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Huh that's clever, but why is it blue? Shouldn't it be red slash purple?

ZeroWolf wrote:Huh that's clever, but why is it blue? Shouldn't it be red slash purple?

I thought the exact same thing?

carytheone wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Huh that's clever, but why is it blue? Shouldn't it be red slash purple?

I thought the exact same thing?

Maybe it's less "Autobot" and "Decepticon" colors and more colors representative of each character. Blast Off has purple in his deco, Repugnus has red in his deco, and Punch has blue and red in his deco.

Of course hes out of stock, one of the few figures i was for sure going to buy but now im starting to think ill never get him.

ZeroWolf wrote:Huh that's clever, but why is it blue? Shouldn't it be red slash purple?

The Decepticon symbol has been blue in some series, such as Cybertron (not that the toys got that right). And it might have been done for better contrast when printing it.

Found a countergun for P/CP last night (saw today that Carytheone's using it for Battletrap. I like when figures come with extra random guns, especially in black.)

You made Punch/Counterpunch look like an absolute badass. I love it! He's such a cool character in concept yet sadly he's mostly been relegated to being some 'novelty gimmick late G1 guy'.

Thanks! He's my favourite figure of 2018 so far. The "Counterpunch" form is especially nice. It would have been interesting to see more of the character on the show.. but they had only that one last mini-series.

Cyberpath wrote:Found a countergun for P/CP last night (saw today that Carytheone's using it for Battletrap. I like when figures come with extra random guns, especially in black.)

Ha, I considered stealing that gun for CP (it's been making the rounds on weaponless bots) and you've confirmed I should definitely do just that.

carytheone wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Found a countergun for P/CP last night (saw today that Carytheone's using it for Battletrap. I like when figures come with extra random guns, especially in black.)

Ha, I considered stealing that gun for CP (it's been making the rounds on weaponless bots) and you've confirmed I should definitely do just that.

Where does it come from?

Cyberpath wrote:Thanks! He's my favourite figure of 2018 so far. The "Counterpunch" form is especially nice. It would have been interesting to see more of the character on the show.. but they had only that one last mini-series.

Now if only they brought headmasters over as the true season 4...

Skritz wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Found a countergun for P/CP last night (saw today that Carytheone's using it for Battletrap. I like when figures come with extra random guns, especially in black.)

Ha, I considered stealing that gun for CP (it's been making the rounds on weaponless bots) and you've confirmed I should definitely do just that.

Where does it come from?

LG13 / Combiner Wars Megatron.

carytheone wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Found a countergun for P/CP last night (saw today that Carytheone's using it for Battletrap. I like when figures come with extra random guns, especially in black.)

Ha, I considered stealing that gun for CP (it's been making the rounds on weaponless bots) and you've confirmed I should definitely do just that.

I suddenly remembered I had this in a drawer. (LG13's role was done with the release of MP-36 so I kind of forgot about him. )

Just so it's clear, y'all do know that Punch's car kibble does lock into place on each of his shoulders, right?

Sabrblade wrote:Just so it's clear, y'all do know that Punch's car kibble does lock into place on each of his shoulders, right?

Yes, but it doesn't tab.

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just so it's clear, y'all do know that Punch's car kibble does lock into place on each of his shoulders, right?

Yes, but it doesn't tab.

Yes it does. The little holes go in the little tabs.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just so it's clear, y'all do know that Punch's car kibble does lock into place on each of his shoulders, right?

Yes, but it doesn't tab.

Yes it does. The little holes go in the little tabs.

I know, but it doesn't fit. His arm came off trying, and then the shoulder.

So I finally filed the tab a little bit. This thing had annoyed since day one -- but not enough to do it till just now.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Thanks! He's my favourite figure of 2018 so far. The "Counterpunch" form is especially nice. It would have been interesting to see more of the character on the show.. but they had only that one last mini-series.

Now if only they brought headmasters over as the true season 4...

Meh. What would have been better would've been Griffin-Bacal not screwing them out of making an actual season rather than a glorified miniseries. The Headmasters is iffy, in part due to the delay on Japan getting the movie. It has some good ideas (such as the Transtector concept) and moments, but it also has a lot of flaws. It's not any better animated than The Rebirth, the Autobots - the new ones, even, not just the "Last year's toy" ones - are incompetent a lot of the time even by cartoon standards, Optimus is killed back off in a sacrifice to save Cybertron, Cybertron is destroyed for no good reason (invalidating that sacrifice and all past efforts to save it), Mars is blown up for no good reason, and honestly it has a bunch of the same problems that Super Link/Energon would have years later. The best that can be said of it IMO is it kept the brand's clout with retailers in good standing in Japan.

