The Energon Pub

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The wave ecosystem must be completely different over there. Near me, wave 5 CW showed up for a few week, then dissapeared. Wave 6 just wouldn't die. (No skylynx sadly)

Terrsolpix wrote:Tail Enders are hard enough already, but hoping for a sale is just ludicrous!

It really depends. So far I have always waited for sales and the only one I missed out on was TR Clobber. I dont feel its a big loss there for everything else I was able to get on the cheap. And in any case, Twin Twist isnt a tail ender, he's part of the massive return to school restock that is a prelude to the Christmas period. I am waiting for a sale and I will make a post when I get it for less than $10 USD

Of course, I am not recomending one way or the other, just saying what I tend to do and how it has worked so far.

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:Tail Enders are hard enough already, but hoping for a sale is just ludicrous!

It really depends. So far I have always waited for sales and the only one I missed out on was TR Clobber. I dont feel its a big loss there for everything else I was able to get on the cheap. And in any case, Twin Twist isnt a tail ender, he's part of the massive return to school restock that is a prelude to the Christmas period. I am waiting for a sale and I will make a post when I get it for less than $10 USD

Of course, I am not recomending one way or the other, just saying what I tend to do and how it has worked so far.

Completely forgot about BTS restocks!
That'll make him easier than expected.

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:Tail Enders are hard enough already, but hoping for a sale is just ludicrous!

It really depends. So far I have always waited for sales and the only one I missed out on was TR Clobber. I dont feel its a big loss there for everything else I was able to get on the cheap. And in any case, Twin Twist isnt a tail ender, he's part of the massive return to school restock that is a prelude to the Christmas period. I am waiting for a sale and I will make a post when I get it for less than $10 USD

Of course, I am not recomending one way or the other, just saying what I tend to do and how it has worked so far.

Completely forgot about BTS restocks!
That'll make him easier than expected.

Yup, way easier

What helps is that this time, the line ends at the same time as the calendar year so stores will take a bunch for both the BTS and Christmas restock. The tail enders that have been hard to find were those that were scheduled to come out after christmas when stores are less likely to stock up on large quantities of one toy. So its a different matter here.

Just checked out a review of Kup - looks like an awesome mold; really hope he gets done as Crosshairs now.

Agreed Kurona, fingers crossed.

I still need to get Kup too.

Kup is really nice. His only flaw, debatable colors aside, is he's super losey goosey below and at the waist.

SureShot18 wrote:Kup is really nice. His only flaw, debatable colors aside, is he's super losey goosey below and at the waist.

Well, it wouldn't be that bad but the lea have 70% of the altmode in them. Mine aren't too terribly loose, but some tightening with tissues wouldn't hurt.

I still don't like his head.

Less and less.

To the point I ordered the tribute set, with the orion pax repaint, so I can get a version of the mold with a correct head. (and probably resell the Kup version).

SureShot18 wrote:Kup is really nice. His only flaw, debatable colors aside, is he's super losey goosey below and at the waist.

That's weird, my Kup is pretty tight all over.

(Wow that is a waaay different conversation if we were talking sports...)

ExciKaiser wrote:I still don't like his head.

Less and less.

To the point I ordered the tribute set, with the orion pax repaint, so I can get a version of the mold with a correct head. (and probably resell the Kup version).

Yeah, someone on the Hasbro team was a bit too much of an IDW fan (IMO TFTM should always take priority when it comes to designing toys of G1 Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Springer, Wreck Gar, Arcee, Wheelie, Galvatron, Scourge, and Cyclonus because they are TFTM+Season 3 characters first and foremost), but I think the regular head might be correctable with some work.

Terrsolpix wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:Kup is really nice. His only flaw, debatable colors aside, is he's super losey goosey below and at the waist.

Well, it wouldn't be that bad but the lea have 70% of the altmode in them. Mine aren't too terribly loose, but some tightening with tissues wouldn't hurt.

Speaking of loose, loose legs may not be universal but what is universal is the bad design of the cockpit interior. There's no notch for the tab on the back of Flintlock's legs, and there isn't even plastic lining the area where the TM should be seated so Flintlock or anyone else you put in the cockpit is free to just rattle around.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, someone on the Hasbro team was a bit too much of an IDW fan (IMO TFTM should always take priority when it comes to designing toys of G1 Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Springer, Wreck Gar, Arcee, Wheelie, Galvatron, Scourge, and Cyclonus because they are TFTM+Season 3 characters first and foremost), but I think the regular head might be correctable with some work.

Not at all. I'm not a geewun, I don't care if they use IDW or g1 design as basis.My issue here is the end result, with big lips and the strange armada-like grin/smirk/duckface.

