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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
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Re: New Images and Preorders Open for Studio Series Leaders Megatron and Jetfire
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Re: New Images and Preorders Open for Studio Series Leaders Megatron and Jetfire
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:47 pm
I want to love this Jetfire so much, but that beard when he's displaying that awesome SR-71 Blackbird mode can't fly. I can't un-see it, most of the rest of the bot being kibble under the jet I can ignore as elements can be kinda taken a landing gear, just not that beard. Leader DOTM Megs has some chunky legs. Looks like he has elephantiasis in BOTH legs, and then he's got backwards Popeye arms. I'm also leery of that cape/cloak as the weave on the fabric looks very loose, and there isn't any stitching on the edges of it to hold the fabric together, or to prevent edge fraying that I can see.
I do like Igor. The little body-less head is so adorably ugly, but not enough to warrant leaving the Megs to sit in the box in some storage tub.
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Re: New Images and Preorders Open for Studio Series Leaders Megatron and Jetfire
Posted by Sabrblade Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:48 pm
That's Jetifre's cane down there.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Deadput Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:07 pm
william-james88 wrote:fyi, the Studio Series #20 Golden Volkswagen Bumblebee found has been found for a few months at gamestop for $70
Ah I saw that one a couple weeks ago while I was Christmas shopping, I was tempted but it was to expensive for me at the time, there was two of them there, the regular Studio Series Bumblebee was there as well.
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Re: New Images and Preorders Open for Studio Series Leaders Megatron and Jetfire
Posted by Decepticon Stryker Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:08 am
Well at least he's not radioactive. That wouldn't be good!
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by o.supreme Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:37 am
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Deadput Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:29 pm
o.supreme wrote:For the record, I still find it odd that a seemingly "smaller" Megatron (always saw the tanker truck alt mode as smaller than movie 1 space ship or movie 2 space tank) gets a leader class figure. I figure because of mass shifting Megatron's robot mode was always pretty much the same size, I understand the need probably to try to find a way to sell more leader class, but its just off putting to me, should have kept this one voyager class.
It's probably due to the fact that the truck he transforms into is "God damn huge" since it's not just the truck but also the long tanker as well, it's longer then any other alt mode he has in the movies besides maybe the TLK plane which itself is "thinner" then the truck which is both big in mass and long.
He's still taller then Optimus in DOTM itself as well.
But yeah, I don't know how tall he is but I hope that he's still relatively in scale with the others.
Igor is the best as well and I will hear no objections otherwise about that cute, little, green...head.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:44 pm
o.supreme wrote:For the record, I still find it odd that a seemingly "smaller" Megatron (always saw the tanker truck alt mode as smaller than movie 1 space ship or movie 2 space tank) gets a leader class figure. I figure because of mass shifting Megatron's robot mode was always pretty much the same size, I understand the need probably to try to find a way to sell more leader class, but its just off putting to me, should have kept this one voyager class.
No, what they should have done is engineer it to better compress the mass (and just plain better engineer it). Megs' tanker truck mode is more or less the same size as his first 2 altmodes, but with the mass distributed differently (length instead of breadth).
Here's the problem with making him a Voyager:

I think if they'd really put their mind to it they could have done a Leader Megs that scaled properly with a Voyager Optimus (taller but not monstrously so, and also bulkier and broader). But alas.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by o.supreme Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:45 pm
Here is an interesting size chart. I disregarded all the animated Megatrons, since there really isn't any size scale there, but Movie Megatron being 35 feet tall in robot mode in movies 1-3 does seem to make sense.
I would think the Space Ship (movie 1) would be his largest alternate mode, with space tank being (from RotF) slightly smaller, and tanker truck from DotM being smaller still.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:32 pm
We actually see Megs' tank mode in close proximity to Optimus' truck mode in ROTF - it's wider and bulkier, but not much longer. So the mass would seem to about tally with a smaller cab and a trailer.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Deadput Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:43 pm
But yes Megatron's tank and jet modes from the first two movies are not actually that big, they have mass but they look bigger then they actually are, their Cybertronian modes without pilot cockpits so they can afford to be smaller.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:21 pm
I played with the DotM one a lot, Ramming him and my Leader Nightwatch Prime from the Allspark line (still the #1 figure I own D-Max Fact) into each other recreating the Ironhide and the Dreads scene from DotM. I have always wished he wasn't affected by the DotM smallening, but now we get to correct that. I am happy.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Deadput Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:57 pm
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I for one am just glad to have a new properly sized alternate mode DotM Megatron, who is a fantastic design. I love that design, and will hear no objections to this truth.
I played with the DotM one a lot, Ramming him and my Leader Nightwatch Prime from the Allspark line (still the #1 figure I own D-Max Fact) into each other recreating the Ironhide and the Dreads scene from DotM. I have always wished he wasn't affected by the DotM smallening, but now we get to correct that. I am happy.
Sometimes I wish that other Megatron's would use this design or one inspired by it as a "defeated/exiled" Megatron, or as a new neutral, wanderer, character who doesn't fight for any side yet isn't a bounty hunter.
It's such a good and unique design.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Sabrblade Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:54 pm
BotCon 2015 Megs paid homage to it.Deadput wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I for one am just glad to have a new properly sized alternate mode DotM Megatron, who is a fantastic design. I love that design, and will hear no objections to this truth.
I played with the DotM one a lot, Ramming him and my Leader Nightwatch Prime from the Allspark line (still the #1 figure I own D-Max Fact) into each other recreating the Ironhide and the Dreads scene from DotM. I have always wished he wasn't affected by the DotM smallening, but now we get to correct that. I am happy.
Sometimes I wish that other Megatron's would use this design or one inspired by it as a "defeated/exiled" Megatron, or as a new neutral, wanderer, character who doesn't fight for any side yet isn't a bounty hunter.
It's such a good and unique design.
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New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron English Review
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Acolyte Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:07 am
1. Camaro Bumblebee
2. VW Beetle Bumblebee
3. Retro Rock Garage Vol. 1
4. Retro Rock Garage Vol. 2
5. Charlie's Garage (extra parts and a Charlie)
6. Clunker Bumblebee
Six, SIX repaints... and 2 molds. Two greatly flawed molds, I might add. Megatron is no different. A greatly flawed mold (if still a definitive look for the figure) that we really don't need a repaint of. This should have been the original color scheme, with the face intact given that this damaged condition lasts for all of maybe 20 seconds of screen time out of the entire cinematic universe (somewhere somebody said, "We're not going to call the DotM Megatron our 'battle damage' Megatron?"). I mean WWII bee was more established!
He's an ugly dude, I'll give him that. Absolutely nothing is attracting me to double dip on this mold though. What a mess. Should've thrown in another "minicon" for good measure, like the "Kill zee little one!" dude or something.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Actar Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:41 am




