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[TFmonkeybiz]

The blue Starscream's probably gonna be Thundercracker (duh) and I have a feeling the green Blackout's gonna be Grindor as he was coloured a similar way in the Titan comics.

[Autobot N]

The line up has:
Cogman

Huh. Hadn't planned on getting any of these, but I'll have to see more of that Cogman.

[Deadput]

Dude, the scout class was the frickin best, especially in the tf heyday of rotf, those scouts were amazing

They were the best most of my fave figures have been scouts!

R.I.P my Breacher though the limbs on mine snapped and he was my second fave scout with only Hardtop ahead

[Carnivius_Prime]

Dude, the scout class was the frickin best, especially in the tf heyday of rotf, those scouts were amazing

They were the best most of my fave figures have been scouts!

R.I.P my Breacher though the limbs on mine snapped and he was my second fave scout with only Hardtop ahead

Breacher eh?

Breach squad reporting for duty!

(two are missing their weapon and forearm kibble, only the middle one is complete)

[Carnivius_Prime]

Only thing left is to clip the rooftop in place and there you go. The gun don't even rattle inside.

At first glance, Barricade is a pretty standard toy. But secret features keep popping up! Any others left?

This is neat.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Barricade should not disappoint

I was dissapointed

You know, it makes me think. If you would have gotten your hands on him first, the official Seibertron Pictorial review would have been very very different. But then again, maybe you liked him because I lowered your expectations

Ooooooooh no no no no no no no.

Shia, is that you?

Hot Rod (the very first official Movie Hot Rod Toy revealed from Hasbro)

Very glad we are getting more. Lets see, I will get Sqweeks (adorable!!!!) Megatron, shockwave, Berserker, Drift, cogman, Barricade, and Hot Rod (are we really sure? there is no orange to be found on that thing)

also may need to actually get a Prime and Bee from the current wave. Maybe.

[william-james88]

Hot Rod (are we really sure? there is no orange to be found on that thing)

Who else could it be? Its an autobot and a car and doesnt have a visor. It could be someone else, sure, but I cant think of who. What looks cool here is that it might be his original alt mode, the citroen, and not the lambo. That could also explain his different deco.

[Kurona]

Could be Sideswipe.

[william-james88]

Could be Sideswipe.

impossible, we already have him

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Could be Sideswipe.

My Grimlock-mounted Sideswipe cries at your missing his first picture post

[william-james88]

its Hot Rod for sure, he's the only other visorless car autobot left that has the headlights on his chest. Plus they are angled the same way.

[RAR]

I wonder why Barry has 'To Punish and enslave' on the side and not "Keep Calm and Hail Megatron" like the actual character has ?

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Also if Jungle Bonecrusher and Desert Brawl are a sign of them in some sense of them not being dead then is the green Blackout/Grindor a sign of them not being dead either - or is it a sign they are going to make a 3rd Helicopter bro for the new Movie ?

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I would have liked the Optimus to be a repaint or a chase though perhaps with a silverknight deco or a different shade of blue with purple eyes.

Speaking of Nemesis Prime I wonder if Hasbro will go more non-canon with the toys and make a Cliffjumper or a Nemesis Prime out of the moulds they have. ?

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If they make more of them I hope they do Brains too - and if they really really want to please me - I'd hope for the Kitchen crew.

[Carnivius_Prime]

I wonder why Barry has 'To Punish and enslave' on the side and not "Keep Calm and Hail Megatron" like the actual character has ?

Cos Hasbro has a secret deal with Reprolabels to not paint/deco their toys correctly to try make you have to buy stickers to fix them? Is just a theory.

Wish the shops round here would get some of those Tiny Turbos in stock. They could be sold anywhere. Newsagents, grocers and such. I miss 10 years ago where my then local Tescos Express wouldn't really sell toys (being that it was a small convienence store version of Tescos) but had various small ones for a few quid each like Hot Wheels cars, Lego minifigs and 2007 Legends class movie TFs. Was nice to pick up a small fun toy with my boring bread and milk and Tiny Turbos fit that bill perfectly (especially since the modern equivalent of those Legends figures is silly money now)

[RAR]

So far I've seen them in ASDA & TESCO supermarkets of medium-large size - I've not checked a titchy ASDA like the one in Newmarket Suffolk (for example) - I would guess Sainsbury's must sell them too as they are crazy about blind bag stuff in there.

I'm not really paying a lot of attention lately as the prices are delusional at the moment and what I really want to buy I Titans Returns anyway.

But I think i'll likely get the wee Blind bag Blackout or Starscream when I go out for some milk. Now I know the way to ID them more easily.

[Deadput]

I wonder why Barry has 'To Punish and enslave' on the side and not "Keep Calm and Hail Megatron" like the actual character has ?

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He actually does have Punish and Enslave on him at some point in the movie since when we first saw him during filming he had that logo on his vehicle mode so he only changes his line to "Keep Calm and Hail Megatron" at a later point in the movie.

Can I say how stupid "Keep Calm and Hail Megatron" is?

Damn memes.

Also if Jungle Bonecrusher and Desert Brawl are a sign of them in some sense of them not being dead then is the green Blackout/Grindor a sign of them not being dead either - or is it a sign they are going to make a 3rd Helicopter bro for the new Movie ?

That...doesn't actually mean anything it's just a toy in a line of toys with dead and missing characters and non canon repaints.

Grindor was the Blackout repaint and is a separate character from Blackout just like the Desert Brawl and ROTF Bonecrusher "clones" not being the same characters unless the con does not transform in the movie and is a hi and bye character there is no other Blackout/Grindor Coptor bro's.

[Deadput]

This is the third Berserker figure...

I'm getting more and more convinced he is in the movie with three figures with original molds and the fact his "alt form" was on set for a little bit.



