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News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:44 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:Didn't we already get a Tank Megatron in the CW line?

Yeah, but the new will be inspired by IDW Megs. So I guess and hope he has a Cybertronian alt mode.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:46 am

Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Didn't we already get a Tank Megatron in the CW line?

Yeah, but the new will be inspired by IDW Megs. So I guess and hope he has a Cybertronian alt mode.

But the leader was also IDW inspired, partly, to the point of having the extra stickers to give him swirls and an autobot symbol. And plus, he cant be fully IDW, this toy has jet kibble on his legs.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:11 am

+ also! we kinda got a Megatron tank/jet flying type o thing in one of the Bayformers movies! & wasn't the toy of it Voyager Class?

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:11 am

william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Didn't we already get a Tank Megatron in the CW line?

Yeah, but the new will be inspired by IDW Megs. So I guess and hope he has a Cybertronian alt mode.

But the leader was also IDW inspired, partly, to the point of having the extra stickers to give him swirls and an autobot symbol. And plus, he cant be fully IDW, this toy has jet kibble on his legs.

Does Generations Blitzwing have that much jet kibble on his legs or anywhere? *rhetorical question*

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:28 am

Lunatic Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Didn't we already get a Tank Megatron in the CW line?

Yeah, but the new will be inspired by IDW Megs. So I guess and hope he has a Cybertronian alt mode.

But the leader was also IDW inspired, partly, to the point of having the extra stickers to give him swirls and an autobot symbol. And plus, he cant be fully IDW, this toy has jet kibble on his legs.

Does Generations Blitzwing have that much jet kibble on his legs or anywhere? *rhetorical question*

actually you could be onto a point there! what if this Megatron tank is just a Generations Blitzwing retool? coz we've already seen a Generations mold that's been retooled for the TR line!....Generations Metroplex/Fortress Maximus. so anything's possible

by **mtma** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:51 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Didn't we already get a Tank Megatron in the CW line?

Yeah, but the new will be inspired by IDW Megs. So I guess and hope he has a Cybertronian alt mode.

But the leader was also IDW inspired, partly, to the point of having the extra stickers to give him swirls and an autobot symbol. And plus, he cant be fully IDW, this toy has jet kibble on his legs.

Does Generations Blitzwing have that much jet kibble on his legs or anywhere? *rhetorical question*

actually you could be onto a point there! what if this Megatron tank is just a Generations Blitzwing retool? coz we've already seen a Generations mold that's been retooled for the TR line!....Generations Metroplex/Fortress Maximus. so anything's possible

I see it as more probable that this new megs will be a new Blitzwing eventually. See, the Generations guy wasn't so well received and is somewhat over-engineered.

It would make sense for Hasbro to release a new Blitzwing with a simpler and more efficient Transformation, who would retain the face-swap gimmick by coming with three different Titan Masters and having a flip-over helmet, like Blaster. Also it justifies releasing a new Megatron so soon after the Leader one.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:29 am

Well, I am slightly disappointed yet excited. Considering TR already has a Prime and a Galvatron and Megatron was in CW, I can see these guys being held off until the 3rd part of the trilogy. Making 2 headmaster primes in the same line that is rumored to last only 4 waves makes no sense to me.

Sixshot! Yes!! That news fills me with joy. My voice was heard! :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:34 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well, I am slightly disappointed yet excited. Considering TR already has a Prime and a Galvatron and Megatron was in CW, I can see these guys being held off until the 3rd part of the trilogy. Making 2 headmaster primes in the same line that is rumored to last only 4 waves makes no sense to me.

Sixshot! Yes!! That news fills me with joy. My voice was heard!

They did say that this Prime isnt part of Titans Return probably. So thats 1 prime per line.

Like Chainclaw1976 on Facebook · by **Chainclaw1976** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:45 am

Sixshot huh? That's awesome, I love Sixshot

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:45 am

mtma wrote:It would make sense for Hasbro to release a new Blitzwing with a simpler and more efficient Transformation, who would retain the face-swap gimmick by coming with three different Titan Masters and having a flip-over helmet, like Blaster.

Why the flip-over helmet? The Headmasters can have that helmet look by themselves like the others.

mtma wrote:Also it justifies releasing a new Megatron so soon after the Leader one.

