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Madeus Prime wrote:Guys...the rest of the Prime Masters after Megatronus, Solus, and Quintus aren't seeing individual release, are they?

Highly unlikely.

starrhero wrote:So, any idea on what this version of Primal's name should be? are we going to stick with OpOp, call him just Optimus Primal, or something else? We can't call him Primal Prime, as he doesn't share the same colors.

Eh, I'm just going to call him Optimal Primal & pray to Primus (or in this case, Primal) that I can get him.

I imagine if the whole point was to name a new Prime then they'd just recycle the old Primal Prime moniker and call it a day.

And yes, this set does feel like a huge slap in the face to not just the international market, but to kids as well. To think that for months now they've been trying to get kids excited about collecting all 12 Primes, only to make the final 3 + 1 nearly impossible to get. I can't even begin to understand the logic there.

I feel like whether I got this set or not I still wouldn't have a complete set of Prime Masters since all of the stores around me are packed to capacity with Wave 1.

Emerje

RustedCross wrote:Wait....if there are 15 symbols (that we may or may not get), are they suggesting there are 15 Primes?
I'm so confused.

12 Primes, the 13th holding the Matrix, and the other two we don't know. Some think it's Primus and Unicron.

kurthy wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Guys...the rest of the Prime Masters after Megatronus, Solus, and Quintus aren't seeing individual release, are they?

Highly unlikely.

Nope, especially with their Shells if any. At least the main 12 are accounted for in some shape or form.

Randomhero wrote:

Caelus wrote:Then the Power of the Primes line would have actually included all of the Primes, with the Prime Masters being their included relics. It wouldn't have been impossibly costly to do the Thirteen either. Optimus is always on the docket. PotP Alpha Trion could have been a recolor of TR Alpha Trion, PotP Vector Prime could have been a re-release of Cybertron Vector Prime with a cyberkey retooled to hold his Prime Master.

True but I don’t think you’re gonna convince anyone to buy a 13 year old mold of Vector prime now. No matter how you retool him he was a shelfwarner.

I figured that had more to do with market saturation. I love that toy. Though it was one of the few figures I've taken a paint brush to.

Now I'm officially drooling! Me want!

Caelus wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Caelus wrote:Then the Power of the Primes line would have actually included all of the Primes, with the Prime Masters being their included relics. It wouldn't have been impossibly costly to do the Thirteen either. Optimus is always on the docket. PotP Alpha Trion could have been a recolor of TR Alpha Trion, PotP Vector Prime could have been a re-release of Cybertron Vector Prime with a cyberkey retooled to hold his Prime Master.

True but I don’t think you’re gonna convince anyone to buy a 13 year old mold of Vector prime now. No matter how you retool him he was a shelfwarner.

I figured that had more to do with market saturation. I love that toy. Though it was one of the few figures I've taken a paint brush to.

As do I. I do enjoy it a lot.

NEMESIS PRIME. Is being released on prime day

Vector Prime was a shelfwarmer? Well, I suppose it could have been due to having three different versions...all of which had interesting paintjobs. I've considered trying to ebay one of those, is he worth it? I'm considering trying to find the yellow-beige version, called 'Galaxy Force' but which isn't the japanese version.

Sure he'd look a bit out of place in my Generations-only lineup but, hey, he IS a time traveller isn't he?

Emerje wrote:And yes, this set does feel like a huge slap in the face to not just the international market, but to kids as well. To think that for months now they've been trying to get kids excited about collecting all 12 Primes, only to make the final 3 + 1 nearly impossible to get. I can't even begin to understand the logic there.

That's John "not in the budget" Warden for you.

As much as I love and want the Throne of the Primes set, I'll admit that it stinks of "Let's just stuff everything we don't have time to release into this exclusive set so it's out of the way". It's clear that Power of the Primes was supposed to last longer than it has, I'm guessing the Hasbro higher-ups ordered for it to be cut short, along with the IDW comic continuity, so there could be a back-to-basics relaunch in 2019.

Munkky wrote:

Emerje wrote:And yes, this set does feel like a huge slap in the face to not just the international market, but to kids as well. To think that for months now they've been trying to get kids excited about collecting all 12 Primes, only to make the final 3 + 1 nearly impossible to get. I can't even begin to understand the logic there.

That's John "not in the budget" Warden for you.

