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Burn wrote:Again with the lack of editing.

I'm with D-Max, no Headmaster Galvatron, or ANY characters that have not been a Headmaster in prior fiction.
That being said they'll probably make him a Headmaster in the comics to justify the toy, even though the notion of one of the toughest 'Cons becoming a Headmaster after 30 odd years is just wrong.

I usually edit it, but it didn't make much sense for me to mention the "drawing down below" in my signature, then post an image above my signature... In other words I know what I'm doing. Also the previous comment was like 20 minutes before the second one so yeah.

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:PLEASE Do not make a headmaster Galvatron! Please! Make a sunstreaker! I want a headmaster Sunstreaker so I can have Hunter!

Why not make both? I for one, want a voyager Galvatron. Headmaster or not. I want to be able to display him with CW Cyclonus when I get him. (And I wanna get Cyclonus, hence my drawing below.)

Given how looney the anime version of his was, a HM Galvatron is not surprising. Maybe a Brainmaster would fit him nicely.as in the brain always separate from the body running amuck

I really don't care if he's a headmaster or not. My point is I want a voyager Galvatron, and if he's gonna come out in the Titan Wars line as a voyager, he's gonna most likely be a headmaster. I'm just acknowledging the inevitable.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:Again with the lack of editing.

I'm with D-Max, no Headmaster Galvatron, or ANY characters that have not been a Headmaster in prior fiction.
That being said they'll probably make him a Headmaster in the comics to justify the toy, even though the notion of one of the toughest 'Cons becoming a Headmaster after 30 odd years is just wrong.

I really doubt the comics would do that. Galvatron destroyed all the ancient headmasters, and hates them with a burning desire. If anything he would kill them

That's a good point, but it's not my fault if Hasbro makes him a Headmaster. I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

'm not saying he should be a deluxe, I think leader is far more fitting of a character such as Galvatron. Also since they just released a leader Megatron I think it would be weird to do a Galvatron smaller

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

'm not saying he should be a deluxe, I think leader is far more fitting of a character such as Galvatron. Also since they just released a leader Megatron I think it would be weird to do a Galvatron smaller

I don't really think it would scale well with all the other figures. Now I am NOT a scale freak, but I think scaling pretty well with the majority of figures helps out aesthetically. It worked well for magnus and jetfire, because they were of an above-average size, so they could get away with it. Galvatron never towered over anyone, and while I realize this does not necessarily have any bearing on the toyline, I just never felt that it worked very well to begin with

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

'm not saying he should be a deluxe, I think leader is far more fitting of a character such as Galvatron. Also since they just released a leader Megatron I think it would be weird to do a Galvatron smaller

I don't really think it would scale well with all the other figures. Now I am NOT a scale freak, but I think scaling pretty well with the majority of figures helps out aesthetically. It worked well for magnus and jetfire, because they were of an above-average size, so they could get away with it. Galvatron never towered over anyone, and while I realize this does not necessarily have any bearing on the toyline, I just never felt that it worked very well to begin with

Let's be realistic there's no such thing as scale in Transformers toys. People can try and deny that fact but it's true. If there was scale then we couldn't have combiners because of how massive they are in fiction. And there's the distinction, in fiction there's scale in toys there is not.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

'm not saying he should be a deluxe, I think leader is far more fitting of a character such as Galvatron. Also since they just released a leader Megatron I think it would be weird to do a Galvatron smaller

I don't really think it would scale well with all the other figures. Now I am NOT a scale freak, but I think scaling pretty well with the majority of figures helps out aesthetically. It worked well for magnus and jetfire, because they were of an above-average size, so they could get away with it. Galvatron never towered over anyone, and while I realize this does not necessarily have any bearing on the toyline, I just never felt that it worked very well to begin with

Let's be realistic there's no such thing as scale in Transformers toys. People can try and deny that fact but it's true. If there was scale then we couldn't have combiners because of how massive they are in fiction. And there's the distinction, in fiction there's scale in toys there is not.

I know all of that, and even stand behind it on certain topics (BW, combiners, etc.) I just meant that within the robot modes (and nothing else) themselves, it would be nice if they had some semblance of scale between them so that they look nice within a display/collection.

I mean Cyclonus was a little taller than glavatron (overall) in the show (certainly not the best arguement, but I digress) so to have a leader class galvatron next to a voyager (CW) or a tall deluxe (gen), it would look laughable (kinda like what happened when CW cyclonus came out and we had this debate in reverse)

Now, I realize that the leader class is a thing again, and I don't want to take away from that, but even I like a little bit of scale in my robot modes when they're standing together on my desk. Considering how terrible the leader megs' looked to me (those shoulders', body, and legs all looked absolutely godawful), I would hate to have an awesome character like galvatron squandered on a lame repaint. I should think that a large voyager or even an ultra class ( ) would be a nice compromise between the two camps.

