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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:00 pm

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ScottyP wrote:NLove Milne's Seeker design here. Has some Hearts of Steel vibes maybe?

I was thinking more Cybertron-esque, but that was just based on the shoulders and lower legs more than anything

That was brought up on our facebook page. Apparently it's partly based on the Cyberyron design but I think it's just a vew aspects used as inspiration rather than an interpretation of that design.
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Transformers vs. The Terminator #3 Preview with 1980's Arcee and Velocity Design Art

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:43 pm

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Thanks to Apple Book preview, we have a look at the upcoming Transformers vs. The Terminator #3 comic book from IDW! #3 picks up following issue #2, with the conscious Autobots working on the damaged and fallen Autobots following the Ark shootout from issue 2. We get a little different crew than we are used to though. Prime, Bumblebee, Wheeljack, and Ratchet are the usual suspects for a G1 Ark story, but we get 2 outliers in the forms of Arcee, complete with a 1980's alternate mode, and IDW2005 original character Velocity also complete with a 1980's alt mode, which is her first ever Earth alt mode.

In addition to the preview, we get some design art for Arcee and Velocity, courtesy of Alex Milne on his Twitter page. Both designs are marvelous, giving us a great looking pair of ladies for the comic to run with. We also get the alt mode their robot modes were based on in Milne's description, which includes a 1983 Ford Mustang for Arcee and a 1977 Firebird for Velocity.

Check it out below and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:44 pm

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Those designs are frikkin delicious, I want both!
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Grahf_ » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:05 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Those designs are frikkin delicious, I want both!

I concur.

Arcee looks like she could be a Skids Retool. Burnout would then also be made using Skids' car but Arcee's body.

Velocity looks like she could be a reshell and retool of Tracks to get that upper body to work. Working kinda like AoE and TLK Drift with them being reshelled in such a way that it inverted what parts of the vehicle the robot parts came from. Then Roadrage could also be done.

Oddly enough, Tracks and Skids are due for new toys as they were both skipped during CW/PotP and in WFC so far with Tracks being long overdue for a new figure.

All wishful thinking though.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:15 pm

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Oh man these designs are great! How about that kinda Arcee figure for Earthrise? A first Velocity toy would be great too.

So glad Milne is doing the linework for this series, I hope he never stops doing Transformers.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:58 pm

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arcee looks like an 84-86 Mustang GT ;)
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:13 am

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Ultra Markus wrote:arcee looks like an 84-86 Mustang GT ;)
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She was called out as a 1983 Ford Mustang, so not too far off
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby angtre » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:18 am

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My only complaint? Arcee is a touch too big. Nothing wrong with bulkier female characters, mind - I absolutely loved the likes of Strika (Beast Machines) and Strongarm (RiD II) - simply I'm struggling to recognize the iconic character in this design.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Tuned Agent » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:52 pm

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Both of these designs look great! My only nitpick is that I wish Velocity still had her massive head crest-thing that her original design had, it was really unique.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Short Circuit » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:16 pm

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This is amazing, we need more muscle car fembots. A foxbody totally fits arcee, ever so slightly diminutive but filled with power. And as a trans am fan velocity looks great too! :-D

Can we please get these as toys Hasbro? You totally could remould arcee into a taurus for a robocop crossover and velocity as a smokey and the bandit crossover. Nobody will mind at all! :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Big Grim » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:53 pm

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I’m enjoying the comic but the Terminator seems to be having FAR too easy a time of it.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby partholon » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:10 am

well that ended shyte.

seems transformes can be just shot now by a bog standard pistol. in a way this series is like a microcosm of whats wrong with IDW.

they HAVE the franchises to do something awesome. they have the talent in the form of milne.

they just choose not to do so.

the only redeeming aspect of this is milnes astounding designs and artwork. some truly lovely stuff.
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Review for Transformers vs. The Terminator 4

Postby william-james88 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:40 pm

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A Review of Transformers vs Terminator #4

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Last week marked the final installment of the Transformers vs Terminator comic and I have to say, this issue felt more bombastic than any Michael Bay movie. That's because this is done in fifteen minutes and it's just non stop action. You've got another classic Optimus vs Megatron Battle, you have Megatron vs Starscream, and the Terminator killing left right and centre with a bombastic finish. Plus you have quite a bit of Ravage thrown in, which is always nice to see from Alex Milne.

