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Show-wise, Tigatron is way bigger than Cheetor in robot mode.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Whereas the build of a Tiger is bulkier than a Cheetah, so it will be interesting to see how they hide that extra mass and leave them looking superficially similar in Bot Mode.
Back on topic, how long until we see this guy? The Megatron mold is too expensive for them to only use once after all....
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back on topic, how long until we see this guy? The Megatron mold is too expensive for them to only use once after all....
ScottyP wrote:Show-wise, Tigatron is way bigger than Cheetor in robot mode.
ScottyP wrote:
Beast Wars is a little inconsistent with scale on purpose with the shot looking good taking precedence over scale, so sometimes it's even more pronounced!
ScottyP wrote:I'd love a T-Wrecks. Using precedent, it won't happen since T-Wrecks was a Hasbro release and I'd expect something like a "toy deco" in very light purple as the redeco.
However, it's a crazy new era without rules in the MP lineup so T-Wrecks is what should happen!
william-james88 wrote:Why can't it be the reverse:
Like, this Megatron is expensive because they they won't reuse the mold.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:Why can't it be the reverse:
Like, this Megatron is expensive because they they won't reuse the mold.
Because the MP Seekers, Datsun brothers, Lambor brothers etc etc exist and more pertinently to MP Beast Wars, MP Shadow Panther exists.
They have known how to recoup the expense of any mold for as long as the series has existed. Rip out the electronics and instantly they have two immediate (and cheaper to reproduce) redecos of Dinobot and Megatron, in Grimlock and T-Wrecks respectively.
Without any real effort at all, they are free to re-release the two most expensive figures of the Beast Wars line to date. From a business standpoint, how could they not capitalise on that opportunity?
Fluttershy accessory confirmed!AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True, Maximo. He is bigger though, so even though they might look of the same [in universe] Cat Bot mold, if Tigatron were a larger version, they might get more creative with it IE The tiger head on his chest might not be fake, but integrate the real Beast Mode head. Differences like that, previously unachievable with MP Cheetor, for whatever reason. Plus of course, Tigatron did have one extra Cheetor didn't...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Fluttershy accessory confirmed!AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True, Maximo. He is bigger though, so even though they might look of the same [in universe] Cat Bot mold, if Tigatron were a larger version, they might get more creative with it IE The tiger head on his chest might not be fake, but integrate the real Beast Mode head. Differences like that, previously unachievable with MP Cheetor, for whatever reason. Plus of course, Tigatron did have one extra Cheetor didn't...
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yet MP Sunstorm, Acidstorm etc exist today.
Takara did their Sunstorm first.william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yet MP Sunstorm, Acidstorm etc exist today.
Both Hasbro initiatives. And Takara never did release their own version of Acid Storm.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Takara did their Sunstorm first.william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yet MP Sunstorm, Acidstorm etc exist today.
Both Hasbro initiatives. And Takara never did release their own version of Acid Storm.
And with all of the extra MP-11 accessories that Hasbro MP Sunstorm lacked.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Takara did their Sunstorm first.william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yet MP Sunstorm, Acidstorm etc exist today.
Both Hasbro initiatives. And Takara never did release their own version of Acid Storm.
Thanks, good to know.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cheetor and Tigatron are the only characters in Beast Wars who are definitely in the correct scale to the life form they have adopted as a beast mode, since Cheetor specifically was seen near a real cheetah in the pilot episode. As a result, Cheetor and Tigatron have the odd distinction of being the yardstick by which other Beast Wars characters' scale inconsistencies can be measured.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Some BW molds already have their limits. Optimus Primal, other than the "burning" variant, hasn't got anywhere else to go.
ZeroWolf wrote:*looks at the face paint of that Primal redeco*
Huh, who knew Primal was a Bowie fan.
To be a little fair, his mastermindedness didn't get fully realized in the show until about two years after the original Ultra class toy was released. Watching just the first season by itself, Megatron had no long term plans or machinations by all appearances, and was much more comical a character than the Machiavellian Bond Villain that he would become in the second and third seasons.Jumpstart1083 wrote:Looks freaking gorgeous...
Although they're just matching the original tech specs, I never understood the "9" intelligence stat though, considering he's easily the most "cunning, yyeessss" Megatron ever. His intelligence should be like, 11! He easily outclassed Primal in intelligence. And, if anything, it would have made more sense to put the "9" in speed since he was more of a bulky Rhinox-like fighter than a quick moving Dinobot. TOY RUINED!!! Just kidding. =P
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:He looks really good and I expect to see a dispatch notice from Kapow... any day now.
It's funny but I am glad he is out of the way now. I've mentioned before but I don't like Megatron's Season One design. There was no cohesion or uniformity to the aesthetic, just random lines and colour patches. Which is why, in contrast, I think Megatron's Transmetal design is one of the best in the entire series.
As for MP Beast Wars, I'm more interested now in what comes next, MP Terrorsaur, Rhinox, Tarantulas etc
Sabrblade wrote:To be a little fair, his mastermindedness didn't get fully realized in the show until about two years after the original Ultra class toy was released. Watching just the first season by itself, Megatron had no long term plans or machinations by all appearances, and was much more comical a character than the Machiavellian Bond Villain that he would become in the second and third seasons.Jumpstart1083 wrote:Looks freaking gorgeous...
Although they're just matching the original tech specs, I never understood the "9" intelligence stat though, considering he's easily the most "cunning, yyeessss" Megatron ever. His intelligence should be like, 11! He easily outclassed Primal in intelligence. And, if anything, it would have made more sense to put the "9" in speed since he was more of a bulky Rhinox-like fighter than a quick moving Dinobot. TOY RUINED!!! Just kidding. =P
Not to mention that the original Ultra class toy was originally meant to represent G1 Megatron in a new body, and G1 Megs wasn't exactly a genius back in most of the 1980s fiction.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Some BW molds already have their limits. Optimus Primal, other than the "burning" variant, hasn't got anywhere else to go. Cheetor has one more variant that is perhaps too unlikely to actually happen, in Nightprowler:
Rhinox is a one and done, as is Airazor. The Spider Bots are just a pair. The rest have some potential to mine and that isn't uncommon knowledge.
Oh and, as per earlier discussion of scale, specifically regarding the Cat Bots, this little nugget of knowledge from the Wiki:Cheetor and Tigatron are the only characters in Beast Wars who are definitely in the correct scale to the life form they have adopted as a beast mode, since Cheetor specifically was seen near a real cheetah in the pilot episode. As a result, Cheetor and Tigatron have the odd distinction of being the yardstick by which other Beast Wars characters' scale inconsistencies can be measured.
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