A lot of people still try to keep scale consistent to some degree with their Transformers collections, whether it be realistically comparable alt-mode sizes or robot mode sizes as depicted in the fiction. To that end, I can see how a voyager sized Galvatron is more desired by some collectors, because he would fit in well with Classics Optimus Prime and Megatron, whereas the newly released Leader Megatron is too big to fit in most "Classics" collections. You might argue that all that is needed in that case is a new leader sized Optimus Prime, but then larger characters like Jetfire or the Scramble City combiners will look too small. You can call me crazy, but I much prefer the Legends sized Warpath to the Deluxe version from several years ago, precisely because he scales more accurately with the rest of the minibot cast, despite loosing out on his iconic chest cannon.

On the other hand, I have put up with other scale oddities happily so far with my Classics collection, such as the Deluxe Seekers, who are admittedly a bit undersized, or Deluxe Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge, who all look great together, but are somewhat dwarfed by other characters who got the Voyager treatment. I would LOVE to get a Voyager upscale of the Deluxe seeker mold, with some more articulation added, but the overall aesthetic lovingly preserved. Scale will never be perfect, but it can at least be pleasingly relative.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

'm not saying he should be a deluxe, I think leader is far more fitting of a character such as Galvatron. Also since they just released a leader Megatron I think it would be weird to do a Galvatron smaller

I don't really think it would scale well with all the other figures. Now I am NOT a scale freak, but I think scaling pretty well with the majority of figures helps out aesthetically. It worked well for magnus and jetfire, because they were of an above-average size, so they could get away with it. Galvatron never towered over anyone, and while I realize this does not necessarily have any bearing on the toyline, I just never felt that it worked very well to begin with

Let's be realistic there's no such thing as scale in Transformers toys. People can try and deny that fact but it's true. If there was scale then we couldn't have combiners because of how massive they are in fiction. And there's the distinction, in fiction there's scale in toys there is not.

I know all of that, and even stand behind it on certain topics (BW, combiners, etc.) I just meant that within the robot modes (and nothing else) themselves, it would be nice if they had some semblance of scale between them so that they look nice within a display/collection.

I mean Cyclonus was a little taller than glavatron (overall) in the show (certainly not the best arguement, but I digress) so to have a leader class galvatron next to a voyager (CW) or a tall deluxe (gen), it would look laughable (kinda like what happened when CW cyclonus came out and we had this debate in reverse)

Now, I realize that the leader class is a thing again, and I don't want to take away from that, but even I like a little bit of scale in my robot modes when they're standing together on my desk. Considering how terrible the leader megs' looked to me (those shoulders', body, and legs all looked absolutely godawful), I would hate to have an awesome character like galvatron squandered on a lame repaint. I should think that a large voyager or even an ultra class ( ) would be a nice compromise between the two camps.

I think what it ultimately comes down to is what looks good to the individual. That might sound obvious but I think that could easily put the scale debate to rest. I personally would like to have a leader Galvatron because I think he would look great being the big boss man of my decepticon shelf ( my leader megs is sporting his autobot tampo) but I do understand why some people would want him smaller. I guess I just have an issue with people saying that a certain character should be or should never be a certain size because it's all objective. I'm not saying you do that I'm just generally speaking

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

'm not saying he should be a deluxe, I think leader is far more fitting of a character such as Galvatron. Also since they just released a leader Megatron I think it would be weird to do a Galvatron smaller

I don't really think it would scale well with all the other figures. Now I am NOT a scale freak, but I think scaling pretty well with the majority of figures helps out aesthetically. It worked well for magnus and jetfire, because they were of an above-average size, so they could get away with it. Galvatron never towered over anyone, and while I realize this does not necessarily have any bearing on the toyline, I just never felt that it worked very well to begin with

Let's be realistic there's no such thing as scale in Transformers toys. People can try and deny that fact but it's true. If there was scale then we couldn't have combiners because of how massive they are in fiction. And there's the distinction, in fiction there's scale in toys there is not.

I know all of that, and even stand behind it on certain topics (BW, combiners, etc.) I just meant that within the robot modes (and nothing else) themselves, it would be nice if they had some semblance of scale between them so that they look nice within a display/collection.

