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[Carnivius_Prime]

Yeah that devy is going to cost a lot when it's all added up. Maybe releasing him in stages is to help people's wallets...

Makes it more appealing to me since I'm not generally a combiner fan anyways so I'm quite happy seeing them as seperate individual purchases that happen to combine into a cool monster when I have the lot and I actually do want all of them (which again is rare for me in regards to combiner teams) since I'm kinda addicted to collecting Studio Series and big fan of the movie designs. I suppose individual ones can be more difficult to collect since you have to be sure you find them all rather than available in one big package though but we'll see how it goes. Am curious to know how much it'll all cost when done being that it's a mixture of deluxes and voyagers.

[ZeroWolf]

Well so far we're looking at 70 ish from what we've seen so far (two deluxes and a Voyager) I think there's rumours that scavenger may be a leader, which if true adds another 50 to the price.

[Octobotimus]

Well so far we're looking at 70 ish from what we've seen so far (two deluxes and a Voyager) I think there's rumours that scavenger may be a leader, which if true adds another 50 to the price.

knowing that they confirmed he is made of 8 members, this thing is going to most likely cost around 200-250.

[TF-fan kev777]

I think we are looking at a minimum of 3 deluxes, 4 Voyagers and 1 leader for a total of $230 on the low end. That would assume Mixmaster is a deluxe and Overload is a voyager. If those 2 are instead voyager and leader, then we're looking at about $260.

So the reality is we're pretty much getting 2 titans in 2019.

[Lunatic Prime]

Well so far we're looking at 70 ish from what we've seen so far (two deluxes and a Voyager) I think there's rumours that scavenger may be a leader, which if true adds another 50 to the price.

knowing that they confirmed he is made of 8 members, this thing is going to most likely cost around 200-250.

Just make a comparison with CW Devastator. He consists of six Voyager class figures and how much did he cost? $150? So now you probably get a combiner consisting of 8 figures in different classes from Deluxe to Leader and pay about $225. Of course they are a bit more expensive because they are packaged separate and SS figures have "more" paintapps and "more" parts because of "improved" transformations.

[william-james88]

So we have the following revealed so far for Devastato:

Long Haul
Scrapmetal
Rampage

So there are 5 left right?

I assume Hightower, Misxmaster (No clue how that will turn out), Scrapper and Demolisher will be next, but who wil the last one be?

[Sabrblade]

So we have the following revealed so far for Devastato:

Long Haul
Scrapmetal
Rampage

So there are 5 left right?

I assume Hightower, Misxmaster (No clue how that will turn out), Scrapper and Demolisher will be next, but who wil the last one be?

Overload.

Also, you mean Scavenger. Demolishor wasn't part of the combination in the movie.

[william-james88]

So we have the following revealed so far for Devastato:

Long Haul
Scrapmetal
Rampage

So there are 5 left right?

I assume Hightower, Misxmaster (No clue how that will turn out), Scrapper and Demolisher will be next, but who wil the last one be?

Overload.

Also, you mean Scavenger. Demolishor wasn't part of the combination in the movie.

I do not mean Scavenger, I mean Demolisher. I am sure thats what Hasbro is gonna do since they are incorporating two things in one with these releases. Giving the individual constructicons with robot modes we saw and making them combine into devastator. Scrapmetal is a perfect example of what they want to do. Technically none of this is accurate since all the componets for Devastator were drones with no robot modes. But clearly, no one wants that.

[o.supreme]

Why would they have him combine with Movie 1 Prime and not the ROTF-labeled one that's currently out? Because Movie 1 Prime has been modified to actually support the combination. And to have a chest that doesn't look like it used the 2007 Optimus toys for reference.

As I stated previously, the only change to Optimus' body between Movie 1 and RotF is just that he's a bit more weathered in robot mode. It's a very minor cosmetic thing. There is literally no reason you can't use "Movie 1" Optimus for ROTF scenes. Obviously you'd have to borrow the inferior previous version's swords for some of it, but then you'd have to do that for his fight with Bonecrusher anyway.

Also as I stated in my comments, I get that there was really very little between movie 1 and RotF Optimus Prime, however I just thought the whole point of the SS line was to go for super accuracy, something none of the previous movie tie-in lines were able to do. I guess that just goes out the window here?

Besides I'm not looking to have Optimus fight Bonecrusher or anyone else. I don't collect SS as a general rule, but I just thought the combined Jet/Optimus was cool, as would be a *possible* Devastator. I'll still get it, just a little disappointed at the lack of forward thinking by Has/Tak that's all.

[william-james88]

I guess that just goes out the window here?