So, I was rather hesitant and critical about Jetfire when I first saw him, but after having him in hand for a day, I'm absolutely convinced. Jetfire is everything I wanted in the original Leader (albeit in a smaller package). Overall, he's much easier to transform than the previous Leader and everything but those two central panels that tab into the shoulders and engines hold together solidly. I'd even argue that the kibble is much better on this one.





While the fit and finish are subpar as per other figures in the Studio Series line, the bot mode is excellent. The transformation is really fun, smooth and impressive. I love how the jet mode folds in on itself multiple times to create the bulk of the body and I adore the fact that the thighs are actually formed from the jet mode engines unlike the previous Leader (they even sit accurately within the nacelle!). I'm still not that big of a fan of the faux cockpit head, but after knowing that Jetfire accurately parts-forms to combine with Optimus, it softens the blow somewhat.

Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!







...and it's amazing. Thank heavens they decided to go with parts-forming. Not only is it accurate to the movie, the combination gimmick does not take away from either figure much at all. The locks that secure Jetfire's limbs together when he's his own figure are brilliant. It's a clip system that holds all the parts together in bot/jet mode solidly but is still easy enough to disconnect for parts-forming when needed. In Jet Power Prime mode, everything is just as solid, though I'm slightly worried that Prime's leg joints (hip and knees) will not hold up over time as they aren't ratcheted. As for now, they're rock solid and almost too tight for when posing him alone. While the articulation in combined mode is mostly unhindered, it kinda sucks that the ankle tilts are opposite as Jetfire's legs are reversed for the combination.
Note that the instructions are utter garbage. Not only does it not tell you how to transform the cannon at all, but you can tweak the figure a little to get it looking much, much better. For instance, the bar behind Prime's head can be angled back. This not only tidies up the silhouette, but it also holds the rear wings/fins in place. Speaking of those fins, as can be seen from the above pictures, they can also be splayed open for a far more dynamic and movie-accurate look. It's a pretty nice touch that Prime's back kibble form secondary fins.



For the cannon, there is indeed a proper way to transform it. Upon close examination, the arms and flaps both have places to peg into.
All in all, thus far, Jetfire is my undisputed favorite Studio Series figure. So poseable, so much more accurate than the previous Leader figure and so full of character! All that on top of a much-improved combining gimmick! Now I only wished that they had put more effort into the Voyager Prime. I still don't get the necessity for the inaccurate leg transformation and the faux chest. In addition to being inaccurate, in my opinion, it's needlessly complex and fiddly for a Movie Prime and is as light as a feather. If you ask me, I'd only buy Prime solely to maximize Jetfire's playability. That's how great Jetfire is.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by Rodimus Prime Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:28 am
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by -Kanrabat- Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:29 am
It's that simple."
This may make me want to have that new Optimus and Jetfire even if I already have the Takara DOTM Buster 2 pack.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:03 am
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* Omega Lock
* Primus Cyber Key, coattail panel
* Powerlinx Comettor
* Leader Sentinel Prime sword, shield
* RiD Galvy dragon head, beast arms
* Leader Ironhide windshield, R hood assy.
* Cyb. Wing Saber left chestplate (argh)
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)
Posted by -Kanrabat- Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:38 am
It's that simple."
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Partsforming or no, that combination isn't any more accurate than the combined ROTF Leaders. It's just inaccurate in different ways. Having a Jetfire that also transforms into accurate Jetpower armor is [b]impossible[b]. Getting anywhere even close would require such an extreme degree of partsforming that Jetfire would practically be a Lego set.
ANY Movie Transformers cannot and will never be 100% screen accurate. The only ones are the non-transforming 1000$ articulated "statues" from 3A and the like.
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