I mean Cyclonus was a little taller than glavatron (overall) in the show (certainly not the best arguement, but I digress) so to have a leader class galvatron next to a voyager (CW) or a tall deluxe (gen), it would look laughable (kinda like what happened when CW cyclonus came out and we had this debate in reverse)

Now, I realize that the leader class is a thing again, and I don't want to take away from that, but even I like a little bit of scale in my robot modes when they're standing together on my desk. Considering how terrible the leader megs' looked to me (those shoulders', body, and legs all looked absolutely godawful), I would hate to have an awesome character like galvatron squandered on a lame repaint. I should think that a large voyager or even an ultra class ( ) would be a nice compromise between the two camps.

I think what it ultimately comes down to is what looks good to the individual. That might sound obvious but I think that could easily put the scale debate to rest. I personally would like to have a leader Galvatron because I think he would look great being the big boss man of my decepticon shelf ( my leader megs is sporting his autobot tampo) but I do understand why some people would want him smaller. I guess I just have an issue with people saying that a certain character should be or should never be a certain size because it's all objective. I'm not saying you do that I'm just generally speaking

Indeed, I didn't really 'display' my figures until cw, but I never did like how all of 'cybertron' was one massive scale problem in bot mode, and still don't like it to this day. I mean look at rid'15, they are designing all (albeit grimlock) to scale in bot mode, so it's still an important factor. I don't want to take away the 'fun'ness of having a leader galvatron, if he looked awesome, I would probably try and get him, but I would forever be disappointed that he towers unusually over everyone which just doesn't feel or look right.

Personally, I feel that all figures should scale to some degree with each other in bot mode; we went for years without leader class figures (outside of movie's, but I don't think people were too anxious to put movie leaders with their classics collection) and everyone was fine with it, and they have collections that are 'in scale' and suddenly everyone comes plowin' in as a leader class figure, it loses the specialness of the size class, and disrupts the collection/display.

Now you can say that they shouldn't be defined by a size class, but has/tak have been designing whole line's to scale with each other (prime, rid'15, energon, Classics, gen, etc.) so you can't just say that scale can be tossed out the window; which is why I thought that an ultra, or large voyager would be a good compromise, it has the presence of a large figure, but can also scale relatively well in a collection.

steals_your_goats wrote:
I think what it ultimately comes down to is what looks good to the individual. That might sound obvious but I think that could easily put the scale debate to rest. I personally would like to have a leader Galvatron because I think he would look great being the big boss man of my decepticon shelf ( my leader megs is sporting his autobot tampo) but I do understand why some people would want him smaller. I guess I just have an issue with people saying that a certain character should be or should never be a certain size because it's all objective. I'm not saying you do that I'm just generally speaking

Wolfman Jake wrote:A lot of people still try to keep scale consistent to some degree with their Transformers collections, whether it be realistically comparable alt-mode sizes or robot mode sizes as depicted in the fiction. To that end, I can see how a voyager sized Galvatron is more desired by some collectors, because he would fit in well with Classics Optimus Prime and Megatron, whereas the newly released Leader Megatron is too big to fit in most "Classics" collections. You might argue that all that is needed in that case is a new leader sized Optimus Prime, but then larger characters like Jetfire or the Scramble City combiners will look too small. You can call me crazy, but I much prefer the Legends sized Warpath to the Deluxe version from several years ago, precisely because he scales more accurately with the rest of the minibot cast, despite loosing out on his iconic chest cannon.

On the other hand, I have put up with other scale oddities happily so far with my Classics collection, such as the Deluxe Seekers, who are admittedly a bit undersized, or Deluxe Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge, who all look great together, but are somewhat dwarfed by other characters who got the Voyager treatment. I would LOVE to get a Voyager upscale of the Deluxe seeker mold, with some more articulation added, but the overall aesthetic lovingly preserved. Scale will never be perfect, but it can at least be pleasingly relative.

Indeed, I didn't really 'display' my figures until cw, but I never did like how all of 'cybertron' was one massive scale problem in bot mode, and still don't like it to this day. I mean look at rid'15, they are designing all (albeit grimlock) to scale in bot mode, so it's still an important factor. I don't want to take away the 'fun'ness of having a leader galvatron, if he looked awesome, I would probably try and get him, but I would forever be disappointed that he towers unusually over everyone which just doesn't feel or look right.

Personally, I feel that all figures should scale to some degree with each other in bot mode; we went for years without leader class figures (outside of movie's, but I don't think people were too anxious to put movie leaders with their classics collection) and everyone was fine with it, and they have collections that are 'in scale' and suddenly everyone comes plowin' in as a leader class figure, it loses the specialness of the size class, and disrupts the collection/display.