ImageWhat happens in the panel after this is pure nonsense


However, throughout the cacophony there is also some plot and I will be honest, I didn't get it. The writing was not the strong suit of this series, far from it. Since this is a Terminator story, there is a time travel semi paradox story to tell, kinda, and that part totally escaped me. Meaning that the end made absolutely no sense to me. And aside from a tease to what may come later, a good part of this comic really goes out of its way to say that this part is done with an ending that almost reminds me of Beast Machine's ending with a new tomorrow being born from the wreckage. Except if you don't really get how we got to the this ending, then you're just left bewildered.

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Hey Bee, buddy, the Terminator just said he hasn't killed all Cybertronians yet, why in the world would you agree to help him finish the mission? You want the suicide hotline number?


Also, Optimus rapidly gets over the death of his fallen comrades, who he has spent eons battling with. It felt really insincere, like the writer had to address it and just dedicated a quick line of dialogue. I don't know what it is with Transformers comics in general, they are very tedious for a long bit and then wrap everything up in a larger than life sort of way that never leaves me satisfied, with writing that jumps around all over the place, never making the comic feel cohesive. It reminded me a lot of the opening arc of the Optimus Prime, or All Hail Megatron or even Stormbringer in structure. I know that last one has it's fans and so may this Terminator crossover but I am not one of them.

Back to the art, it's always a treat to see Alex Milne draw Transformers. He draws as many transformations as he could, almost like he is making up for the times he didn't on the Roberts run to the point where it feels unnecessary. For instance you'll have Bumblebee in robot mode in one panel and then soon after you see him transform from car to robot in the next. I do really wish the shadows were left to the colorist, however, rather than adding a grid pattern, it muddies the art.

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Weren't you in robot mode on the previous page?



In the end, this was a well drawn short series that shows that the franchises can work together, I just wish it was better written overall. If you ae going to write a yarn dealing with time travel, you have to make it simple and clear and I didn't get this here. In the end, my score for this issue is the same as the first issue and the series overall.


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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Big Grim » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:59 am

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It was entertaining enough but yeah. Came out f it unsatisfied. The ending was a total rush job. Art was gorgeous but it's Milne, so that's kinda to be expected. Just a shame that there were so many stupid parts of the story.

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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Burn » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:39 am

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Incredibly disappointing with the ending.

DC's Hill House imprint series was notorious for rushed endings, and you'd swear the writers took cues from those books on how to wrap up a series.

Sure, they leave it open for a sequel series, but that's still no excuse to how it ended.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:30 pm

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If only this series had gotten one more issue like the Star Trek crossover had, I feel like a lot of the Terminator-y time travel bits could be fleshed out a little more.

That aside, I really loved this series, it’s definitely my favorite of the crossovers so far. The action, the art, the high stakes 80’s action movie vibes, it had it all.
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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby Big Grim » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:07 am

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It really annoyed me that "seasoned warrior" Arcee, after threatening the Terminator, didn't then notice him placing mines around the Ark and seeding the area while stood with him and indeed, him chucking them out of her window as they were driving about. And where did he store them?!? Made zero bloody sense.

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Re: Transformers vs. The Terminator Crossover Comic Launching in 2020

Postby ScottyP » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:21 am

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Took me way too long to get around to reading this review, but I have to say this is spot on:

I don't know what it is with Transformers comics in general, they are very tedious for a long bit and then wrap everything up in a larger than life sort of way that never leaves me satisfied, with writing that jumps around all over the place, never making the comic feel cohesive. It reminded me a lot of the opening arc of the Optimus Prime, or All Hail Megatron or even Stormbringer in structure.


I think the issue is writing to three-act structure, or something close to it, which leaves almost no time for things to wrap up after the climax. Alternately, the writers don't care about the ending as much as they cared about the way there, which is fine for a crossover book but also one of the reasons they have a tough time being more than diversionary exercises in brand awareness. I think the structure of the My Little Pony crossover might be my preferred thing for this kind of book - humorous short vignettes that don't get too worried about convoluted overarching plots which could never get enough space to be resolved in a satisfying way.
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