william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's digressing a bit, but ... I never mind a small debate.
That Hasbro quote is very disingenuous. I mean they say they're making "new products without being chained to old stories" and then turn around and give us Platinum sets based off the animated movie and VERY G1 true takes on several old characters.
Now don't get me wrong. I'm here because I love the old 80's cartoon. So I am totally down for 10 new takes on 80s Hot Rod. But just making Hot rod a Headmaster isn't making him "not G1." That quote seems to relate more to RID than Combiner or titan Wars.
I dont mind either, I am having good fun with you guys
That last bit is interesting. I do see what you mean since he is still G1 flavoured using a g1 gimmick so he's not necessarily an evolution in the aesthetic or character but more of a fun switcheroo. Still, he isn't G1 hot rod either right? So he's not G1 hot rod, but at the same time he isnt that different from G1 either, is that what you mean? Like it should be a go big or go home type thing?
Personally I think we all know whats really going on here. Hasbro is just trying to reassure fans with these quotes that dont really hold up or mean anything aside from letting you know that they do care (or else they simply wouldnt be there to answer). They just want to let you know that there is a reason for all this that is more than simply them capitalizing on a line wide gimmick and pairing it with known names and designs that fans and parents might recognize. But there isnt.
Do I still sound positive
Still pretty positive, lol.
Well ... lemme put it like this.
There's proper G1 which goes up to and includes G2 (as G2 is just an extension of G1). So, the proper era of G1 has ended, this is true.
But G1 itself was revived with the original reissue line. We had new characters like Sunstorm and Road Rage. I guess, if you wanted to be technical, you could call it Neo G1 and draw a hard line here. BUT it's all still connected to the G1 base. So Alpha Broavo, Headmaster Hot Rod, Combiner Wars Optimus Prime - all these are things I consider to be Neo G1 because they all spring from G1. As long as Hasbro and Takara continue to use G1 as a VERY strong base in their story it's a baldface lie for them to say they aren't following old stories.
What is NOT G1? Beast Wars (although there's overlap). The Bayverse. Prime / RID. Takes that deviate pretty strongly from the original cartoons, ESPECIALLY visually. But even here we can see there's some G1, so it's something of a spectrum. For instance - Armada Unicron and Superlink Galvatron G found a place in my collection before being replaced by better toys. Armada Blurr not no much.
IDW is still G1 (or Neo G1 is we want to be technical) because it grows from G1. It's like how Victory is G1. New ideas and new characters, but still springing forth from G1.
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