Now you can say that they shouldn't be defined by a size class, but has/tak have been designing whole line's to scale with each other (prime, rid'15, energon, Classics, gen, etc.) so you can't just say that scale can be tossed out the window; which is why I thought that an ultra, or large voyager would be a good compromise, it has the presence of a large figure, but can also scale relatively well in a collection.

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

I want a voyager Galvatron to go with voyager Cyclonus so back off! (jk)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

Yes, and I also love the size. It's not too big, yet not too small, (that's what she said.) and it scales with Cyclonus.

SillySpringer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

I want a voyager Galvatron to go with voyager Cyclonus so back off! (jk)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

Yes, and I also love the size. It's not too big, yet not too small, (that's what she said.) and it scales with Cyclonus.

Depending on the picture you look at Galvatron is either the same height or shorter than cyclonus so if we want to use the scale argument then the deluxe Galvatron "scales"with cyclonus. You want a Voyager one because it's aesthetically pleasing to you, don't try and use the scale crutch.

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

I want a voyager Galvatron to go with voyager Cyclonus so back off! (jk)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

Yes, and I also love the size. It's not too big, yet not too small, (that's what she said.) and it scales with Cyclonus.

Depending on the picture you look at Galvatron is either the same height or shorter than cyclonus so if we want to use the scale argument then the deluxe Galvatron "scales"with cyclonus. You want a Voyager one because it's aesthetically pleasing to you, don't try and use the scale crutch.

Oh my GOSH, a small voyager would scale better with Cyclonus than a Leader OR deluxe. Why are you arguing with me about this? Voyager is obviously the best size with Cyclonus and Ultra Magnus. If you want a deluxe Galvatron to go with deluxe Cyclonus, get the CHUG one. Leader class is too big. (Unless compared to CW/UW Devastator, which he would scale perfectly with as a Leader. But even then, Devastator looked bigger in certain shots than in other shots. Sometimes Megatron looked voyager sized, and other times he looked Leader in comparison to Devy.)

I also want a Leader Rodimus, but in voyager size. What I mean by that is, he can have his normal voyager-sized Hot Rod mode, then you can combine his trailer with him to give him his Leader sized Rodimus Prime mode. That would be awesome.

SillySpringer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

I want a voyager Galvatron to go with voyager Cyclonus so back off! (jk)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

Yes, and I also love the size. It's not too big, yet not too small, (that's what she said.) and it scales with Cyclonus.

Depending on the picture you look at Galvatron is either the same height or shorter than cyclonus so if we want to use the scale argument then the deluxe Galvatron "scales"with cyclonus. You want a Voyager one because it's aesthetically pleasing to you, don't try and use the scale crutch.

Oh my GOSH, a small voyager would scale better with Cyclonus than a Leader OR deluxe. Why are you arguing with me about this? Voyager is obviously the best size with Cyclonus and Ultra Magnus. If you want a deluxe Galvatron to go with deluxe Cyclonus, get the CHUG one. Leader class is too big. (Unless compared to CW/UW Devastator, which he would scale perfectly with as a Leader. But even then, Devastator looked bigger in certain shots than in other shots. Sometimes Megatron looked voyager sized, and other times he looked Leader in comparison to Devy.)

I never said I wanted a deluxe Galvatron I'm just pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Also I assume you misspoke when you said ultra Magnus because leader is a perfect size for him. In case you forgot he's the bot who TOWERS over pretty much everyone else.

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

I want a voyager Galvatron to go with voyager Cyclonus so back off! (jk)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SillySpringer wrote: I just want a good voyager Galvatron.

What is with your fixation on Voyager class? All you talk about is wanting characters to be made Voyager class and most of them have no business being size. Not everyone has to be a Voyager

Well to be fair, look what happened when they tried a deluxe galvatron

I think galvatron as a tank or cannon has the right and design to be a voyager figure. They just have a good presence about them;

Yes, and I also love the size. It's not too big, yet not too small, (that's what she said.) and it scales with Cyclonus.

Depending on the picture you look at Galvatron is either the same height or shorter than cyclonus so if we want to use the scale argument then the deluxe Galvatron "scales"with cyclonus. You want a Voyager one because it's aesthetically pleasing to you, don't try and use the scale crutch.

Oh my GOSH, a small voyager would scale better with Cyclonus than a Leader OR deluxe. Why are you arguing with me about this? Voyager is obviously the best size with Cyclonus and Ultra Magnus. If you want a deluxe Galvatron to go with deluxe Cyclonus, get the CHUG one. Leader class is too big. (Unless compared to CW/UW Devastator, which he would scale perfectly with as a Leader. But even then, Devastator looked bigger in certain shots than in other shots. Sometimes Megatron looked voyager sized, and other times he looked Leader in comparison to Devy.)

