)


I see your point. I had assumed Takara was adding Leo to the Beast Line, as the next standard entry after Blackarachnia. I didn't consider him as a One off, like Star Saber. Which is actually quite annoying by the same token. As although I'm not particularly interested in SS or another Convoy/Prime, I would have been interested in MP versions of their antagonists... :(
According to this, Lio Convoy is considered a part of Takara's way of celebrating the 35th anniversary, along with the Gold Convoy Statue and other celebratory things.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:51 am

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Ah, I see. A real shame, much like MP Star Saber :(
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:58 am

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Posting this as a general precaution to anyone concerned.

If you come across the following image being touted around (like it is here) as a teaser for a potential Masterpiece 3.0 take on Starscream, do not be fooled. For this is not a MP 3.0 Starscream teaser, rather it is the original teaser image for the very first Masterpiece Starscream from back in 2006.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:29 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:49 pm

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Good. The cartoon pistol was a case of animation model error.

I'm hoping the next MP will be of ROTF Jetfire, to make up for the Studio Series version. That or a real Masterpiece Movie Ironhide to replace the marginally-better-articulated knockoff of the DOTM Leader-class toy.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:09 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Good. The cartoon pistol was a case of animation model error.

I'm hoping the next MP will be of ROTF Jetfire, to make up for the Studio Series version. That or a real Masterpiece Movie Ironhide to replace the marginally-better-articulated knockoff of the DOTM Leader-class toy.


I agree on Ironslide, but Jetfire? I think his Studio Series figure is so good, it can last years without an update. I mean, what is there to make up for on that figure?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby TulioDude » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:10 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Good. The cartoon pistol was a case of animation model error.

I'm hoping the next MP will be of ROTF Jetfire, to make up for the Studio Series version. That or a real Masterpiece Movie Ironhide to replace the marginally-better-articulated knockoff of the DOTM Leader-class toy.

I hope if thats the case,that they can do a Jetifre toy without it having to combine to Masterpiece Movie Optimus Prime,so the vehicle mode and robot mode can have more focus.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:00 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Good. The cartoon pistol was a case of animation model error.

I'm hoping the next MP will be of ROTF Jetfire, to make up for the Studio Series version. That or a real Masterpiece Movie Ironhide to replace the marginally-better-articulated knockoff of the DOTM Leader-class toy.


I agree on Ironslide, but Jetfire? I think his Studio Series figure is so good, it can last years without an update. I mean, what is there to make up for on that figure?
What is there to make up for on that figure, you say?
TulioDude wrote:I hope if thats the case,that they can do a Jetifre toy without it having to combine to Masterpiece Movie Optimus Prime,so the vehicle mode and robot mode can have more focus.
That's what. He's not quite as badly off as the original in robot mode (because he's not having to lug around the stupid speaker and battery box) but he's still gimped from being shoehorned into combining with Optimus (And don't go "But they combined in the movie" because they didn't; Ratchet and Jolt kitbashed Jetfire's corpse. Saying they combined is like saying Scrapmetal combined with Movie 1 Megatron to make ROTF Megatron). And his vehicle mode looks to be even worse off than the 2009 toy's.
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