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News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:14 pm

Autobot N wrote:Hey man, quit dissin' that Jazz! That's one of my favorites right there.

No joke.

Probably because it was my first actual Transformer, so I harbor nostalgia towards it.

I'm guessing you don't care too much then for how he compares to his game model then :-P

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:15 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:That pic doesn't actually show anything if you were going for a size comparison;

I didnt want to be a broken record and post this pic again.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:15 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:Hey man, quit dissin' that Jazz! That's one of my favorites right there.

No joke.

Probably because it was my first actual Transformer, so I harbor nostalgia towards it.

I'm guessing you don't care too much then for how he compares to his game model then

Nope! In fact, I didn't even get to play the game until January last year!

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Autobot N wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:Hey man, quit dissin' that Jazz! That's one of my favorites right there.

No joke.

Probably because it was my first actual Transformer, so I harbor nostalgia towards it.

I'm guessing you don't care too much then for how he compares to his game model then

Nope! In fact, I didn't even get to play the game until January last year!

Oh, well, that explains it :lol:

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:41 pm

Autobot N wrote:Hey man, quit dissin' that Jazz! That's one of my favorites right there.

No joke.

Probably because it was my first actual Transformer, so I harbor nostalgia towards it.

What do you mean by "actual" Transformer and do you mean the character or exactly this figure?

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:52 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:as for ramps(the one's on his arms) dunno if they'll be removable or not yet?

The small red ones? those are the ones you connect to the other base mode figures, they look like they just clip onto his arm, so I guess you're good to go if you wanna yank 'em off

these ones!

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News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:56 pm

Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. :lol:

This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:56 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:as for ramps(the one's on his arms) dunno if they'll be removable or not yet?

The small red ones? those are the ones you connect to the other base mode figures, they look like they just clip onto his arm, so I guess you're good to go if you wanna yank 'em off

these ones!
Fortress-Maximus-City-1.jpg

Oh, you meant the landing strips, ramp implies slope... Those big ones don't look like they'll be removable, they're probably molded onto the back of his shoulders, or they're on the screw that holds the shoulders together. If it's the second, you may be able to dis-assemble his shoulders and remove them, but, I doubt it.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:04 pm

SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow :-?

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:08 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven. ;)^

I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:09 pm

well i know with most of the other versions of Fort Max(G1, Kabaya, KO & Infinitor) that they are removable

as for this joint....i'm just not sure if it's locked off or can still move? but dunno what purpose it would serve by having the whole arm swing forward :-?

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News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:19 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:What do you mean by "actual" Transformer and do you mean the character or exactly this figure?

Technically, my first was an Animated activators Bumblebee. But I don't count that.
And I do mean this particular figure.

Also, something I noticed with Scourge: If you hate the way that the TM arms and legs hang off of the head, then just unscrew the TM, remove the arms and legs, and screw it back together.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:24 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.

No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.

Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:26 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.
No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.
Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

At least Galvatron isn't mostly pink. :-P

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:32 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:well i know with most of the other versions of Fort Max(G1, Kabaya, KO & Infinitor) that they are removable

as for this joint....i'm just not sure if it's locked off or can still move? but dunno what purpose it would serve by having the whole arm swing forward
Fortress-Maximus-Robot-928x483-1.jpg

Because this is Metroplex remolded, it was probably too costly to remold/remove this aspect of the figure, I don't think it has been stated whether or not Fort Max will be able to move the shoulder like Metroplex...

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:35 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.
No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.
Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

At least Galvatron isn't mostly pink.

Yeah, that commercial was really shocking :SICK:

But with Galvatron it's the other way round. First he was a nearly total buy to me and now don't think I'll get him. His alt modes don't look really good and the robot mode is ok. The frosted plastic of his cannon is a real bummer for me. Why did they change that?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:14 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:well i know with most of the other versions of Fort Max(G1, Kabaya, KO & Infinitor) that they are removable

as for this joint....i'm just not sure if it's locked off or can still move? but dunno what purpose it would serve by having the whole arm swing forward
Fortress-Maximus-Robot-928x483-1.jpg

Because this is Metroplex remolded, it was probably too costly to remold/remove this aspect of the figure, I don't think it has been stated whether or not Fort Max will be able to move the shoulder like Metroplex...

If it's too costly to remold it, why would they avoid remolding it by remolding it :HEADHURTS:

I maintain that he will be able to (kinda) pull of both of metro's modes too, as well as several 'fan modes' ;)^

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:22 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.
No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.
Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

At least Galvatron isn't mostly pink.

Yeah, that commercial was really shocking
But with Galvatron it's the other way round. First he was a nearly total buy to me and now don't think I'll get him. His alt modes don't look really good and the robot mode is ok. The frosted plastic of his cannon is a real bummer for me. Why did they change that?

I personally like it better with the frosted plastic. It is less see through and looks less toy-like. The face is what bums me. Why isn't it painted silver like at the event he was showcased at? That is something that will simply not do. I'll have to paint it myself.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:33 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.
No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.
Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

At least Galvatron isn't mostly pink.