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just so it's clear, y'all do know that Punch's car kibble does lock into place on each of his shoulders, right?

Yes, but it doesn't tab.

Yes it does. The little holes go in the little tabs.

I know, but it doesn't fit.

They fit fine on mine. Been plugged in ever since the day I opened up my figure.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just so it's clear, y'all do know that Punch's car kibble does lock into place on each of his shoulders, right?

Yes, but it doesn't tab.

Yes it does. The little holes go in the little tabs.

I know, but it doesn't fit.

They fit fine on mine. Been plugged in ever since the day I opened up my figure.

Mine were tight but after a few times they tab on and off just fine. I have seen multiple people complaining about them being very tight and causing stress marks though.

Tabbed, they kind of hinder some of the articulation though. The "Counterpunch" persona/form definitely got the better shoulder deal.

This line has had issues with figures having overly thick or long pegs and tabs. Like Starscream - on mine at least, the pegs on his inner leg panels were so long that they kept his legs from tucking together properly in jet mode.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Thanks! He's my favourite figure of 2018 so far. The "Counterpunch" form is especially nice. It would have been interesting to see more of the character on the show.. but they had only that one last mini-series.

Now if only they brought headmasters over as the true season 4...

Meh. What would have been better would've been Griffin-Bacal not screwing them out of making an actual season rather than a glorified miniseries. The Headmasters is iffy, in part due to the delay on Japan getting the movie. It has some good ideas (such as the Transtector concept) and moments, but it also has a lot of flaws. It's not any better animated than The Rebirth, the Autobots - the new ones, even, not just the "Last year's toy" ones - are incompetent a lot of the time even by cartoon standards, Optimus is killed back off in a sacrifice to save Cybertron, Cybertron is destroyed for no good reason (invalidating that sacrifice and all past efforts to save it), Mars is blown up for no good reason, and honestly it has a bunch of the same problems that Super Link/Energon would have years later. The best that can be said of it IMO is it kept the brand's clout with retailers in good standing in Japan.

Each to their own, I greatly preferred it to rebirth and I'm glad they took gutsy decisions to blow planets up. You say it invalidated the previous saves but I don't see it that way.

Though Masterforce was the best of the Takara trio.

I didn't say "The Rebirth" was better. I think it sucks too - it's a crappy rush job with iffy justifications for some of the decisions, Daniel becoming Arcee's head has some unfortunate potential implications as well as possibilities that would never get to be fleshed out plus since Hasbro still said "Ew girl cooties" the behind-the-scenes reason for it was a failure, the animation is bad, and so much more. The happy ending is the one thing it has going for it.I just think The Headmasters is little improvement.

I would just *love* to hear your logic for how Cybertron getting blown up doesn't invalidate the previous times it was saved (especially since Optimus Prime re-dies to save Cybertron only a few episodes prior - meaning he died a second time FOR NOTHING). Please do enlighten me. Also enlighten me as to what's so "gutsy" about empty shock value, especially with how casual they are about Mars being destroyed afterwards.

But yes, Masterforce is good aside from the continuity issues (which funnily enough would also befall its spiritual successor Transformers: Cybertron). An enormous improvement in animation, writing, and fight choreography.


Moving on from that, here's an exclusive I'm hoping we get either at the tail of this line or during Siege: A second Hasbro release of UW Blast Off... this time in G2 colors to replace the Slingshot redeco from the Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus boxset.

I wouldn't hold out much hope for another release of blast off, it's a good way to be disappointed.

Also it was gutsy because the bad guys got to win the episode, which they only ever really did in multiple part episodes (or off screen like in the movie). I still don't get the invalidation bit though but I suppose you look at the show with hindsight but none of the characters knew what was coming, besides, we all know that if the headmasters had been picked up, prime wouldn't have died, he would have just been put in a coma

Kids grew up. Reason why "Re-birth" was truncated to three instead of five episodes. It was only in Japan that TF was still going strong.

Also, in HM, it was quite ham-fisted with the character transition (TO SELL TOYS). Rodimus just leaving, Convoy dying again (to sell Chromedome and Fortmax). And the story did meander a bit.

MF was a fresh start but the end also was ham-fisted with every transtector magically becoming sentient all because of Devil Z's demise. (interest was already waving at that time even in Japan or Takara would have committed more funds for extra episodes to Toei)

V even got the shorter end of the stick then Zone then BS/RoC then OC.

Well eventually we got Gaogaigar by 1999