Its still the most accurate line we ever had, but it stopped being perfectly accurate a while back. I mean, what the **** is Shadowraider?

[Omegatron.]

Technically none of this is accurate since all the componets for Devastator were drones with no robot modes. But clearly, no one wants that.

Just because they didn't transform in the movie doesn't mean they don't have robot modes.

[Sabrblade]

I guess that just goes out the window here?

Its still the most accurate line we ever had, but it stopped being perfectly accurate a while back. I mean, what the **** is Shadowraider?

Lockdown's mercenary troops.

[Carnivius_Prime]

I guess that just goes out the window here?

Its still the most accurate line we ever had, but it stopped being perfectly accurate a while back. I mean, what the **** is Shadowraider?

Lockdown's mercenary troops.

Yeah I thought we cleared that up ages ago. Yes they don't look much the same but that it was it is and hey maybe it's what happens when they choose alt-modes like their leader.

[william-james88]

I guess that just goes out the window here?

Its still the most accurate line we ever had, but it stopped being perfectly accurate a while back. I mean, what the **** is Shadowraider?

Lockdown's mercenary troops.

Which is perfect proof that not everything in the studio series line is screen accurate.

[TF-fan kev777]

Looks like Hasbro dragged me into the SS line after all. I don't really collect the movie line figures, being mainly generations for my collection. My only SS figures so far are 3 Thundercrackers that are just bodies for Scorponok, Fangry and Overboard from Titans Return (with Thunderwing and Apeface currently sporting Nitro Zeus bodies.)

But now, I'm going to have to get at least 1, probably 2 Cogmans (cogmen?) to be bodies for Ramhorn and Lione unless I can find any more TLK cogmans at Ross/TJMaxx/Marshalls cheaper. I have one TLK Cogman that already belongs to Shuffler.

Then they hit me with Devy. All 8 will be bought on sight. Just when I was going to skip some of the Siege figures and save me some $$$. Well played Hasbro, well played.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I guess that just goes out the window here?

Its still the most accurate line we ever had, but it stopped being perfectly accurate a while back. I mean, what the **** is Shadowraider?

Lockdown's mercenary troops.

Which is perfect proof that not everything in the studio series line is screen accurate.

Not when it comes to characters with a negligible, "blink-or-you'll-miss-it", amount of screen time, or at the very least army-builders. Kinda scary thought for Sideways and Jolt, where would they fall?

Just to clear a few things up:

Constructicons were a dime-a-dozen in RotF, the same type of vehicle came in different colors throughout the movie, the giant mining excavator and the bulldozer most notably so. Put bluntly:

Demolishor: white excavator, unceremoniously executed in Shanghai at the beginning
Scavenger: red excavator, part of Devastator

Rampage: red bulldozer, fought Bumblebee in Egypt
unknown bulldozer: yellow, part of Devastator.

That only goes for the movie, mind you: the toys used the "Devastator" colors for the individuals upon initial release, later redecos had the correct movie colors... for the most part. Rampage lucked out in a sense by being the right color for the character, but the wrong color for Devastator. As for the excavator... most definitely red, I don't care what name they're gonna use. More than likely they'll be redecoed in their alternate colors later, using alternate names

[Ig89ninja]

I just hope this line will give us options on who to include in DEVASTATOR, because I like Demolishor’s color scheme slightly better than Scavenger’s, and it would be nice to have the option of replacing Overload with Bonecrusher.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Bonecrusher's body type isn't even one of the Constructicon types in the film!

My point about "Movie 1" Optimus is that he's more accurate to both movie 1 and ROTF than the original SS Optimus. And that Jetfire combines with him rather than the existing "ROTF" one because that one lacks the connectors; it'd be like trying to combine Godbomber with the original Hasbro Powermaster Optimus Prime.

I am aware of that. Nine in total, of which the Supreme class omitted 3 and the Legends-class combiner omitted two. However, with Scrapmetal getting a toy they seemed to be going for the overlooked members this time around. So if all - as in really all, all 9 of them, nobody left out this time - the component robots were in scale, then...
And it's been confirmed that this Devy is eight-piece, so there's only one component vehicle missing this time.

Technically, this Devastator also omits two components. Scrapmetal wasn't actually part of Devastator in the film, he seems to be filling the role of this guy on the new Devastator.

Fair point, but replacing him with another guy is different than leaving him and his mass out entirely.

Re: what I said about how the individual Constructicons forcing Devastator to be more to scale if they themselves were to scale... TThere's one I know won't be to scale: Scavenger. Because the Wheelbot body type is so bloody huge he would would have to be Supreme-class to be in scale, and I know that's not happening.

I guess that just goes out the window here?

