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News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:32 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:Just how big is the "Simplified Voyager" Optimus Prime compared to his wavemate Predaking?

News Credits: 640 · by **ScottyP** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:33 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:Just how big is the "Simplified Voyager" Optimus Prime compared to his wavemate Predaking?

They match up pretty well. They both barely fit inside the box, which is the same size as the box they put the other BH Voyagers in.

News Credits: 1 · by **dirk2243** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:41 am

GuyIncognito wrote:
dirk2243 wrote:
That wasn't my point. I was saying I'm not paying more for an "upscaled" cyberverse character.

OK, but what about paying $20 for a Leader-size figure that's bigger and better-looking than the Voyager? What about paying half price for a better Leader-class figure?

While I agree, it is sad that some Cyberverse Characters are far better then the voyager counterparts.....
Cyberverse Commander Prediking
Cyberverse Commander Blackout
And maybe Cyberverse CMDR Ironhide (maybe)

But I'm still passing on him. I was never really impressed with any version of him (my opinion). I would be interested in the Deluxe sized Terrorcons.

News Credits: 640 · by **ScottyP** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:50 am

dirk2243 wrote:And maybe Cyberverse CMDR Ironhide (maybe)

I'll second that one, I think the Cyberverse one has superior articulation to the Arms Micron Deluxe and oozes character.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:04 pm

Wow, Prime looks BEEFY. He would be tempting if it weren't for the horrid bright green plastic all over. So, what keeps these down at the Voyager price point for a larger size overall? Are they very hollow inside or something?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:21 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:Wow, Prime looks BEEFY. He would be tempting if it weren't for the horrid bright green plastic all over. So, what keeps these down at the Voyager price point for a larger size overall? Are they very hollow inside or something?

Simpler Transformation -> Less parts + no gimmicks = lower overall cost. We may call them upscaled Commanders, but there are differences. The only thing they share is overall transformation, but the detailing, molding and jointing are different (ball joints replaced by swivels and ratcheting joints).

News Credits: 1 · by **dirk2243** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:58 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:Wow, Prime looks BEEFY. He would be tempting if it weren't for the horrid bright green plastic all over. So, what keeps these down at the Voyager price point for a larger size overall? Are they very hollow inside or something?

I've seen a post that shows how easy the green plastic can be removed. I'll see if I can still find it.