And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:48 am

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well, I am slightly disappointed yet excited. Considering TR already has a Prime and a Galvatron and Megatron was in CW, I can see these guys being held off until the 3rd part of the trilogy. Making 2 headmaster primes in the same line that is rumored to last only 4 waves makes no sense to me.

Sixshot! Yes!! That news fills me with joy. My voice was heard!

They did say that this Prime isnt part of Titans Return probably. So thats 1 prime per line.

ah I had missed that. that is good news and I approve now.

Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him! :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:52 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:55 am

Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

No, bumblebee is rumoured to be coming in 2017, using the alt mode of the recent game.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:56 am

Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

Nah, they repaint other figures from Bumblebee, not the other way around.
Plus RiD is giving us our fill on him too :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:00 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

No, bumblebee is rumoured to be coming in 2017, using the alt mode of the recent game.

So TF Earth Wars?!

From the feet you can tell that then his alt mode would look like the one the Classics, Reveal the Shield etc. version has.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:02 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

No, bumblebee is rumoured to be coming in 2017, using the alt mode of the recent game.

So TF Earth Wars?!

I think he meant Bee's design from Devastation.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:10 pm

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well, I am slightly disappointed yet excited. Considering TR already has a Prime and a Galvatron and Megatron was in CW, I can see these guys being held off until the 3rd part of the trilogy. Making 2 headmaster primes in the same line that is rumored to last only 4 waves makes no sense to me.

Sixshot! Yes!! That news fills me with joy. My voice was heard!

They did say that this Prime isnt part of Titans Return probably. So thats 1 prime per line.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's no way this line is only 4 waves. 4waves means only 16 deluxe figures and so far we have 2 confirmed waves totaling 8 figures. That would only leave 8 more figures to release. We have rumors that all the titan master heads are getting bodies so there's 4 more so far and the rumors of other deluxe figures include hot rod, getaway, triggerhappy, pounce, wingspan, and double cross. So that right there exceedes the available number of spots and I didn't even get to the other original headmasters that are rumored to be coming as well. Also on the podcast today they said they now weren't sure what line Megatron and optimus will be under. I have a hard time believing that Hasbro would dedicate a portion of their final line in this trilogy to a gimmick that they're already doing.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:14 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

Nah, they repaint other figures from Bumblebee, not the other way around.
Plus RiD is giving us our fill on him too

What about a prepiant like Sentinal Prime is for Astrotrain?

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:14 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when do they (have to) justify to release a (popular) character in every line? Or even multiple times in the same line. Look at Bumblebee's several repaints in some lines.
And this time they even use different molds.

Let us not forget: Bumblebee avoided combiner wars. We made it a line without him!

And hasn't been listed or rumored or something else for TR yet.
But I could imagine a Wheely repaint/-mold.

No, bumblebee is rumoured to be coming in 2017, using the alt mode of the recent game.

So TF Earth Wars?!

From the feet you can tell that then his alt mode would look like the one the Classics, Reveal the Shield etc. version has.
I think he meant Bee's design from Devastation.

Doesn't seem to make much difference in alt mode.

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:19 pm

Transmissions Podcast wrote:3. Tank Megatron will be released in 2017. Unknown if it is in Titans Return or the next line. He is a Voyager. Has MTMTE influence, chest swirls, tank turret on the back. Comes with both Autobot and Decepticon stickers.

I've been planning to buy Combiner Wars G1 Megatron for a while, but I might hold off getting it until this Voyager is officially confirmed or revealed. Then again, I have Combiner Wars Starscream now, and Titans Return Soundwave will be bought on sight, so I don't think I'd be comfortable with a Megatron that's significantly shorter than Starscream or Soundwave.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:26 pm

Munkky wrote:
Transmissions Podcast wrote:3. Tank Megatron will be released in 2017. Unknown if it is in Titans Return or the next line. He is a Voyager. Has MTMTE influence, chest swirls, tank turret on the back. Comes with both Autobot and Decepticon stickers.

I've been planning to buy Combiner Wars G1 Megatron for a while, but I might hold off getting it until this Voyager is officially confirmed or revealed. Then again, I have Combiner Wars Starscream now, and Titans Return Soundwave will be bought on sight, so I don't think I'd be comfortable with a Megatron that's significantly shorter than Starscream or Soundwave.

