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I might be slightly more interested in the Leaderclass toys if they torsos are swapable between any other toy.

Otherwise I'm getting a mediocre Optimus Prime truck with an unusable/undesirable cab that Transforms into someone who shouldn't exist (anymore if at all) so basically the whole set is only a display piece for robot mode - if it has a secret base mode then that Might help I guess (a bit) But it's under-decorated and a bit boring looking to me.

I would likely like it more if they re-mould it into Nemesis Prime and totally redo the legs and chest of the cab-robot so it looks like Optimus and eventually reissue the toy in double Optimus form - I certainly NEVER want to see that Orion Pax ever again. they need to remould it and only ever use that for re-issues.

Perhaps if they do plan to do an Ultra Magnus with that design then that will provide a proper Optimus - and they can release that as just a cab in a gift set that would be acceptable then Orion Can go in the back of a deep dark draw to be forever forgotten like he deserves to be.

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Rodimus is OK - nothing special but OK - again if he has a trailer-gun mode or a secret base mode that would help - otherwise he's under-designed.

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Optimal Optimus : Would it have killed them to put some wheels on it ?
If they had to castrate the Monkey mode they could have at least put some winglets on the surfboard mode or perhaps some flip out wheels so it can double up as a cab for Optimus or Rodimus.

Main robot is OK but the lack of the ground vehicle mode annoys me - it's like an extra insult on top of the missing Monkey Mode for Deluxe Primal.

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The probably should do a Megatron/G2 Megatron or a Megatron/Galvatron one since he's one of the few to actually be seen evolving.

Also it might help apologise for the dreadful TR Voyager Galvatron toy.

Alternatively throw G1 compliance in the trash and make an Armada/Energon Evolutions toy instead. all you need to do is make a Deluxe Tank Megatron and an Ultra Energon Megatron and combine them in the usual way.
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I'm sure the line is "Fine" overall. But as I said before I'm not going to see any of it on a shelf very often so I likely won't ever get any great attachment to it for that reason - I can't get attached to something if I know I'll only be able to collect it online. I like to buy toys in person sometimes.

But judging by the complete and total lack lack of The last Knight toys of any merit - (if being as bad as it was when they were UK TRU exclusives) I think Hasbro is in trouble here - as they simply won't have the outlets to get the numbers.

No wonder 80% of what I buy now is 3rd party and what I buy that isn't is things like the odd bit of RID or some Rescue Bots as that is all there is around here.

I'm sure they are perfectly fine - I just don't expect to see them so I don't feel inspired to feel to invested yet. I guess sometime around Easter I might be able to pick some up in The Entertainer or Smyths sales.

But if they keep costing £20.00 - I'd rather spend that money elsewhere.

Am I the only one who likes Optimus' truck mode and doesn't understand the dislike towards it?

Like yeah, okay, Orion Pax's arms hanging off the back of the cab is a bit lazy and ech; but aside from that what's the problem? It looks great.

Nothing much wrong with it - it's just a bit boring.

Perhaps some people were expecting something more Powermaster like and were feeling disappointed with it.

I'm in a bad place as I'm at best barely tolerant of Orion Pax. But that said I'm not sure what I think about the likely hood that Elita-1 is going to be taller than him either.

I think Elita-1 may end up displaying better with the TR toy instead.

Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes Optimus' truck mode and doesn't understand the dislike towards it?

Like yeah, okay, Orion Pax's arms hanging off the back of the cab is a bit lazy and ech; but aside from that what's the problem? It looks great.

No, you're not. I absolutely want this figure. It's all sorts of pretty for me. My crew needs a proper Leader, and this feels like a Leader I'm really going to buy (not because I think previous ones are crap, I just never have had the extra money).

Also, is it strange to anyone else to see Primal with a Matrix? Not a terrible "OMG why is that even a thing?!!" strange, just the "not used to seeing" strange.

And do we remember what Nexus Prime's decoy suit was supposed to be?

Kurona wrote:Talking of said interview, I unfortunately don't think we can expect a new-mold Decepticon Leader-class either We did get a ton in TR though so oh well.

Hence why I dont think we will get Deathsaurus in this line.

Nexus Knight wrote:

Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes Optimus' truck mode and doesn't understand the dislike towards it?

Like yeah, okay, Orion Pax's arms hanging off the back of the cab is a bit lazy and ech; but aside from that what's the problem? It looks great.

No, you're not. I absolutely want this figure. It's all sorts of pretty for me. My crew needs a proper Leader, and this feels like a Leader I'm really going to buy (not because I think previous ones are crap, I just never have had the extra money).

Also, is it strange to anyone else to see Primal with a Matrix? Not a terrible "OMG why is that even a thing?!!" strange, just the "not used to seeing" strange.

And do we remember what Nexus Prime's decoy suit was supposed to be?

I really don't see the Orion Pax to Optimus really much different than Titan Masters. If you see the trailer as the Transtector and Orion as the Titan Master, it's no different. Almost just power up armor.

I know that's not what Hasbro's going for, but for Head Canon it works just fine. Same for Rodimus/Hot Rod.