As much as I love and want the Throne of the Primes set, I'll admit that it stinks of "Let's just stuff everything we don't have time to release into this exclusive set so it's out of the way". It's clear that Power of the Primes was supposed to last longer than it has, I'm guessing the Hasbro higher-ups ordered for it to be cut short, along with the IDW comic continuity, so there could be a back-to-basics relaunch in 2019.

He must be excited and tight in the pants to be designing a line with yet another Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee and all-the-characters-everyone-already-has. Well except Ironhide and Ratchet but given Hasbro's track record watch them either not release them alongside '84 bots or making one of the two an exclusive.

**** Warden.

o.supreme wrote:

TrypticonCarne wrote:NEMESIS PRIME. Is being released on prime day

which is...?

*edit*

(July 17, looked it up for those like me who had no idea...)

*squeals*

Skritz wrote:

Munkky wrote:

Emerje wrote:And yes, this set does feel like a huge slap in the face to not just the international market, but to kids as well. To think that for months now they've been trying to get kids excited about collecting all 12 Primes, only to make the final 3 + 1 nearly impossible to get. I can't even begin to understand the logic there.

That's John "not in the budget" Warden for you.

As much as I love and want the Throne of the Primes set, I'll admit that it stinks of "Let's just stuff everything we don't have time to release into this exclusive set so it's out of the way". It's clear that Power of the Primes was supposed to last longer than it has, I'm guessing the Hasbro higher-ups ordered for it to be cut short, along with the IDW comic continuity, so there could be a back-to-basics relaunch in 2019.

He must be excited and tight in the pants to be designing a line with yet another Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee and all-the-characters-everyone-already-has. Well except Ironhide and Ratchet but given Hasbro's track record watch them either not release them alongside '84 bots or making one of the two an exclusive.

**** Warden.

I mean, I get where you are coming from, I dobt need another Prime or Bee. (Still waiting on a Good Megs, the Blitzeing pretool is close though) but these are the Main Core. You dont sell Avengers toys without Cap and Iron Man. You dont lunch a Star Wars Line without Luke Leia and Han. You have to have Prime acknowledged. And despite that, this Brand Team still bothered to reach in and pull out 86 and 87 era guys. Be honest, did you ever think you woulda seen Krok in the main line? Misfire? Slugslinger? Yeah, we got another Bee too, but I say its a worthwhile trade off.

Flashwave wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Munkky wrote:

Emerje wrote:And yes, this set does feel like a huge slap in the face to not just the international market, but to kids as well. To think that for months now they've been trying to get kids excited about collecting all 12 Primes, only to make the final 3 + 1 nearly impossible to get. I can't even begin to understand the logic there.

That's John "not in the budget" Warden for you.

As much as I love and want the Throne of the Primes set, I'll admit that it stinks of "Let's just stuff everything we don't have time to release into this exclusive set so it's out of the way". It's clear that Power of the Primes was supposed to last longer than it has, I'm guessing the Hasbro higher-ups ordered for it to be cut short, along with the IDW comic continuity, so there could be a back-to-basics relaunch in 2019.

He must be excited and tight in the pants to be designing a line with yet another Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee and all-the-characters-everyone-already-has. Well except Ironhide and Ratchet but given Hasbro's track record watch them either not release them alongside '84 bots or making one of the two an exclusive.

**** Warden.

I mean, I get where you are coming from, I dobt need another Prime or Bee. (Still waiting on a Good Megs, the Blitzeing pretool is close though) but these are the Main Core. You dont sell Avengers toys without Cap and Iron Man. You dont lunch a Star Wars Line without Luke Leia and Han. You have to have Prime acknowledged. And despite that, this Brand Team still bothered to reach in and pull out 86 and 87 era guys. Be honest, did you ever think you woulda seen Krok in the main line? Misfire? Slugslinger? Yeah, we got another Bee too, but I say its a worthwhile trade off.

Honestly I'm fine with a new version of the staple if they intend to use the molds for someone else later, since it allow for a more unique figure (like the triple-changing G2 homage of TR) and for some less 'important' character to appear OR if the new figure is deliberately something we haven't seen before/in a long time. Again, a Titans Return example being Leader Class Powermaster Prime.

If they just fill the line with more deluxes of the same characters over and over and leave these molds without further use for something which could have been cool then it's, to me, mostly a 'waste'. But if say it's a Deluxe Cybertronian Bumblebee whose mold is used for someone else (in an era where retool are becoming increasingly impressive) who hasn't had an update then I'm more than fine with it.