Don't you have another one that fits to them?

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:44 pm

Transmissions Podcast wrote:1. Titans Return Voyager Alpha Trion's third mode is a "lion", and his Titan Master partner is named Sovereign. On the back of his box a Titan Master Brawn head listed as a co-sell, in the same way other co-sells were listed on the back on the first wave's boxes.
2. Laser Optimus Prime will be released in 2017. Unknown if it is in Titans Return or the next line. He is a Voyager, but no confirmaton that he is a triple changer. He has two heads, one based on Laser Optimus, and Star Convoy (one head may ship separately or be part of another figure).
3. Tank Megatron will be released in 2017. Unknown if it is in Titans Return or the next line. He is a Voyager. Has MTMTE influence, chest swirls, tank turret on the back. Comes with both Autobot and Decepticon stickers.
4. They are confirming the rumor of a Titans Return Deluxe Hot Rod heard from other sources, very G1 looking. Could share some Chromedome engineering/transformation, but it's a new mold.
Titans Return Deluxe Getaway, repaint of Chromedome, with IDW style head.
5. Titans Return Deluxe Triggerhappy. New mold.
6.Titans Return Deluxe Monsterbot Doublecross. (speculation, he could be remolded into other beasts)
7. NEW FIGURE! Titans Return Sixshot. Size class unknown, could be Voyager or Leader.

btw no mention of Tidal Wave or Broadside on that list? even after Chainclaw's revelations

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:18 pm

Munkky wrote:
Transmissions Podcast wrote:3. Tank Megatron will be released in 2017. Unknown if it is in Titans Return or the next line. He is a Voyager. Has MTMTE influence, chest swirls, tank turret on the back. Comes with both Autobot and Decepticon stickers.

I've been planning to buy Combiner Wars G1 Megatron for a while, but I might hold off getting it until this Voyager is officially confirmed or revealed. Then again, I have Combiner Wars Starscream now, and Titans Return Soundwave will be bought on sight, so I don't think I'd be comfortable with a Megatron that's significantly shorter than Starscream or Soundwave.

I would get CW Megatron, especially if you plan on having a leader class scale. He was very popular, get him while you can because I have a bad feeling that when we do get this reveal, CW Megatron will be hard to find. The worst possible time to buy a transformer is the moment he is no longer available at retail because the only ones selling him left become the scalpers and there isnt a decent supply on the secondary market from people tired fo the toy yet.

Stuartmaximus wrote:btw no mention of Tidal Wave or Broadside on that list? even after Chainclaw's revelations

These are two different sources, they wouldnt have the same info, or at the same time. There was no mention of Gnaw either or kickback. There was not mention of godbomber either. I feel they are only saying toys they actualy see pictures of.

Also, the more I think of what was shown for "tidal wave", I feel it is more a broadside figure we will get. The whole point of that slide was a mock up of Broadside using the tidal wave toy. Sure, it means Hasbro knows they share a similar body and compatibility, but the idea behind that listing is that we are getting a Braodside and not necessarily a tidal wave.

steals_your_goats wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's no way this line is only 4 waves. 4waves means only 16 deluxe figures and so far we have 2 confirmed waves totaling 8 figures.

And Hasbro said that the third part will be bringing estblished gimicks together. So it could be that the third part also has headmasters.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:32 pm

Don't forget: By this time last year we knew all the figures coming out for the whole year and by June we already knew of Bruticus, so there are a lot of very early reveals :MAXIMAL:

Like Chainclaw1976 on Facebook · by **Chainclaw1976** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:39 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Didn't we already get a Tank Megatron in the CW line?

Yeah, but the new will be inspired by IDW Megs. So I guess and hope he has a Cybertronian alt mode.

But the leader was also IDW inspired, partly, to the point of having the extra stickers to give him swirls and an autobot symbol. And plus, he cant be fully IDW, this toy has jet kibble on his legs.

Yup. Black fins on the backs of the ankle area. As small as the fins on G1 Starscream's ankle/foot area.

And he had wings that came out of the back of his upper arms. I want to say they were grey, but I can't remember for sure.