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News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:26 pm

o.supreme wrote: Robert Loggia from ID4

I saw him more as R Lee Emery. Anyways, whats ID4?

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:26 pm

that's fine, not really into movie toys anyway. I'm really only interested in TR, and *maybe* some of the RiD combiners depending on how well they are engineered.

Also, someone on another site brought up an interesting point...wanted to bounce off you guys.. Has Hasbro ever had three Transformers toy lines all fully supported simultaneously (not counting Rescue Bots).

Someone speculated that TR was basically *done* with the exception of Trypticon, and all we would see at ToyFair would be TLK and RiD toys...I initially blew this off, but then I thought back to 2014, and the flood of AoE toys that hit, especially at TRU. They speculated that "Power of the Primes" would not begin until late fall of 2016 after hype for the new movie had died down. Sorry, trying not to panic, but does anyone have any thoughts on this?

I mean I wasn't collecting at the time, I knew about the 30th anniversary line but...did it end before AoE came out? or did it somehow weather the storm? Even still, back in 2014 there were only 2 lines -AoE & Generations 30th line (TF Prime was done IIRC)...Sorry just trying to make sense of all this, *hoping* TR still has 2 waves left to be revealed.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:34 pm

Here's a thought.

Even though we got a new Tankor toy just a few years ago, how would people fee, about a new Tankor made from TR Hardhead?

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:34 pm

william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote: Robert Loggia from ID4

I saw him more as R Lee Emery. Anyways, whats ID4?

I thought of R Lee first, but Kup's really not THAT harsh, at least in the versions I've seen/read. He at least has sympathy for his fellow Autobots. But anyway, ID4 is short for Independence Day (1996) the film with Will Smith, Bill Pullman etc...

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:34 pm

o.supreme wrote:I mean I wasn't collecting at the time, I knew about the 30th anniversary line but...did it end before AoE came out? or did it somehow weather the storm? Even still, back in 2014 there were only 2 lines -AoE & Generations 30th line (TF Prime was done IIRC)...Sorry just trying to make sense of all this, *hoping* TR still has 2 waves left to be revealed.

Not really especially since some AOE toys were part of the actual Thrilling 30 list. You can see Prime, Movie and gen stuff on there and even MPs (so 4 lines supported all at once):

San Diego Comic-Con 2013 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Metroplex
02 – San Diego Comic-Con 2013 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
03 – Platinum Edition Ultra Magnus
04 – Platinum Edition Grimlock vs. Bruticus
05 – Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong 2013 exclusive Metroplex
06 – Cybertron Con 2013 exclusive Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
07 – Cybertron Con 2013 exclusive Prime: Beast Hunters Beast Hunter Optimus Prime (Ultimate Class)
08 – Masterpiece Acid Storm
09 – Masterpiece Soundwave
10 – Platinum Edition Predaking
11 – Construct-Bots Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising Predaking
12 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Optimus Prime
13 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Supreme Starscream
14 – Age of Extinction First Edition Optimus Prime (Amazon exclusive in the US) / Age of Extinction Bumblebee vs. Decepticon Stinger with Strafe (Walmart exclusive in the US)
15 – Masterpiece Sunstorm
16 – Transformers (2014) Protectobots Evac Squad two-pack
17 – Transformers (2014) Protectobots Emergency Response three-pack
18 – Age of Extinction Voyager Class Slog "Generation 1" redeco (Amazon exclusive)
19 – San Diego Comic-Con 2014 / Hasbro Toy Shop exclusive Knights of Unicron set
20 – Age of Extinction Platinum Edition Breakout Battle
21 – Generations Leader Class Jetfire
22 – Age of Extinction Bumblebee Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
23 – Age of Extinction Optimus Prime Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
24 – Age of Extinction Grimlock Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
25 – Age of Extinction Slug Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
26 – Age of Extinction Strafe Evolution 2-Pack (Toys"R"Us exclusive)
27 – Masterpiece Prowl
28 – Age of Extinction Smash & Change Silver Knight Optimus Prime / Platinum Edition Silver Knight Optimus Prime (Target exclusives in the US)
29 – Age of Extinction Silver Knight Optimus Prime & Grimlock (Target exclusive in the US)
30 – Generations Deluxe Class Windblade ("Fan-Built Bot")

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:37 pm

o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote: Robert Loggia from ID4

I saw him more as R Lee Emery. Anyways, whats ID4?

