The Energon Pub

Predaprince wrote:First off, I'm guessing it is spelled Cybonic Plague.

That's a possibility.

Predaprince wrote:Second, you must never have heard of the Bubonic Plague.

I meant an existing Transformers virus from within the past 26+ years of fiction. No need to be rude.

Predaprince wrote:Third, it is my guess that Ratchet is going to take control of BB rather than just see what he sees. This would explain the voice at the very end.

You do realize that commercials can edit things together to give a false impression. That voiceover of Ratchet's was just that, a voiceover. We cannot say for certain what it signifies, other than that Ratchet may be forming some kind of remote connection with BB's optics from the base.

Predaprince wrote:Lastly, this is not an original concept. It was done plenty of times in G1, one of which was specifically just Optimus Prime, as well as in other TF shows.

When did G1 Optimus Prime become internally sick with a disease that left him bedridden?

Predaprince wrote:Btw, I agree with Ryan that this was seen in Beast Wars, since the fact that Optimus Primal went berserk was not the Predacon's plot. Also, even though it made him go berserk, it made him malfunction and caused the Maximals to go on the offensive to retrieve the cure.

While the berserker effect may have been unintentional, the intended purpose of Scorponok's virus was to make Primal weak and cowardly like a little child. It instead did just the opposite. While it also may have been intended to kill him gradually, that wasn't the virus's only intention, as is seen here with this new plague.

Predaprince wrote:I'm also wondering why it is you are giving the roll your eyes emoticon to the founder of this forum website.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Even though Ryan's the (awesome) Main Man of this site, he's still a regular human being, just like me, you, and all the users on this forum... at least, I don't think there's any non-human members on this site.

Red 50 wrote:Okay, so maybe not the two of 'em alone, but if they'd bring Bulkhead then the only real threat would be: Starscream, Soundwave, Breakdown, Knock out-

Doesn't look like Bulkhead will join them.

Red 50 wrote:Dang, you're right.
So yeah, we saw how they scrapped the Vehicons aboard Nemesis in "The Darkness Rising Pt 4". But it does take more effort to defeat Knock Out and Breakdown. Screamer and Wavevy are unknown since they've never really been on close-combats (Except for SS, who got kicked by Wheeljack.)

Not to mention how tough the Vehicons already are by themselves. Sure they get beaten a lot, but they don't go down that quickly. It takes a while for them to fall in close-quarter combat.

Red 50 wrote:Still, you would think that getting into Decepticons flagship should be harder than that: Bulkhead simply drove up the hill and jumped aboard it, Jackie and Arcee Bumblebee got bridged there (Technically Jackie did get bridged back and RC & BB have yet to warp).

We'll see what happens once the episode airs.

Your statement of it being a new name was not specifically to the TF universe and, therefore, I was stating to you that they got the name of it from the Bubonic Plague. I was not intending to be rude, but I think it is hypocritical for you to say that I was being rude. Yes, we are all human beings on this site with the same rights. Yes, Ryan, you, and I have the same freedom of speech (and type), but I think it was uncalled for to give him a roll your eyes emoticon just because you disagree with his statement. I would have thought it rude if it had been to any other poster as well. If you want to continue stating that other posters are incorrect, then that is fine with me, but you have, in my opinion, come across as arrogant and/or condescending at times.

As for this "Sick Mind" plot, it is true that the exact specifics have never been done. However, as Ryan, I, and others have been stating, the main idea of Optimus being in danger from an illness or malfunction and other Autobots/Maximals going to the Decepticons/Predacons base to retrieve something to save him has been done over and over.

Predaprince wrote:Your statement of it being a new name was not specifically to the TF universe and, therefore, I was stating to you that they got the name of it from the Bubonic Plague.

Then I should have clarified such better. Still, I got the Bubonic Plague part.

Predaprince wrote:Yes, we are all human beings on this site with the same rights. Yes, Ryan, you, and I have the same freedom of speech (and type), but I think it was uncalled for to give him a roll your eyes emoticon just because you disagree with his statement.

Well, when I use this eyeroll smilie ( ), it's more of a neutral expression than if I were to use this eyeroll smilie ( ) that conveys more of the feeling that you assumed I was thinking when I used the first one. I use either to differentiate the two feelings, yet it was the first one I used. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Predaprince wrote:If you want to continue stating that other posters are incorrect, then that is fine with me, but you have, in my opinion, come across as arrogant and/or condescending at times.

