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[Prowl4]

The pointer did nothing.

Except for indicating to us, the audience, where the damage to Bee was located, which is all that it was supposed to do.

The fact he couldn't speak normally like the others wasn't a clue?

[Deadput]

from tfwiki:

With this picture I would like to remind everyone that Optimus has door handle nipples...


See kibble!


You'll never un-see them now your welcome

[Prowl4]

Ratchet actively runs and abandons jazz to face megatron alone. Before that ironhide and jazz are taking on brawl just after bee had his legs blown off.

A medic wouldn't allow that even without a look at jetfire or attempting to save him.

In DOTM in Chicago, in ROTF in the desert and his clear lack of duties in the first movie attacking brawl instead of helping bee and wanting the parents killed. He's a bad character as a medic. If they called him hound it would've made more sense because he didn't act like ratchet.

Jazz ordered everyone to fall back Jazz:"It's Megatron fall back!" like with Jetfire Jazz chose to face Megatron alone that's why it cuts to Lennox yelling to fallback while looking in the direction Jazz was in because he was talking to Jazz specifically Jazz sacrificed himself even many of his toy bios mention this because that was the point.

Jetfire also sacrificed his life on purpose and he would of anyways because he literally says "In all my Decepticon life I've never done a thing worth doing until now" like the dude is wanting to commit suicide to save the world let him do that and also don't compare things to real life because it's a movie things happen as the plot wills it like giant robots being a thing.

Uhhh Ratchet did not have anytime to check up on Bee because I don't know there's a group of Decepticons trying to kill them all and steal the Allspark Bumblebee's state was not a priority and for all we know attaching Bee's legs would probably take awhile and say Brawl shoots Ratchet in the back while trying to help Bee then the medic's dead great job!

Ratchet was trying to get Hide to stop aiming at the parents with the "yeah yeah yeah" being what some people do sometimes in an conversation for example.

Dude 1: "I took down Megatron myself!"

Dude 2: "Yeah yeah sure"

Not going to argue anymore because were getting off topic and also your wrong and I don't mean in "my opinion" your wrong I mean factually your wrong according to the on screen events of the movies so I'm backing away because you probably won't change your mind.

So you're saying ratchet being cowardly and running from megatron instead of helping the diminutive jazz was a sensible thing to do given medics are supposed to help

He didn't even attempt to look at or stay jetfires hand despite jetfire being a potential massive ally. Medics are supposed to save lives not idly stand by.

There was no cons at that point around. Mikaela had time to tie bee up with no assistance. Ratchet didn't assist there and this was before brawl got back up and before blackouts arrival. Bonecrusher already beaten by prime and barricade missing. Starscream had absconded from the fight at that point. So that's a nonsensical point.

Ratchet points ironhide's canon in the window egging him on to kill the parents there's nothing clearer than that, you're delusional and leaving now because you know you're incorrect and have repeatedly been proven wrong. It's OK for you to be wrong.

[EunuchRon]

... but there is just too much grey on this toy. It needs some red or different shades of grey at least.

Ok, I can't pass this one up. The next Transformers movie should be a strange love story between Megs and some hot female Decepticon jet chick. It will be called...

drum roll please....


Fifty Shades of Bay!

[Hellscream9999]

I just realized that the voyager hounds that got 'released' in asia before this deco change are now going to be super rare

[Burn]

Ratchet actively runs and abandons jazz to face megatron alone. Before that ironhide and jazz are taking on brawl just after bee had his legs blown off.

A medic wouldn't allow that even without a look at jetfire or attempting to save him.

In DOTM in Chicago, in ROTF in the desert and his clear lack of duties in the first movie attacking brawl instead of helping bee and wanting the parents killed. He's a bad character as a medic. If they called him hound it would've made more sense because he didn't act like ratchet.

Jazz ordered everyone to fall back Jazz:"It's Megatron fall back!" like with Jetfire Jazz chose to face Megatron alone that's why it cuts to Lennox yelling to fallback while looking in the direction Jazz was in because he was talking to Jazz specifically Jazz sacrificed himself even many of his toy bios mention this because that was the point.