I thought of R Lee first, but Kup's really not THAT harsh, at least in the versions I've seen/read. He at least has sympathy for his fellow Autobots. But anyway, ID4 is short for Independence Day (1996) the film with Will Smith, Bill Pullman etc...

Why is there a 4 in the shortened version?

News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:39 pm

william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote: Robert Loggia from ID4

I saw him more as R Lee Emery. Anyways, whats ID4?

I thought of R Lee first, but Kup's really not THAT harsh, at least in the versions I've seen/read. He at least has sympathy for his fellow Autobots. But anyway, ID4 is short for Independence Day (1996) the film with Will Smith, Bill Pullman etc...

Why is there a 4 in the shortened version?

Independence Day for us in America is July 4th. The movie starts on July 1st and ends on July 4th. so they call it ID4.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:42 pm

william-james88 wrote:Why is there a 4 in the shortened version?

cuz..merica...

I guess somebody thought it was a cool way to combine the terms "Independence Day" and "July 4th" --- and as a way to differentiate the title of the film, from the National Holiday. I dont't know... I didn't make it up...stop questioning me...jeez...(j/k)

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:44 pm

o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Why is there a 4 in the shortened version?

cuz..merica...

I guess somebody thought it was a cool way to combine the terms "Independence Day" and "July 4th" --- and as a way to differentiate the title of the film, from the National Holiday. I dont't know... I didn't make it up...stop questioning me...jeez...(j/k)

Ha!. As an outsider to 'merica, it was quite confusing there for a sec. And now with that becoming a franchise qith sequel bait, I wonder how they will one day abreviate the 4th film :lol:

But all jokes aside, I am really curious as to how they will abreviate the next Mission Impossible film, without outright saying that Ethan Hunt is 'Merica James Bond.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:46 pm

Here's a thought.

Even though we got a new Tankor toy just a few years ago, how would people fee, about a new Tankor made from TR Hardhead?

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:48 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Here's a thought.

Even though we got a new Tankor toy just a few years ago, how would people fee, about a new Tankor made from TR Hardhead?

Accidental double post?

In any case... it'd be pretty fitting. I think I'd prefer a Tankor Titan Master to go with Quake, mind.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:51 pm

Nah...just his ever so subtle way to say get back on topic methinks

. Anyway I think its a good fit, although TR seems to be focusing on original series for the moment. I known there's a lot of speculation about Tidal Wave from Broadsides, but until I actually see it, I'm sticking with the idea that TR will mostly be based on Original Series characters.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:55 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Here's a thought.

Even though we got a new Tankor toy just a few years ago, how would people fee, about a new Tankor made from TR Hardhead?

Nice Sabsie!

Thoughts. Topics. Straying. Back on track.

The shapes from Hard Head would all make sense to make up a Tankor, but honestly I wouldn't go for it. Especially with Quake on the horizon. Save Tankor for the next Beast Machines reboot.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:56 pm

o.supreme wrote:Nah...just his ever so subtle way to say get back on topic methinks . Anyway I think its a good fit, although TR seems to be focusing on original series for the moment. I known there's a lot of speculation about Tidal Wave from Broadsides, but until I actually see it, I'm sticking with the idea that TR will mostly be based on Original Series characters.

A non-G1 character retool in a non-anniversary Generations line isn't without precedent - we did get Armada Megatron in CW.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:06 pm

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote: Robert Loggia from ID4

I saw him more as R Lee Emery. Anyways, whats ID4?