Its still the most accurate line we ever had, but it stopped being perfectly accurate a while back. I mean, what the **** is Shadowraider?

A glorified accessory booster pack for Lockdown colored vaguely like Lockdown's generic goons It's the same BS they pulled with Ratchet and Starscream, albeit Starscream's redeco is actually canon.

[Spider5800]

Ugh, really torn on the new Devastator.

On the one hand, this thing will be ludicrously expensive to complete, nevermind the time it will take to hunt them all down. And I'm actually happy with the RotF versions of these guys (the ones they released at least, Mixmaster and Long Haul look especially good), even if they don't combine. Plus it will kinda bug me that I either have to give up accuracy for Devastator or the individual bots, since different colors were used by the bots and components in the film (white and red excavator, red and yellow bulldozer, etc). And you'll probably lose some features from the old versions too (no way Mixmaster has a 3rd mode this time).

But MAN, it's cool that they even attempted this. The movie version had to be a nightmare to design with bot modes included, and the fact that they pulled this off somehow is a minor miracle.

Ultimately, I'll probably have to skip it because of money and space (no idea where I'd put this thing at my house), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to try.

[Ig89ninja]

Tell me you don’t see a resemblance

[blackeyedprime]

Kind of tempted on getting the studio series stuff now, Mixmaster would have to be Voyager sized at least for it to work with the other vehicles/bots unless they go all out crazy and have two leader classes for it. Greatful for the Cogman as it will be nice to finally have one and be able to give it a traditional head from one of the spare titan masters. My Nitro currently uses ghost starscreams head tho he might get his own back when I find a Thundercracker.

The new bot cyberverse thing looks heavilly inspired by TF animated Blur for its legs so it might fall imto a basket on the way to a check out at some point.

[william-james88]

A glorified accessory booster pack for Lockdown colored vaguely like Lockdown's generic goons It's the same BS they pulled with Ratchet and Starscream, albeit Starscream's redeco is actually canon.

Ok this is something I never understood, so Ratchet's "DOTM" deco is not in the film? He's still just yellowish green like the previous films?

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Wow! They sure both, uh... Have broad shoulders... And leg tires.. and claws... and back protrusions I guess...
They're vaguely similar-ish, but that's about it. And those are heavily-simplified Legends-size figures to boot (Overload doesn't have the second set of arms for instance). They're still different designs with different transformation needs, and different vehicle modes (articulated dump truck vs fixed-wheelbase minesweeper truck). And the series might go with Overload's other concept robot mode design, which was very distinct.

Studio Series Bonecrusher has already been revealed in full detail. Nothing about him suggests he could possibly form Devastator's pelvis or combine at all.

A glorified accessory booster pack for Lockdown colored vaguely like Lockdown's generic goons It's the same BS they pulled with Ratchet and Starscream, albeit Starscream's redeco is actually canon.

Ok this is something I never understood, so Ratchet's "DOTM" deco is not in the film? He's still just yellowish green like the previous films?

Huh. TFwiki says he does have the altered paintjob (though with the yellow green still). In all my watches I somehow missed that

[Ig89ninja]

Wow! They sure both, uh... Have broad shoulders... And leg tires.. and claws... and back protrusions I guess...
They're vaguely similar-ish, but that's about it. And those are heavily-simplified Legends-size figures to boot (Overload doesn't have the second set of arms for instance). They're still different designs with different transformation needs, and different vehicle modes (articulated dump truck vs fixed-wheelbase minesweeper truck). And the series might go with Overload's other concept robot mode design, which was very distinct.

Studio Series Bonecrusher has already been revealed in full detail. Nothing about him suggests he could possibly form Devastator's pelvis or combine at all.

Fair enough, but it would be cool if they pulled this off

[o.supreme]

Bonecrusher's body type isn't even one of the Constructicon types in the film!

My point about "Movie 1" Optimus is that he's more accurate to both movie 1 and ROTF than the original SS Optimus. And that Jetfire combines with him rather than the existing "ROTF" one because that one lacks the connectors; it'd be like trying to combine Godbomber with the original Hasbro Powermaster Optimus Prime.

I think we're dancing around the same point. Basically the frustration of lack of Forward thinking by Hasbro/Takara. The current SS RotF Prime should have been designed knowing that fans (like myself) would want to combine it with Jetfire. In fact they should have released Movie 1 Prime first, so there would be no need to combine with Jetfire.

And yes, I'll agree about the Titans Return part. I really wanted a new God Ginrai, and was hoping that Legends GB would combine with TR PM Prime, when I found out they didn't I put off buying it, until of course the announcement of the Siege on Cybertron set. If not for being able to pre-order that set, I would not have a God Ginrai right now.