As well as the random red X on his body being on his "cgi" model

Why go through all this trouble and effort for this con over Onslaught, Hooligan, Mohawk and Nitro as well although the latter does have a possible voyager coming?
http://i.imgur.com/8w2K4WB.png

It's nearly as much marketing as Megatron and Barricade.

[Kurona]

Yeah, it's a fair bet by this point he'll be in the movie, even if just as a generic mook -- I'll be surprised if he isn't in any capacity.

[Deadput]

Yeah, it's a fair bet by this point he'll be in the movie, even if just as a generic mook -- I'll be surprised if he isn't in any capacity.

He is described as a "Raging Berserker" so maybe he gets killed off early in the film like Sideways in ROTF by going "Berserk" against some Autobots or humans.

Just speculation and guessing not claiming that's what happens.

Now that I think about it Sideways also was in the first wave of ROTF toys and had some fair marketing put into him but then again these were the ROTF golden age days where Hasbro had better designers and budget then they do now. (Just guessing on the budget I don't know if they have more or less)

Then again Sideways originally had Demolishor's role and vice versa before being cut out then being written back in.

[Kurona]

Yeah, it's a fair bet by this point he'll be in the movie, even if just as a generic mook -- I'll be surprised if he isn't in any capacity.

He is described as a "Raging Berserker" so maybe he gets killed off early in the film like Sideways in ROTF by going "Berserk" against some Autobots or humans.

Just speculation and guessing not claiming that's what happens.

Now that I think about it Sideways also was in the first wave of ROTF toys and had some fair marketing put into him but then again these were the ROTF golden age days where Hasbro had better designers and budget then they do now. (Just guessing on the budget I don't know if they have more or less)

Then again Sideways originally had Demolishor's role and vice versa before being cut out then being written back in.

Yup, sometimes minor characters have a strange amount of marketing put into them despite their minimal role. Cliffjumper in TFP for instance, though that may have been intentional considering how hush-hush they were about his fate.

[Deadput]

Yup, sometimes minor characters have a strange amount of marketing put into them despite their minimal role. Cliffjumper in TFP for instance, though that may have been intentional considering how hush-hush they were about his fate.

I dislike it when they do stuff like this raising ones hopes and then dropping them back in 2007 when I was younger and had little access to internet (Strict parents) I thought Wreckage was in the film since he was part of the first wave with other film characters so I was confused when he never showed up.

Happened again with Sideways and Breakaway and although I learned of Breakaway's absence before the film and was then disappointed since he would of been my fave of the ROTF Autobot newcomers Sideways caught me off guard when the movie came out and I was once again disappointed at having my hopes raised again.

I hope Breakway gets another shot he is one of my fave characters and has an awesome design and personality/voice (ROTF Game)

Happened again with DOTM with Shockwave, Dino and the Twins...yeah yeah I liked them I also liked Jar Jar and I'm still disappointed knowing they could have great send offs and redemptions to their character but noooo presumably Paramount was scared about what a vocal minority might think and cut them out instead of something smart like changing their dialogue or limiting their scenes and satisfy those vocal minorities by killing them.

Transformers Prime happened and what they did with Cliffjumper was awful, annoying and unforgivable and I should of known it when I heard the Rock was going to voice him if they were going to kill him they could of waited until the Season 1 end or at least the end of the 5 episode pilot so we could actually care about Cliff and not been wasted for a cheap and fake anyone could die scheme that never happened to anyone else.

Then AOE happened and the false lead up with "Rollbar" was also stupid and we got worse not-husbano "Lucky Charms" instead of a cool Autobot who might of been killed by Lockdown early but still would of been worth it more then a useless character contributing nothing useful afterwards. Stinger was another disappointment but I do know that many scenes of him were cut at least in alt mode which probably happened when the deal with Walmart went south.

These days my expectations are lowered but sometimes I can't help but get hyped and I'm sure there will be something in TLK that disappoints me so I'm going in with standard expectations.

Sorry if this is rant-ish but this is the most annoying thing about the franchise to me as well as the cliche and limited "5-man bands" that almost never grow that shows think should be the standard.

[william-james88]

I dont think he will be in the film. I think it was a design they had initially that the film eventually dropped but it was too late to change the toy. It happened with Jurassic World. This guy wasnt in the movie:

[Kurona]

I dont think he will be in the film. I think it was a design they had initially that the film eventually dropped but it was too late to change the toy. It happened with Jurassic World. This guy wasnt in the movie:

And, for an example closer to home that Deadput actually mentioned; Wreckage was based upon a design dropped early in the development of the first movie. This sort of thing does happen.

Though, the vehicle mode for Berserker has been seen on set, so...

[Bumblebee21]

those dinobots are gonna shelfwarm. does anyone know what hasbro was thinking by doing that. i would get it if there was improvements or new heads and such. its just a big slap in the face to people like me who bought the other versions. at least scorn is red and not grey so i wont have to buy them all again.

slash slog hot shot and snarl werent in the movies either but they got toys

[william-james88]

Though, the vehicle mode for Berserker has been seen on set, so...

So were the vehicle modes for the following toys in Age of Extinction.

[Deadput]

slash slog hot shot and snarl werent in the movies either but they got toys

Hot shot was a repaint though that's little effort to take an existing design and change the colors and call it someone else.

Slash is an example like Wreckage of being a concept design being cut from the movie and being turned into a toy, Slash and Slog maybe were also the same thing but otherwise it's probably Hasbro trying to push the Dinobot thing for marketing at the time.

But Berserker ain't no Dinobot or any previous character and there are other Decepticons in the film so why is a not film character a priority over one of the members of the "Decepticon Gang" and in a line with mostly repaints and retools Berserker suddenly warrants an original mold for himself?

Three times and for what?