Oh, and no, I have no problem with the Truck Mode on Prime. I super excited for that figure. I think optimus mode looks great and Orion Looks like he walked off the screen but had much better animators. Truck looks cool.

Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?

Nexus Knight wrote:Also, is it strange to anyone else to see Primal with a Matrix? Not a terrible "OMG why is that even a thing?!!" strange, just the "not used to seeing" strange.

And do we remember what Nexus Prime's decoy suit was supposed to be?

Nexus Prime was not leaked so we dont know yet.

Also, for Primal, I totally get it now. It is meant to imitate this scene:



just like Warden said the Rodimus toy was meant to imitate this scnene:



Both use the matrix and then turn into a larger version of themselves (with a new name)

Of course, that further shows how he should turn into a gorilla originally but whatever.

paul053 wrote:Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?

Thats the actual head. Its all clear plastic and they painted the hollow part underneath to give it that effect.

So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.

Also...did anyone else notice in the promo art...there are 15 Prime symbols? I wonder what the extra two are?

Oh woah, Fall? That's pretty early... on the other hand, christmas prezzies!

o.supreme wrote:So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.

I seriously think the dates we see there is a mistake, hasbro is known for mistakes now and again. If wave 1 comes out before December I will be (happily) surprised.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.

I seriously think the dates we see there is a mistake, hasbro is known for mistakes now and again. If wave 1 comes out before December I will be (happily) surprised.

Well I guess if they hit mass retail any time before December 20th...it would technically still be "Fall" ...in the northern hemisphere

Is it me, or does Power of the Primes feel like it's finally Hasbro's take on Robot Masters??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9MpB5HR80

I suppose rather than drastically remould Ultra Magnus with new head and chest and other parts to make the leader Ultra Magnus and the prime like interior robot.

They could be cheap and leave Magnus as a white Optimus and just slightly tweak Orion into Dion.

Which I'd not mind to much - not because I want a Dion but because I'd like to legitimise the idea that Ultra Magnus could also be a White Optimus Prime. (including the trailer) - though I suppose the same idea would work with Nova Prime too.

skywarp-2 wrote:Is it me, or does Power of the Primes feel like it's finally Hasbro's take on Robot Masters??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9MpB5HR80

Do you mean the animation for the accompanying shows? Because I don't see how the toys are the same at all.

Well, more of the storyline, and the inclusion of multiple primes including Beast Wars

william-james88 wrote:

paul053 wrote:Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?

Thats the actual head. Its all clear plastic and they painted the hollow part underneath to give it that effect.

Is there any reason why they do that? Because that looks like wrapping the tiny dino head with plastic wraps.

My Issue with prime isn't the truck but rather the fact they're using a gimmick which is very much like the power master prime gimmick and it's giving us some hybrid thing that I can't quite get to grips with. If the deco was closer to power master prime, add the shoulder cannons, I'd be happier as it would be like a slimmer power master prime like that which graced the back of the g1 boxes.

I like the weapons shown with the dinobots but I do hope there would be both gun and sword. Otherwise they're looking great.

Wondering (and hoping) what Unicronus will be, I'd be quite happy for it to be 5 titan size figures that combine into unicron
But failing that maybe a titan sized combiner using Tripredacus (Orange lobster for body, beetle for a hand? Fly for the other?), Tarantulus becoming backpack/body so the legs become the skeletal wings) and I'd probably be okay with two sweeps as feet and possibly Alpha-Q with a weapon sceptre mode (or hammer so unicronus can play planet croquet).

Still trying to complete Wave 4 onwards of the titans return stuff which might not be possible to do from availability if PotP hits stores here earlier than december (not that its possible at the mo but hey)

blackeyedprime wrote:Wondering (and hoping) what Unicronus will be,

It's "Rodimus Unicronus", a black and purple redeco of Rodimus Prime.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.

I seriously think the dates we see there is a mistake, hasbro is known for mistakes now and again. If wave 1 comes out before December I will be (happily) surprised.

didn't Combiner Wars come out around about December/January (at least in the UK)

paul053 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

paul053 wrote:Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?

Thats the actual head. Its all clear plastic and they painted the hollow part underneath to give it that effect.

Is there any reason why they do that? Because that looks like wrapping the tiny dino head with plastic wraps.

Because that's what the G1 Dinobots had. Translucent plastic over certain parts like the head:

Sludge:


Slag


Snarl


Swoop


Grimlock was the odd man out, having the translucent plastic only around his neck.

If I'm the first one to post these speculations, yeah me!

1) How long do you think it will take before Takara or Hasbro makes a clone of Slash as BW Dinobot?

2) Do you think we'll get Dinoforce? The Decepticon Dinosaur combiner from Victory. It seems doable. But Hasbro has stuck to G1 throughout the Prime Wars and they haven't exactly embraced faction flipped teams. No Decepticon Aerialbot or Autobot Combaticons. We did get an Autobot version of the Stunticons in Ultra Prime/Optimus Maximus. I don't count Megatronia or Grand Galvatron as they weren't retail available.

Any thoughts?