Jetfire also sacrificed his life on purpose and he would of anyways because he literally says "In all my Decepticon life I've never done a thing worth doing until now" like the dude is wanting to commit suicide to save the world let him do that and also don't compare things to real life because it's a movie things happen as the plot wills it like giant robots being a thing.

Uhhh Ratchet did not have anytime to check up on Bee because I don't know there's a group of Decepticons trying to kill them all and steal the Allspark Bumblebee's state was not a priority and for all we know attaching Bee's legs would probably take awhile and say Brawl shoots Ratchet in the back while trying to help Bee then the medic's dead great job!

Ratchet was trying to get Hide to stop aiming at the parents with the "yeah yeah yeah" being what some people do sometimes in an conversation for example.

Dude 1: "I took down Megatron myself!"

Dude 2: "Yeah yeah sure"

Not going to argue anymore because were getting off topic and also your wrong and I don't mean in "my opinion" your wrong I mean factually your wrong according to the on screen events of the movies so I'm backing away because you probably won't change your mind.

So you're saying ratchet being cowardly and running from megatron instead of helping the diminutive jazz was a sensible thing to do given medics are supposed to help

He didn't even attempt to look at or stay jetfires hand despite jetfire being a potential massive ally. Medics are supposed to save lives not idly stand by.

There was no cons at that point around. Mikaela had time to tie bee up with no assistance. Ratchet didn't assist there and this was before brawl got back up and before blackouts arrival. Bonecrusher already beaten by prime and barricade missing. Starscream had absconded from the fight at that point. So that's a nonsensical point.

Ratchet points ironhide's canon in the window egging him on to kill the parents there's nothing clearer than that, you're delusional and leaving now because you know you're incorrect and have repeatedly been proven wrong. It's OK for you to be wrong.

Please stop discussing previous movies in the thread dedicated to the upcoming movies toy line(s).

[Bumblebee21]

@carnivius is this what you are trying to do

yeah, but i don't have anywhere near the skills to match that one.
Though it seems to have differences from the screengrabs I have, like they've made the shoulders steel coloured when they're blue on the ref pics I used. And they've left the upper parts of the forearms blue when they're steel coloured on the screenshot and there should be flames on the shoulderpads. Amazing paintjob though. The detail and cleaniness...


from tfwiki:

yeah. it almost looks like it jumps off the screen and what hasblo should give us

Just wait for TT's improved version, they've done one/several for each movie, and they are always gorgeous; I'm sure someone can corroborate this for me.

it cost too much

[Deadput]

Whatever you say prowl4

Sooo anyone think we are getting Hot Rod and Onslaught figures? Can't see them not getting one yet Nitro gets a toy for himself unless he is as important as Megatron and Barricade in this film although from the imax footage Hot Rod seems to be fairly important at least as much as the AOE new Bots in their debut.

If we get a Hooligan figure do you think it will be an original mold as the rusty VW van or just a repaint of Berserker with a new head?

Who do you think is the third MMP? I would assume Barricade in his 2007 look and if not I would say Jazz if Pontiac was still a thing.

[-Kanrabat-]

it cost too much

Were you referring to any Takara toys or the Hasbro one?
Because with the hefty price hike of the Movie figures, the Takara are now the SAME PRICE as the Hasbro ones. Not counting shipping of course.

[william-james88]

Just wait for TT's improved version, they've done one/several for each movie, and they are always gorgeous; I'm sure someone can corroborate this for me.

Quite the opposite. Takara's deco for their version of Hasbro's Optimus is never that much of an improvement.
Here are the Leader Optimus toys of the past from Takara:







And they prove that once again with this line where their Optimus has nothing different



Of course, they can release a nicer deco later, either as a special edition or a different version of their mainline figure, which they have. But so has Hasbro.

But the main point is this: The Takara version of Hasbro movie releases are rarely worth the import.

[Hellscream9999]

Just wait for TT's improved version, they've done one/several for each movie, and they are always gorgeous; I'm sure someone can corroborate this for me.