IIRC Every Last Wave composed of new molds and some redecos.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My Kup's joint's are all pretty tight and stable. In fact, they remind me of that time on Parlax 7 when we got tangled up in that ancient hive of old arthritic Kohrtogs with nothin' but our wits and our bare hands. Their joints were tighter than a rusty servo, which made 'em even more angry and vicious.

Cobotron wrote:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My Kup's joint's are all pretty tight and stable. In fact, they remind me of that time on Parlax 7 when we got tangled up in that ancient hive of old arthritic Kohrtogs with nothin' but our wits and our bare hands. Their joints were tighter than a rusty servo, which made 'em even more angry and vicious.

This is the kind of stuff I'd feel bad for missing.

We might get this version of Optimus Titan Master (Optional Head), but the head resembles Star Convoy from the Battlestars series.

The image is blurry.

It's a little ironic that that Star Convoy head didn't end up coming with the Voyager Optimus after all since, while that mold is unambiguously sculpted in homage of G2 Laser Optimus, that figure's deco is based more on Star Convoy's deco than not.

Sabrblade wrote:It's a little ironic that that Star Convoy head didn't end up coming with the Voyager Optimus after all since, while that mold is unambiguously sculpted in homage of G2 Laser Optimus, that figure's deco is based more on Star Convoy's deco than not.

I honestly think the crest was too big to work as a universal Titan master. Maybe in that OP $5 TM leak from ages ago

Terrsolpix wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's a little ironic that that Star Convoy head didn't end up coming with the Voyager Optimus after all since, while that mold is unambiguously sculpted in homage of G2 Laser Optimus, that figure's deco is based more on Star Convoy's deco than not.

I honestly think the crest was too big to work as a universal Titan master. Maybe in that OP $5 TM leak from ages ago

About that... turns out it's a different Optimus. A rather beastly one

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's a little ironic that that Star Convoy head didn't end up coming with the Voyager Optimus after all since, while that mold is unambiguously sculpted in homage of G2 Laser Optimus, that figure's deco is based more on Star Convoy's deco than not.

I honestly think the crest was too big to work as a universal Titan master. Maybe in that OP $5 TM leak from ages ago

About that... turns out it's a different Optimus. A rather beastly one

Ohhhhhhh. In forgot the "leak" only said Optimus, not his ranking....... this'll be fun to see how the squish the big noggin of primal.

Terrsolpix wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's a little ironic that that Star Convoy head didn't end up coming with the Voyager Optimus after all since, while that mold is unambiguously sculpted in homage of G2 Laser Optimus, that figure's deco is based more on Star Convoy's deco than not.

I honestly think the crest was too big to work as a universal Titan master. Maybe in that OP $5 TM leak from ages ago

Well, TBH that Optional Optimus Titan Master head is good for the G2 Optimus, and then the Diac head is good for the PMOP Leader-class

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:A while back in this thread there was a discussion about a name for Tidal Wave's Titan Master. Some people suggested Ramjet, the name of his Mini-Con partner from Armada, and that works. I don't think I saw anyone suggest Flattop (the grey-and-purple Micromaster jet with a gray-and-purple aircraft carrier that turned into a jet for him), though, but I think that would also work. Altermately, you could treat Tidal Wave himself as an upsized Flattop (in the same vein as Universe Countdown, Dropshot, etc) - the color scheme sure fits.

I doubt that Tidal Wave's Titan Master has a distinct name at all. None of the Titan Masters that came with the Chaos on Velocitron set had their own names (except for Titan Master Rodimus Prime, of course). The bodies and heads were just treated as singular entities, more like the Japanese G1 concept of Headmasters with Transtector bodies. In other words, Quickswitch, "Laser Prime," and Nautica were the only names we got for those figures. It's not like the regular retail line where we have pairings with two distinct names, like Revolver and Six Shot, Diac and Optimus Prime, or Hyperfire with Blurr. I expect the Siege on Cybertron box set to be no different in this regard.

I'm not sure what I'd think if the Optimus Titanmaster-vehicle turned out to just be Apeface in Primal Prime colours.

I do really like the idea of the vehicle being Rollar and the head perhaps being one that complements the voyager or has a head that suits the Powermaster.

I don't really get people saying Kup's headsculpt is IDW-inspired -- it doesn't look more like IDW Kup than any other version of him. I kinda feel like people just apply 'IDW' to anything haphazardly without actually realising what they're saying; I keep seeing Ebay listings for TR Hot Rod with 'IDW' in the title...


The head is one of the problems I have with Kup -- that and the colour layout. That's why I'd prefer to wait until he's done into Crosshairs - if that IS happening - so I can get the mold in a better colour scheme

Idw has become a buzzword for any new classics, regardless if it is or not. Frankly, hasbro kup head looks more marvel comics than anything else.

It's like how every transformer on ebay is called rare. It's a marketing gimmick to make you think it's worh what they are asking.