The Energon Pub

by **gothsaurus** » Thu May 17, 2018 2:19 pm

Yeah, it matters for a few reasons...

One, because providing a character name and personality ---> would help Hasbro sell toys. (That's the whole reason for the stories, cartoons, songs, comics, prose, conventions, rivalries...build attachment to the toys.)

Two, because it's confusing and leaving fans hanging when there is an established expectation. There is a new head of a gestalt character, and we wonder who it's supposed to be... how it is supposed to interact with the rest of the cast. We wonder if there are more team members coming. We don't what to expect, or if the toy line is over. That's why I think so many people are on the fence about buying Inferno. If we had a chart that said "Build G2 Defensor" or "Collect All 5 to Build Infernocus" more people would be inclined to make sure they got the torso.

Three, many of us simply want it. (even if there are a few people who don't care.)

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu May 17, 2018 2:37 pm

To be fair the attachment argument is a bit flawed these days as there's multiple interpretations of each character between cartoon, g1 comic and idw comic without factoring in club fiction (is that black rodimus a follower of unicron or is he shattered glass Rodimus? Similar appearance but very different characters).

Lastly, you could have just put argument 3 down instead of everything else :-P

I'm not telling anyone how they should enjoy their stuff, I'm just saying that as far as my opinion goes, I don't care that these characters don't have established gesalts or teams, I can understand why they'll be left the way they are and I can fill the blanks with my head cannon.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu May 17, 2018 2:45 pm

Yeah, I felt it important to mention that that there is a benefit to Hasbro. My desires – VS – it pads the pockets of the Hasbro shareholders.

by **Skritz** » Thu May 17, 2018 5:33 pm

Well, Elita-1 is just kinda weird because she only has two limbs, three if you count Jazz (he's popular with the ladies, I suppose). That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD. :lol:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu May 17, 2018 5:43 pm

Skritz wrote:That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD.

Well if you want to get technical ... the Victorion toy has all limbs, but Machinma has her missing half an arm.

News Credits: 1 · by **Hotconvoy** » Thu May 17, 2018 5:46 pm

Skritz wrote:Well, Elita-1 is just kinda weird because she only has two limbs, three if you count Jazz (he's popular with the ladies, I suppose). That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD.

Yes it's infuriates me aswell :HEADHURTS:

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(Just a side note) I think you have to be OCD to be a Transformer collector :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **Hotconvoy** » Thu May 17, 2018 5:47 pm

Burn wrote:
Skritz wrote:That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD.

Well if you want to get technical ... the Victorion toy has all limbs, but Machinma has her missing half an arm.

Why, why must you torture me, by reminding me, WHY?!

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu May 17, 2018 5:56 pm

Hotconvoy wrote:
Burn wrote:
Skritz wrote:That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD.

Well if you want to get technical ... the Victorion toy has all limbs, but Machinma has her missing half an arm.

Why, why must you torture me, by reminding me, WHY?!

Because.I'm.Not.A.NICE.PERSON!

News Credits: 1 · by **Hotconvoy** » Thu May 17, 2018 5:59 pm

Burn wrote:
Hotconvoy wrote:
Burn wrote:
Skritz wrote:That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD.

Well if you want to get technical ... the Victorion toy has all limbs, but Machinma has her missing half an arm.

Why, why must you torture me, by reminding me, WHY?!

Because.I'm.Not.A.NICE.PERSON!

by **Skritz** » Thu May 17, 2018 8:09 pm

We're all terrible people. >:oP

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 18, 2018 3:29 am

Thanks to the Facebook page for Australian fansite Ozformers, our portal into the world down under for Transformers, we have a couple of sightings for the Power of the Primes figures from the second wave of toys make its way to retailers across the continent!

Specifically, the sighting reports a single deluxe Snarl, hoping it is an indication of more figures being out too, and the voyagers Elita-1 and Hun-Grrr at KMart, in Sydney. You can see an image of the latter below, and the other sightings in the post from Rescue Bots, and The Last Knight stragglers. Make sure to use our Sightings Database to help out other fans too, if you come across these or any other figures!

Some new toys found in the last week or so in Australia.

- POTP w2 Deluxe - a single sighting so far of Snarl at a BigW in Brisbane, so hopefully this means wave 2 is actually out here. Post here if you've seen them as well.
- POTP w2 Voyager (Elita-1 and Hungrrr) - found at a Kmart in Sydney.
- TF5 Movie w3 Deluxe (2nd Bumblebee, Crosshairs, Strafe) - found at a Toymate in Sydney, which should be getting their stock from Hasbro Australia like Toyworld, so could show up elsewhere too.
- Rescue Bots "Nightwatch" Optimus (Dinosaur with 2 Minicons) - found at a Toyworld in Melbourne.
- Rescue Bots Flip Racer Blurr racetrack set - found at a ToysRUs in Brisbane.
- Rescue Bots Flip Racer w2 3-pack (Heatwave, Boulder, Quickshadow) - found at a ToysRUs in Brisbane.
- Rescue Bots Megabot Boulder - found at a Kmart in Brisbane.

And it looks like Transformers have returned to David Jones, after a 7-8 year hiatus. Don't expect much of a range, or competitive prices... but they can be used as a last resort if they are sitting on something that has disappeared everywhere else.
(photos posted to the Ozformers sightings section by members Starshine and griffin)

News Credits: 2 · by **Rodimus Knight** » Fri May 18, 2018 7:25 am

Congratulations Australia, You may have a better chance to get wave 2 before the US.