Quite the opposite. Takara's deco for their version of Hasbro's Optimus is never that much of an improvement.
Here are the Leader Optimus toys of the past from Takara:

Of course, they can release a nicer deco later, which they have. But so has Hasbro.

The main pint is this: The Takara version of Hasbro movie releases are rarely worth the import.

I'm referring to the ones they release later in the lines. Specifically the rotf mold with the gas tank guns and articulated fingers that they did, and the aoe leader that had the head with multiple faceplates, and articulated fingers, and the dotm one with hooks and gas tank guns and the additional vehicle mode armor. They do release improved versions with each movie, I'm sure this one will be no different.

[william-james88]

Just wait for TT's improved version, they've done one/several for each movie, and they are always gorgeous; I'm sure someone can corroborate this for me.

Quite the opposite. Takara's deco for their version of Hasbro's Optimus is never that much of an improvement.
Here are the Leader Optimus toys of the past from Takara:

Of course, they can release a nicer deco later, which they have. But so has Hasbro.

The main pint is this: The Takara version of Hasbro movie releases are rarely worth the import.

I'm referring to the ones they release later in the lines. Specifically the rotf mold with the gas tank guns and articulated fingers that they did, and the aoe leader that had the head with multiple faceplates, and articulated fingers, and the dotm one with hooks and gas tank guns and the additional vehicle mode armor. They do release improved versions with each movie, I'm sure this one will be no different.

Ok, but that means we all have to wait a year or two or three (like those DOTM ones). Also, the ROTF with gas tank you reffer to was not a takara release but a hasbro release called Buster Optimus Prime. hence why I wrote that its not necessarily Takara, but Hasbro that released special decos too. But always later. And Takara didnt release an improved version of the first Leader Optimus.

So there are no rules. I instead think that the improved version of the Voyager Mold we want for this film will be coming from Hasbro, which was the case last time for the AOE Voyager, where Hasbro's better edition surpassed Takara's.

[Hellscream9999]

Just wait for TT's improved version, they've done one/several for each movie, and they are always gorgeous; I'm sure someone can corroborate this for me.

Quite the opposite. Takara's deco for their version of Hasbro's Optimus is never that much of an improvement.
Here are the Leader Optimus toys of the past from Takara:

Of course, they can release a nicer deco later, which they have. But so has Hasbro.

The main pint is this: The Takara version of Hasbro movie releases are rarely worth the import.

I'm referring to the ones they release later in the lines. Specifically the rotf mold with the gas tank guns and articulated fingers that they did, and the aoe leader that had the head with multiple faceplates, and articulated fingers, and the dotm one with hooks and gas tank guns and the additional vehicle mode armor. They do release improved versions with each movie, I'm sure this one will be no different.

Ok, but that means we all have to wait a year or two or three (like those DOTM ones). Also, the ROTF with gas tank you reffer to was not a takara release but a hasbro release called Buster Optimus Prime. hence why I wrote that its not necessarily Takara, but Hasbro that released special decos too. But always later. And Takara didnt release an improved version of the first Leader Optimus.

So there are no rules. I instead think that the improved version of the Voyager Mold we want for this film will be coming from Hasbro, which was the case last time for the AOE Voyager, where Hasbro's better edition surpassed Takara's.

Hasbro never gave us the aoe leader mold with remolded head with 2 faces, or gauntlets, or anything improved, they just did 2 different leader molds, both of which sucked. And I coulda sworn the gas tank gun prime was released by TT originally

Whatever, this seems like something right up jelze's, or sabr's alley. All I know is that this new voyager if rife with things that can be upgraded, I'd kill for ball-jointed wrists, I don't wanna miss this figure, as the mold is so damn clever and solid, but the deco's offered right now blow so hard. Hoping for a black knight version.

[william-james88]

Whatever, this seems like something right up jelze's, or sabr's alley.

Why dont you trust me?

Because I make mistakes?

Well I do, and your right Buster Optimus was Takara not Hasbro. I thought it was Hasbro. Oh well.

How long do you guys want to wait to see what Takara does?

[Hellscream9999]

Whatever, this seems like something right up jelze's, or sabr's alley.