Honestly, I've been trying to diminish this, but it's tough to break an old habit. I never wanted to come off as such, but sometimes passion can grow too far.

Predaprince wrote:As for this "Sick Mind" plot, it is true that the exact specifics have never been done. However, as Ryan, I, and others have been stating, the main idea of Optimus being in danger from an illness or malfunction and other Autobots/Maximals going to the Decepticons/Predacons base to retrieve something to save him has been done over and over.

So... what's the problem? Since it's been done so much, we ought to expect it to happen. Though, it is still good that the specifics do differ, otherwise it'd get old if there were little-to-no difference each time.

Here's another version of the Transformers Prime "Sick Mind" preview that was posted a few days ago by Comics Continuum. It's essentially the same promo, but we get a close up look a Optimus Prime's plague ravaged face in the first few seconds. The video is embedded below.

Looks like Optimus might begin to show some real emotion in this one, instead of always looking so stoic all the time. Though, he did kinda show a bit of sadness over Megatron's apparent "passing" in episode 6, but that was very minimal and was quickly brushed off by the mild explosion of Raf's science project.

Predaprince wrote:Your statement of it being a new name was not specifically to the TF universe and, therefore, I was stating to you that they got the name of it from the Bubonic Plague. I was not intending to be rude, but I think it is hypocritical for you to say that I was being rude. Yes, we are all human beings on this site with the same rights. Yes, Ryan, you, and I have the same freedom of speech (and type), but I think it was uncalled for to give him a roll your eyes emoticon just because you disagree with his statement. I would have thought it rude if it had been to any other poster as well. If you want to continue stating that other posters are incorrect, then that is fine with me, but you have, in my opinion, come across as arrogant and/or condescending at times.

As for this "Sick Mind" plot, it is true that the exact specifics have never been done. However, as Ryan, I, and others have been stating, the main idea of Optimus being in danger from an illness or malfunction and other Autobots/Maximals going to the Decepticons/Predacons base to retrieve something to save him has been done over and over.

Hey Predaprince! You're annoying. I don't see Ryan (site owner) shedding a tear over the "eye roll." Pretty sure he doesn't care. Let it go so we can all stop reading about it. Okay? Thanks!

So... how 'bout that "Sick Mind" preview? Eh?

HalfOfMe wrote:Hey Predaprince! You're annoying. I don't see Ryan (site owner) shedding a tear over the "eye roll." Pretty sure he doesn't care. Let it go so we can all stop reading about it. Okay? Thanks!

Sabrblade and I had let it go quite awhile ago. You are now bringing up my post for no reason. It doesn't make any sense to bring something up just to tell the original poster to let it go. I wasn't posting about it anymore. Besides, the majority of Sabrblade and my post interactions on this thread have still been about the episode preview. Instead of asking what everyone else thinks about the preview (since we have been posting what we think already), perhaps you would like to comment on your thoughts of it.

Wooooh, glad you picked up on the sarcasm, there! I was worried for a second.

Nevertheless, this is far more reminiscent of "Cosmic Rust" but from an Autobot perspective, than anything Beast Wars, in my opinion. However, I think that from an artistic and entertainment perspective, we benefit more from viewing this from within its own lens than by way of comparison. In other words, as unique as Beast Wars was from G1, Prime is likewise from its predecessors. With the threat of "plague" being a common plot device in much of storytelling at large, I think we should keep that in mind.

gee. you think primes gonna die? oh no!

griftimus prime wrote:gee. you think primes gonna die? oh no!

No one brought that up at all.

Besides, I really wouldn't mind if he did kick the bucket. This Optimus is bland, boring, and dull. He was far more interesting in Exodus, but he has since lost that endearing quality of a new leader who just wants to make things right for everyone, including his enemies. At the point, OP takes "stoic" to the letter and can't seem to even spit out some genuine emotion.

Unless they decide to give Optimus some actual character, the less of him there is, the better.

After all, he'd just come back later anyway.

Okay, I SERIOUSLY need to catch up with Prime!!!!
I dont think Ive seen an episode since the 3 week break they took. Now off to YouTube to catch some of those episodes Ive missed...