Yeah, that commercial was really shocking
But with Galvatron it's the other way round. First he was a nearly total buy to me and now don't think I'll get him. His alt modes don't look really good and the robot mode is ok. The frosted plastic of his cannon is a real bummer for me. Why did they change that?

I personally like it better with the frosted plastic. It is less see through and looks less toy-like. The face is what bums me. Why isn't it painted silver like at the event he was showcased at? That is something that will simply not do. I'll have to paint it myself.

Because, like with all the other early reveals, they were hand-painted prototypes, the deco's are never final, or necessarily even accurate >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:36 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.
No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.
Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

At least Galvatron isn't mostly pink.

Yeah, that commercial was really shocking
But with Galvatron it's the other way round. First he was a nearly total buy to me and now don't think I'll get him. His alt modes don't look really good and the robot mode is ok. The frosted plastic of his cannon is a real bummer for me. Why did they change that?

I personally like it better with the frosted plastic. It is less see through and looks less toy-like. The face is what bums me. Why isn't it painted silver like at the event he was showcased at? That is something that will simply not do. I'll have to paint it myself.

Because, like with all the other early reveals, they were hand-painted prototypes, the deco's are never final, or necessarily even accurate

I know, but because both Cyclonus and Scourge have silver painted faces, I was hoping Galvatron would too.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:36 pm

I wish you could swivel Fort Max's arms around the whole way so in battle station mode, the structure is entirely in the back and he has his cannons with flight decks surrounding it :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:39 pm

william-james88 wrote:Well aso with the exception of the microchange line. Which means the first 2 years of Transformers are all redecos of previous toys. Even Omega Supreme is a redeco of a pre-existing toy. So is Shockwave. The seekers are the worse. Here is the original toy:

So they took that toy and turned him into Starscream and then they redeco'd that into more seekers:

And then they made 3 new seekers that had new molds for the wings, the coneheads. So the coneheads are 3 retools or redecos of an unoriginal toy. This is less original than anything that Hasbro ever did since then. If you have any evidence that would prove that any period in Transformers history is less original than this G1 example I just presented, then please present it.
The truth is that Hasbro has ALWAYS been about releasing the most toys possible for the least amount of cost. The initial G2 line is only redecos of G1 for crying out loud, why are we still having this discussion.
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I think, at least for me, the problem with repaint/remolds is when it's not supported in accompanying media. The seekers and datsun bros have always been repaint in the show and comics, so the toys don't bother me. If the repaint is if some secondary no-name character, it doesn't bother me. When the likes of Prowl, Ironhide, and even Prime himself are repaint, that is when I get cranky. Just my two cents on the debacle.

Oh, and Willy? Because of how often you praised it, you should know I got Prime Wheeljack off of eBay. If I don't like it, I'm blaming you. :-D

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:40 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Man Scourge looks awesome. I am so excited about getting 3 of him. This'll probably be the first time I ever have gotten 3 of the same guy at the same time.

When I first saw him he was a total pass. But with the new pics he grows on me somehow

When you're someone like me who wants to collect all of the season 3 characters you can, this is an answer from heaven.
No, I'm the type of guy who just wants the stuff which seems cool to me. I don't really care about completing specific lines.

SillySpringer wrote:I really dislike the plain gray face on Galvatron though. I think it was silver at that event he was announced at. I might have to do some paint work. They did so beautifully with Cyclonus' paint job, but then slacked off with Galvatron. So sad indeed.
Yeah, they changed a lot of paint apps from the show floor versions to the retail versions.

At least Galvatron isn't mostly pink.

Yeah, that commercial was really shocking
But with Galvatron it's the other way round. First he was a nearly total buy to me and now don't think I'll get him. His alt modes don't look really good and the robot mode is ok. The frosted plastic of his cannon is a real bummer for me. Why did they change that?

I personally like it better with the frosted plastic. It is less see through and looks less toy-like. The face is what bums me. Why isn't it painted silver like at the event he was showcased at? That is something that will simply not do. I'll have to paint it myself.

Because, like with all the other early reveals, they were hand-painted prototypes, the deco's are never final, or necessarily even accurate

I know, but because both Cyclonus and Scourge have silver painted faces, I was hoping Galvatron would too.

They have painted faces because they have too, they are molded out of a different plastic color that wouldn't work for their face. Since Galvy has a helmet, his face isn't then made out of purple plastic, therefore there isn't a 'need' for his face to be painted, just another way to save money >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:41 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I wish you could swivel Fort Max's arms around the whole way so in battle station mode, the structure is entirely in the back and he has his cannons with flight decks surrounding it

It's possible that there are secret transformation steps left out of the official transformation. Maybe we can fan mode it. There's an odd hinge on his torso like some people pointed out. That might be some sort of transformation part that they abandoned.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:43 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I wish you could swivel Fort Max's arms around the whole way so in battle station mode, the structure is entirely in the back and he has his cannons with flight decks surrounding it

It's possible that there are secret transformation steps left out of the official transformation. Maybe we can fan mode it. There's an odd hinge on his torso like some people pointed out. That might be some sort of transformation part that they abandoned.

The big red and black one? That's a leftover from metroplex, it's what he used to turn his arm into a tower in city mode