Just ordered Nemesis Prime off Amazon. Guess it was a small window? Delivery date is scheduled for the 18th of July. Anyone else?

Jeffrohurt wrote:Just ordered Nemesis Prime off Amazon. Guess it was a small window? Delivery date is scheduled for the 18th of July. Anyone else?

Not from what I've seen, but how much was old Nemesis? I'm assuming he's around $60, but I'm probably wrong.

He's probably more...

Munkky wrote:

Emerje wrote:And yes, this set does feel like a huge slap in the face to not just the international market, but to kids as well. To think that for months now they've been trying to get kids excited about collecting all 12 Primes, only to make the final 3 + 1 nearly impossible to get. I can't even begin to understand the logic there.

That's John "not in the budget" Warden for you.

As much as I love and want the Throne of the Primes set, I'll admit that it stinks of "Let's just stuff everything we don't have time to release into this exclusive set so it's out of the way". It's clear that Power of the Primes was supposed to last longer than it has, I'm guessing the Hasbro higher-ups ordered for it to be cut short, along with the IDW comic continuity, so there could be a back-to-basics relaunch in 2019.

Yeah I don't understand why they couldn't put out twelve pretender shells. It's not like there wasn't space in the waves.

I would've even been fine with some repainted shells. The Autobot shells could've doubled as some of the other pretenders like Vroom or Crossblades.

starrhero wrote:

Jeffrohurt wrote:Just ordered Nemesis Prime off Amazon. Guess it was a small window? Delivery date is scheduled for the 18th of July. Anyone else?

Not from what I've seen, but how much was old Nemesis? I'm assuming he's around $60, but I'm probably wrong.

He's probably more...

17th for me and 49.99 USD with Tax so 55.00 usd rounding up

TrypticonCarne wrote:

starrhero wrote:

Jeffrohurt wrote:Just ordered Nemesis Prime off Amazon. Guess it was a small window? Delivery date is scheduled for the 18th of July. Anyone else?

Not from what I've seen, but how much was old Nemesis? I'm assuming he's around $60, but I'm probably wrong.

He's probably more...

17th for me and 49.99 USD with Tax so 55.00 usd rounding up

Could you guys post a link pretty please? I'm searching the Zon high and low and can't find the listing.

Cobotron wrote:

TrypticonCarne wrote:

starrhero wrote:

Jeffrohurt wrote:Just ordered Nemesis Prime off Amazon. Guess it was a small window? Delivery date is scheduled for the 18th of July. Anyone else?

Not from what I've seen, but how much was old Nemesis? I'm assuming he's around $60, but I'm probably wrong.

He's probably more...

17th for me and 49.99 USD with Tax so 55.00 usd rounding up

Could you guys post a link pretty please? I'm searching the Zon high and low and can't find the listing.

the link is dead right now, I recently checked and it's showing an error, and if he's in your wishlist look there

Wow, what a difference that paint job makes, hell I think I like this better than the OG OPOP. Will definitely be picking this guy up if appears online.

starrhero wrote:

Jeffrohurt wrote:Just ordered Nemesis Prime off Amazon. Guess it was a small window? Delivery date is scheduled for the 18th of July. Anyone else?

Not from what I've seen, but how much was old Nemesis? I'm assuming he's around $60, but I'm probably wrong.

He's probably more...

Mine was $79cdn shipping and all. So around 70us I think

william-james88 wrote:It is still unclear if the crown can come off or not.

Judging from that picture of jet mode, I think it would have to for transformation.

Just open and messed around with Elita-1. Sure, the bot is "snu snu" and the jet have MASSIVE undercarriage. But the torso mode is solid, the colors and sculp are pretty nice, the joints are tight, and it was fun to transform. Sure, She's not the "toy of the year", but for a transformers, Elita-1 do the job perfectly.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just open and messed around with Elita-1. Sure, the bot is "snu snu" and the jet have MASSIVE undercarriage. But the torso mode is solid, the colors and sculp are pretty nice, the joints are tight, and it was fun to transform. Sure, She's not the "toy of the year", but for a transformers, Elita-1 do the job perfectly.

Assuming she's like Starscream you can remove her arm panels to slim down her forearms, which help her overall silhouette and while she still remain with an implied amazonian physique (but what else would you expect from Optimus' female counterpart in Generation 1, a skinny robo-waif?), it at least give her arms that don't look overly inflated.