I thought of R Lee first, but Kup's really not THAT harsh, at least in the versions I've seen/read. He at least has sympathy for his fellow Autobots. But anyway, ID4 is short for Independence Day (1996) the film with Will Smith, Bill Pullman etc...

Why is there a 4 in the shortened version?

Independence Day for us in America is July 4th. The movie starts on July 1st and ends on July 4th. so they call it ID4.

& also why the 2nd one was called Resurgence! coz ID42 wouldn't have made any sense

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:21 pm

william-james88 wrote:By the way guys, an insider posted that regarding the Nuremberg fair, Hasbro has security super tight and not only should we expect no images, but it requires extra access to even get into the hasbro booth even if one is already invited to the show. So we wont be getting any reactions or descriptions either. The only thing we know is that they revealed all the movie toys they have to show. But we knew we would see these at Toyfair anyways.

Well....maybe the odd thing....
http://tformers.com/toy-fair-2017-trans ... /news.html

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:22 pm

william-james88 wrote:By the way guys, an insider posted that regarding the Nuremberg fair, Hasbro has security super tight and not only should we expect no images, but it requires extra access to even get into the hasbro booth even if one is already invited to the show. So we wont be getting any reactions or descriptions either. The only thing we know is that they revealed all the movie toys they have to show. But we knew we would see these at Toyfair anyways.

Well....maybe the odd thing....
http://tformers.com/toy-fair-2017-trans ... /news.html

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:22 pm

The reason I bring it up...

A certain epic series gave us a little taste of what a Tankor from Hardhead might look like.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The reason I bring it up...

A certain epic series gave us a little taste of what a Tankor from Hardhead might look like.

Thanks, Sabr! Now if Hasbro doesn't make a Tankor out of this mold, I'll bawl on the floor. :lol:

Which comic is this from?

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:31 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:& also why the 2nd one was called Resurgence! coz ID42 wouldn't have made any sense

It's referred to as ID4R... no joke.

Also trying to stay on topic...If we did get a Tidal Wave from Broadsides, what color scheme would be preferred- the Purple or Green? Of course knowing Hasbro they'd make the green one, and TT would use the Purple color scheme.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:32 pm

Na, I dont need another hardhead retool. The only thing I would like maybe would be the original Mega toy done in show accurate colours. As you all know by now, I really dont think that Gen tankor is a decent replacement for the original toy.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:32 pm

Change his hands for his pincers and I'd be down with that. Love me some Tankor I do.

And... is that Crashbash's.... partner thing repourposed and half transformed to be a diagnostic drone? Works from the front, shame about any other angle.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:33 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:& also why the 2nd one was called Resurgence! coz ID42 wouldn't have made any sense

It's referred to as ID4R... no joke.

Also trying to stay on topic...If we did get a Tidal Wave from Broadsides, what color scheme would be preferred- the Purple or Green? Of course knowing Hasbro they'd make the green one, and TT would use the Purple color scheme.

Or, rather, Takara wouldn't bother with Tidal Wave at all.
Hasbro tends to go for toy-accuracy so I'd guess they'd go with green.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:34 pm

o.supreme wrote:Also trying to stay on topic...If we did get a Tidal Wave from Broadsides, what color scheme would be preferred- the Purple or Green? Of course knowing Hasbro they'd make the green one, and TT would use the Purple color scheme.

Has takara proper actually used the same mold more than once? if we ever get tidal wave, i think it will be just from hasbro.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:38 pm

SillySpringer wrote:Which comic is this from?

Not a comic. 'Tis from the Coda prose story of the awesome that is Beast Wars: Uprising.

Insurgent wrote:And... is that Crashbash's.... partner thing repourposed and half transformed to be a diagnostic drone?

Indubitably!

Along with... others.

Jetstorm made from Generations Armada Starscream (likely inspired by the unproduced BotCon 2016 toy proposal) and Thrustor (yep, not named "Thrust", per the rules of the BWU universe) made from Unite Warriors Groove.

And their boss, just using his normal look.

Oh, and the de-sparked bodies of Doomshot, Nucleon, and Krunix.

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