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Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

bodrock wrote:If stealth bomba Megz had been voyager or leader class, it would have been a LOT more impressive. Not the most intuitive to transform either, but a decent figure nonetheless.

I know nothing of Krok, but I do dig DAT FACE

I actually didn't know that Krok is officially a Monoformer in IDW. I just thought the G1 toy never had an alt mode, but IDW Krok had a spaceship mode or something.

And therein does lie a bit of a problem - of the two modern Kroks we've gotten, one has the correct alt-mode kibble (the stealth bomber parts match the spaceship-looking parts on Krok's body), but the wrong body shape and type. The other one has the wrong alt-mode kibble, but the correct body shape and type.
Oh, Transformers

I say to Hasbro:

Do we know if Topspin is based on any specific incarnation of him? Because with Perceptor having his AHM design, I'm starting to wonder if they're going for a full Last Stand of the Wreckers line-up which would explain the rather random inclusion of Perceptor and Topspin in a mostly 1986-onwards Deluxe line.

Kurona wrote:Do we know if Topspin is based on any specific incarnation of him? Because with Perceptor having his AHM design, I'm starting to wonder if they're going for a full Last Stand of the Wreckers line-up which would explain the rather random inclusion of Perceptor and Topspin in a mostly 1986-onwards Deluxe line.

I can also see then doing his other Jumpstarter partner Twin Twist. Looks very similar to him, and they could do a Brainstorm-esc retool of this mold for him.



And yes, technically you can say he's probably based off of his IDW design, but that design was also close to G1.

(Pictured on right)

So far out of this wave I can say Perceptor and Krok are definite wants for me. Brawn looks really good also. The others I don't really care for. FOr some reason deluxe is usually my defult size class, so I'm cool with that.

I just noticed that Topspin's guns incorporate elements of both his and Twin Twist's guns. It has the tapered barrel of Topspin's gun and the second smaller barrel(?) of Twin Twist's. Really seeming more likely that we'll get a Twin Twist out of this figure. Really just needs new arms with tank treads on them and the drills to pull it off.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I just noticed that Topspin's guns incorporate elements of both his and Twin Twist's guns. It has the tapered barrel of Topspin's gun and the second smaller barrel(?) of Twin Twist's. Really seeming more likely that we'll get a Twin Twist out of this figure. Really just needs new arms with tank treads on them and the drills to pull it off.

Emerje

It's already pretty much a given that Topspin can be retooled into Twin Twist since they share general body-type like Bumblebee and Cliffjumper. There is still room in a later wave or as an exclusive, as the amount of Deluxes rumored is enough for one more full wave:

Crosshairs
Misfire
Nightbeat (tentatively "Minerva")
Needlenose

I noticed that about Topspin's guns too, Emerje! Much appreciated odes to G1 errywhere lol

I figure Hasbro is going with any characters from the IDW comics, and other G1 faves for their bot selections - why else do we have so many options for Optimus & Megz? But I love that they've done plenty from the 86 movie, and are dipping into all the 'Masters.

Not mine:

LOL

Great stuff!!

i am so exited.

breathing rapidly,
sweat dripping from my upper lip,
stomach flopping,
internal gases becoming external environment,
heart fluttering,
mouth watering,

brain function
shutting
down.

wow!

Z3ROhour wrote:i am so exited.

breathing rapidly,
sweat dripping from my upper lip,
stomach flopping,
internal gases becoming external environment,
heart fluttering,
mouth watering,

brain function
shutting
down.

wow!

Too much info.

GuyIncognito wrote:They should make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!

what they should do is just do one continuing after the rebirth that we were supposed to have before it got cut short and do it in anime style

really looking forward to these waves espechally the apeface and snap dragon legends is it just me or is it disspoiting that arcee is just a head would have been nice to get a exo suit from hasbro

Sabrblade wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote: AFAIK the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome

Its not that awesome. If you never held it in your hands before, then just know that retroactively its not as great as how it may have seemed when it first came out. Toys have gotten better since and the quality isnt great, especially since they use very thin plastic. Dont know if the plastic is better on Club Krok.

Ah, that's a pity. I thought engineering wise it looked pretty good, and aesthetically I personally love it, but IIRC it DID come from a relative "dark age" for Transformers.

Hmm, maybe I will get TR Krok after all...

I've had no QC issues with any of the three versions of the mold I own: Hasbro Megatron, Dreadwing, and TFSS Krok. If anything, I'd say that my Dreadwing and Krok versions feel tighter and more solid than my Megatron does.

Its not a qc problem, it's just the plastic used. Its similar to generations rattrap and scoop, very light and thin. It doesn't feel smooth like the plastic used since CW. The toys end up feeling very flimsy. Plus the stealth bomber alt mode had partsforming due to a really weak attempt at a "gun" for robot mode. It looks like ass on Club Krok.

MORE In-Hand Images on Broadside via Cybertron Philippines Facebook (by Eric John Cruz)






Are we getting a TR Flattop?