I never said I wanted a deluxe Galvatron I'm just pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Also I assume you misspoke when you said ultra Magnus because leader is a perfect size for him. In case you forgot he's the bot who TOWERS over pretty much everyone else.

I know Ultra Magnus towers over everyone, that's my point. A voyager Galvatron would scale well with the Leader Ultra Magnus.

The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

william-james88 wrote:The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

Yeah, apparently people have forgotten armada-cybertron

william-james88 wrote:The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

I know, cuz Cyclonus as a combiner doesn't make much sense, unless it has backstory, like Galvatron haunts him in the form of Galvatronus. I would dig it if they introduced Cyclonus in the Combiner Wars comic with that "haunted by Galvatron" backstory. Maybe Galvatron's ghost is what enables Cyclonus to use the "mind control" thing to combine with any other transformers deluxe sized figure.

william-james88 wrote:The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

My thing is Galvatron has always hated headmasters, like very version. whether it be the abomination of having organics with you or that it's combining, it just goes against pretty much every galvatron. And I really want a leader to match Megs. the combiners, yes i'm ok with with. Heck, it adds a level of coolness. But I'm just really irked by a headmaster Galvatron. idk if that makes sense

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

My thing is Galvatron has always hated headmasters, like very version. whether it be the abomination of having organics with you or that it's combining, it just goes against pretty much every galvatron. And I really want a leader to match Megs. the combiners, yes i'm ok with with. Heck, it adds a level of coolness. But I'm just really irked by a headmaster Galvatron. idk if that makes sense

Of course it makes sense, we are all entitled to not want the things we cherish not be respected.

I also hope it isnt a headmaster simply because I want a definitive Galvatron and a definitive version would not have a head be made up of a tiny robot.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

My thing is Galvatron has always hated headmasters, like very version. whether it be the abomination of having organics with you or that it's combining, it just goes against pretty much every galvatron. And I really want a leader to match Megs. the combiners, yes i'm ok with with. Heck, it adds a level of coolness. But I'm just really irked by a headmaster Galvatron. idk if that makes sense

Of course it makes sense, we are all entitled to not want the things we cherish not be respected.

I also hope it isnt a headmaster simply because I want a definitive Galvatron and a definitive version would not have a head be made up of a tiny robot.

Yeah, galvatron has yet to get a truly awesome, great, standalone toy. He needs one, and considering what they did with Megs and Magnus, I have faith that they could do it

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The reason why none of this "now he's a headmaster when he wasnt before" startles me is because this is what Combiner War has been about for the 84 autobots. You now have 10 autobots that werent cmbiners that are now in a toyline. I dont see how that is ok but the headmaster wouldnt be. Its Hasbro using well knowing characters and introducing a new gimick with them. And it wouldnt be the first time. In G1, they rereleased a bunch of their characters as Targetmasters when they werent before.

My thing is Galvatron has always hated headmasters, like very version. whether it be the abomination of having organics with you or that it's combining, it just goes against pretty much every galvatron. And I really want a leader to match Megs. the combiners, yes i'm ok with with. Heck, it adds a level of coolness. But I'm just really irked by a headmaster Galvatron. idk if that makes sense

Of course it makes sense, we are all entitled to not want the things we cherish not be respected.

I also hope it isnt a headmaster simply because I want a definitive Galvatron and a definitive version would not have a head be made up of a tiny robot.

Yeah, galvatron has yet to get a truly awesome, great, standalone toy. He needs one, and considering what they did with Megs and Magnus, I have faith that they could do it

I think that too. Although they did make a great stand alone toy of his, I just wasnt collecting then:


Transformers Energon Galvatron (Galvatron General) Gallery

I just realized him being a redeco of Megatron doesnt make him standalone. But the Megatron mold was meant as a Glvatron homage. So a Galvatron homage mold in Galvatron deco is technically simply a straight up Galvatron toy right?

william-james88 wrote:
I just realized him being a redeco of Megatron doesnt make him standalone. But the Megatron mold was meant as a Glvatron homage. So a Galvatron homage mold in Galvatron deco is technically simply a straight up Galvatron toy right?

In theory yes.

But that is a good looking toy. I just wish for a generations styled one, official generations. Still, that is not a bad toy at all

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
I just realized him being a redeco of Megatron doesnt make him standalone. But the Megatron mold was meant as a Glvatron homage. So a Galvatron homage mold in Galvatron deco is technically simply a straight up Galvatron toy right?

In theory yes.

But that is a good looking toy. I just wish for a generations styled one, official generations. Still, that is not a bad toy at all

He's also the perfect scale for a Generations/Classics collection.