Why dont you trust me?

Because I make mistakes?

Well I do, and your right Buster Optimus was Takara not Hasbro. I thought it was Hasbro. Oh well.

How long do you guys want to wait to see what Takara does?

Not at all (being brutally honest, I trust you more than my scattered memories), but they just seem to have a penchant for memorizing stuff like this.

As for how long I'll wait? Until a deco is revealed that's worth my money (basically however long it takes for TT to paint it black and teal )

[william-james88]

As for how long I'll wait? Until a deco is revealed that's worth my money (basically however long it takes for TT to paint it black and teal )

Nice.

The yes, if waiting is an option, I am sure a deco we like more will happen eventually.

I have 3 months to wait for that because that is how long i have until I have to give my voyager prime back to walmart.

[Hellscream9999]

As for how long I'll wait? Until a deco is revealed that's worth my money (basically however long it takes for TT to paint it black and teal )

Nice.

The yes, if waiting is an option, I am sure a deco we like more will happen eventually.

I have 3 months to wait for that because that is how long i have until I have to give my voyager prime back to walmart.

Yeah, TT has a thing for black knight repaints, they have to release one, they're compelled to

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I can't wait for voyager Megs and Hound. And Sqweeks. They all look cool and I'm excited to own them.

Also, I used the tiny turbo changers trick. You do need to be careful cause the lighting is difficult. I think it was Crosshairs I saw in the window was obviously green but his letter looked like it could be 3 different letters. Last bag I got was Sideswipe too, I was panicking cause I couldn't find him.

but seriously, pick up one or 2 of these guys. they are pocket change and are loads of fun

[Hellscream9999]

I can't wait for voyager Megs and Hound. And Sqweeks. They all look cool and I'm excited to own them.

Also, I used the tiny turbo changers trick. You do need to be careful cause the lighting is difficult. I think it was Crosshairs I saw in the window was obviously green but his letter looked like it could be 3 different letters. Last bag I got was Sideswipe too, I was panicking cause I couldn't find him.

but seriously, pick up one or 2 of these guys. they are pocket change and are loads of fun

They seem like a lot of fun, but I'd like to see better picks of they're bot modes, gonna pick up a couple tomorrow along with barricade, I'm sold on him.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Barricade should not disappoint. He is awesome!

also:

[Hellscream9999]

Barricade should not disappoint. He is awesome!

also:

When you've obtained zen happiness with this franchise

[-Kanrabat-]

I told myself that I'd wait for a "special edition" before buying voyager TLK Optimus. But in the end, I'm glad I didn't. It's a fantastic figure and I'm very happy to enjoy it NOW. The paint is still fairly good and I was lucky enough to have it on sale. Even if the sale only made it cost as much as the previous normal price point.

If an incredible looking special edition of TLK voyager Optimus do come out, I may double-dip without regrets.

[william-james88]

Barricade should not disappoint

I was dissapointed

You know, it makes me think. If you would have gotten your hands on him first, the official Seibertron Pictorial review would have been very very different. But then again, maybe you liked him because I lowered your expectations

[Jelze Bunnycat]

As for how long I'll wait? Until a deco is revealed that's worth my money (basically however long it takes for TT to paint it black and teal )

Nice.

The yes, if waiting is an option, I am sure a deco we like more will happen eventually.

I have 3 months to wait for that because that is how long i have until I have to give my voyager prime back to walmart.

Then be prepared to hang on to it. I'm giving TakaraTomy 6 months to a year, those special retooled editions usually appear in the later half of a line.

[Hellscream9999]

Barricade should not disappoint

I was dissapointed

You know, it makes me think. If you would have gotten your hands on him first, the official Seibertron Pictorial review would have been very very different. But then again, maybe you liked him because I lowered your expectations

I mean, his kibble is pretty bad, especially when they could have used accordion joints to compress it, but, come on, tons (almost literal tons) of tf's just wear part of a shell on their back, it's just different now because we're being spoiled by engineering magic of late.

I honestly don't remember the other complaints, but, he looks cool and fun, that's literally all I need in a tf