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

I spoke to someone who has Topspin in hand, and the transformation features the same torso rotation trick that Triggerhappy has. I believe Topspin is a heavy retool like Highbrow was of Scourge.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

I spoke to someone who has Topspin in hand, and the transformation features the same torso rotation trick that Triggerhappy has. I believe Topspin is a heavy retool like Highbrow was of Scourge.

If they were, their Titan Masters would match in design. They don't. Same transformation trick does not equal retool. Besides, if you look closely, Topspin and Triggerhappy have opposite leg orientations in vehicle mode.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

I spoke to someone who has Topspin in hand, and the transformation features the same torso rotation trick that Triggerhappy has. I believe Topspin is a heavy retool like Highbrow was of Scourge.

If they were, their Titan Masters would match in design. They don't. Same transformation trick does not equal retool. Besides, if you look closely, Topspin and Triggerhappy have opposite leg orientations in vehicle mode.

The orientation is slightly different, like how it was between Highbrow and Scourge. I have a hard time believing that two figures feature the same transformation trick, but at their core don't use the same buck.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

I spoke to someone who has Topspin in hand, and the transformation features the same torso rotation trick that Triggerhappy has. I believe Topspin is a heavy retool like Highbrow was of Scourge.

If they were, their Titan Masters would match in design. They don't. Same transformation trick does not equal retool. Besides, if you look closely, Topspin and Triggerhappy have opposite leg orientations in vehicle mode.

The orientation is slightly different, like how it was between Highbrow and Scourge. I have a hard time believing that two figures feature the same transformation trick, but at their core don't use the same buck.

Mental Note: check images first next time. The legs face the same way in vehicle mode.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

I spoke to someone who has Topspin in hand, and the transformation features the same torso rotation trick that Triggerhappy has. I believe Topspin is a heavy retool like Highbrow was of Scourge.

If they were, their Titan Masters would match in design. They don't. Same transformation trick does not equal retool. Besides, if you look closely, Topspin and Triggerhappy have opposite leg orientations in vehicle mode.

The orientation is slightly different, like how it was between Highbrow and Scourge. I have a hard time believing that two figures feature the same transformation trick, but at their core don't use the same buck.

So by that logic most of the original combiner was mold are all remolds of each other since they all have similar transformations.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote: AFAIK the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome

Its not that awesome. If you never held it in your hands before, then just know that retroactively its not as great as how it may have seemed when it first came out. Toys have gotten better since and the quality isnt great, especially since they use very thin plastic. Dont know if the plastic is better on Club Krok.

Ah, that's a pity. I thought engineering wise it looked pretty good, and aesthetically I personally love it, but IIRC it DID come from a relative "dark age" for Transformers.

Hmm, maybe I will get TR Krok after all...

I've had no QC issues with any of the three versions of the mold I own: Hasbro Megatron, Dreadwing, and TFSS Krok. If anything, I'd say that my Dreadwing and Krok versions feel tighter and more solid than my Megatron does.

Its not a qc problem, it's just the plastic used. Its similar to generations rattrap and scoop, very light and thin. It doesn't feel smooth like the plastic used since CW. The toys end up feeling very flimsy.

My Dreadwing and Krok don't feel flimsy. They're both feel solidly-built.

william-james88 wrote:Plus the stealth bomber alt mode had partsforming due to a really weak attempt at a "gun" for robot mode. It looks like ass on Club Krok.

Then do the super-gun combination with Krok's gun and Gatoraider.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

I spoke to someone who has Topspin in hand, and the transformation features the same torso rotation trick that Triggerhappy has. I believe Topspin is a heavy retool like Highbrow was of Scourge.

If they were, their Titan Masters would match in design. They don't. Same transformation trick does not equal retool. Besides, if you look closely, Topspin and Triggerhappy have opposite leg orientations in vehicle mode.

The orientation is slightly different, like how it was between Highbrow and Scourge. I have a hard time believing that two figures feature the same transformation trick, but at their core don't use the same buck.

Mental Note: check images first next time. The legs face the same way in vehicle mode.

You might be right my friend. The legs are up but the knees face forward on Topspin where the toes are forward on Triggerhappy. I guess we won't know for sure until someone takes some comparison pics.

reviews for wave 4








brawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4D9XYB5SGw

Sky Shadow looks ok, but i'd prefer to wait to see the mold in Overlord colours

Broadside robot & carrier modes look good, but.....urgh....i'm really not a fan of that bulky back of the jet transformation

Sky Shadow's transformation is simpler than I expected. I wonder what modifications Overlord will have to use his jet cabin as a shield, if he does. SS looks really good, but I'll probably pass for space and money to just get the true user of the mold.

Broadside's jet mode just looks atrocious in that review. Stock photos made it look better. I can't look them up at the moment, but can anybody compare to see if he's mistransforming him or it really is that bad? His other modes look great.