News Credits: 102 · by **Qwan** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:40 am

Rodimus Knight wrote:Congratulations Australia, You may have a better chance to get wave 2 before the US.

Haha, hardly! Wave 2 Deluxes were sighted in the US almost exactly three months ago, and the Voyagers, Leaders and Legends even before that. Meanwhile Australia now has exactly one sighting of one Deluxe from Wave 2, and sparse appearances of the Voyagers. Hardly a bounty - if there's one thing you can pretty much count on, it's that Australia basically never gets new stuff before the US does

by **gothsaurus** » Fri May 18, 2018 9:37 am

Interesting. Looks like Elita has the black painted feet. Has anyone seen a confirmed sighting of an unpainted pink-footed version?

I want pink feet, but I don't particularly want it to blow a weekend having to strip the paint.

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 18, 2018 9:38 am

gothsaurus wrote:Interesting. Looks like Elita has the black painted feet. Has anyone seen a confirmed sighting of an unpainted pink-footed version?

I want pink feet, but I don't particularly want it to blow a weekend having to strip the paint.

Every single elita 1 has black painted feet

by **gothsaurus** » Fri May 18, 2018 9:50 am

There are Hasbro photos and eBay auctions showing packaged toys with pink feet.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-G ... Swkbpa9kNk

Could be pre-production photos (?). Again, if anyone HAS seen or found one, chime in. Else I'll assume William-James is right.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri May 18, 2018 9:53 am

Skritz wrote:Well, Elita-1 is just kinda weird because she only has two limbs, three if you count Jazz (he's popular with the ladies, I suppose). That leave her with a missing arm and that's just really TRIGGERING to the OCD.

Oh trust me, When PotP is all *said and done* if it ends, and we find out there are no plans to complete the current teams (some things are still up in the air like the appearance of Repugnus, Counterterpunch etc...), and the definite final word if we wont be getting any more PotP later in the year....

I'll be taking all my incomplete combiners, and posting pics of them, with their missing limbs, begging Hasbro to "Finish Them" :lol:

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri May 18, 2018 9:58 am

Seems like a lot of extra hassle for nothing. If the feet were molded from pink plastic, why not just leave them that way? Has anyone tried to strip the paint off Starscreams Prime Armor to see if they are pink as well

by **gothsaurus** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:04 am

Yeah, I 'm guessing someone decided — right as the toy was going out the door — "Good lord, boys won't buy a pink toy. Paint some of it BLACK!"

Sigh.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:26 am

Hasbro interviewing a potential photographer:

H-"Have you ever seen A toy, in your entire life?"

P-"Nope, not even familiar with the concept."

H-"You're hired."

:roll:

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:32 am

Oh, mercy.

(though, wouldn't this go in the Predaking thread?)

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:36 am

Sabrblade wrote:Oh, mercy.

(though, wouldn't this go in the Predaking thread?)

Oops. Forgot Titans get their own thread #-o

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 18, 2018 1:01 pm

o.supreme wrote:Oh trust me, When PotP is all *said and done* if it ends, and we find out there are no plans to complete the current teams (some things are still up in the air like the appearance of Repugnus, Counterterpunch etc...), and the definite final word if we wont be getting any more PotP later in the year....

I'll be taking all my incomplete combiners, and posting pics of them, with their missing limbs, begging Hasbro to "Finish Them"

Hasbro only gave us 2 teams: the dinobots and the horrorcons

There are no other teams in this line, just random bots. So technically there are no incomplete teams since there are no other teams period. They made sure by not even giving us combiner positions or names in the instructions of the random other characters.

I know people are saying this line was rushed but I think its the opposite. I feel they had a big idea which became the new trilogy and then just used POTP as a leftover Combiner Wars 2.0 with characters they heard we wanted most (Dinobots, Horrocons, predaking). Then they just added other random stuff to make it a more complete line before moving on to the next big thing that is WFC.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri May 18, 2018 1:35 pm

william-james88 wrote:I know people are saying this line was rushed but I think its the opposite. I feel they had a big idea which became the new trilogy and then just used POTP as a leftover Combiner Wars 2.0 with characters they heard we wanted most (Dinobots, Horrocons, predaking). Then they just added other random stuff to make it a more complete line before moving on to the next big thing that is WFC.

Hasbro had been planning a "Prime Wars" trilogy since Combiner Wars, though. Seems to me like they had plenty of time to come up with the ending to their trilogy, but something changed. What I think happened is that after they wrapped up production for Titans Return, they were kinda stuck creatively. Then, the next trilogy idea came around, that being "War for Cybertron," before Power of the Primes was thoroughly planned out. Focus soon shifted to the new concept and very little effort was put into Power of the Primes as a result.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Fri May 18, 2018 1:41 pm

^Also perhaps, as was reported last year, the shift from an 18 month Toyline, to a 12 month one to supposedly encourage stores to carry more product by keeping it "fresh".

I mean whats the point of marketing the power of 12 primes, if they aren't going to even give us all 12? There has to be something more. This PotP line has a lot of firsts, unfortunately more and more of them appear to be negatives as a result of cost-cutting