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Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:17 pm

Bases! Bases! Scorponok! Bases! Bases! Scorponok!

This will be an awesome series!

News Credits: 462 · Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:19 pm

I didn't notice until now that Optimus has that stupid silver stripe on each of his arms that both MP-1/MP-4 and MP-10 had but which he never had in either the G1 cartoon or comics. His truck mode didn't even have that silver stripe most of the time in the cartoon, so I'd rather they got rid of it altogether if it meant each of arms wouldn't have to have that stupid stripe.

News Credits: 5 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:46 am

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WHAT ARE THOSE!!

First thing I thought of when I saw those trailer wheels :lol:

Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:40 am

Sabrblade wrote:I didn't notice until now that Optimus has that stupid silver stripe on each of his arms that both MP-1/MP-4 and MP-10 had but which he never had in either the G1 cartoon or comics. His truck mode didn't even have that silver stripe most of the time in the cartoon, so I'd rather they got rid of it altogether if it meant each of arms wouldn't have to have that stupid stripe.

from what is pictured i noticed theres no roller, what a bummer

News Credits: 54 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:53 am

That Cliffjumper is bigger then the legend sized versions of the minibots we have been getting for the last few years right?

If so...god damn it, it won't feel right having a Cliffjumper that is bigger then Bee, Brawn and the other minibots in the collection.

Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

Like is part 3 going to be in the future or something? (The movie and season 3 era)

Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:10 am

Deadput wrote:That Cliffjumper is bigger then the legend sized versions of the minibots we have been getting for the last few years right?

If so...god damn it, it won't feel right having a Cliffjumper that is bigger then Bee, Brawn and the other minibots in the collection.

Yeah, that's what I'm scared of. We just got basically near perfect versions of the majority of the Minibots the last few years, and now I'm scared they're gonna start all over again.

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

Like is part 3 going to be in the future or something? (The movie and season 3 era)

That's what everyone's guessing, yeah, especially since apparently John Warden said the episodes that inspired this trilogy are More Than Meets The Eye part 1, Fire in the Sky, Call of the Primitives, and The Rebirth iirc.

News Credits: 1350 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:04 am

Be interesting to see what call of the primitives inspired :-?

Unless they're making a Primacon figure...

News Credits: 462 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:18 am

Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.

In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

News Credits: 10 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:26 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Cybertron and....the Universe. (Evil cackle)

News Credits: 372 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:31 am

sol magnus wrote:Is Prime really going to have silver hands, or is this just for pre-production...

Not just the hands but the inner lower legs and elbow joints as well. Honestly the final deco makes an otherwise good-looking figure look like a KO.

And I agree with @Sabrblade about the stripes. Instead of of that paint app I'd finish the yellow paint on his pelvis, and blue on crotch.
I'm not too fond of the grey app on the air intake either. But that's just a small annoyance.

⠀

News Credits: 4877 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:43 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.

News Credits: 462 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:45 am

Cyberpath wrote:And I agree with @Sabrblade about the stripes. Instead of of that paint app I'd finish the yellow paint on his pelvis, and blue on crotch.
I'm not too fond of the grey app on the air intake either. But that's just a small annoyance.

Yeah, it bothered me on the first two MP Convoys and it still bothers me.

After all these years, I'm still amazed that no one has ever tried making a G1 Optimus toy that transforms like the CG Optimus seen in the Kid Rhino G1 Season 2 DVD menus. IIRC, that one transformed from a show-accurate robot mode to a convincingly-realistic truck mode without any cheating or over-complexity.

News Credits: 462 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:47 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.

Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

News Credits: 10 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:37 am

Cyberpath wrote:
sol magnus wrote:Is Prime really going to have silver hands, or is this just for pre-production...

Not just the hands but the inner lower legs and elbow joints as well. Honestly the final deco makes an otherwise good-looking figure look like a KO.

And I agree with @Sabrblade about the stripes. Instead of of that paint app I'd finish the yellow paint on his pelvis, and blue on crotch.
I'm not too fond of the grey app on the air intake either. But that's just a small annoyance.

⠀

Much as I hate to invoke 3p here, but hopefully somebody will do something with those parts. My son WILL ask me why Prime's hands are not blue (to say nothing of my own problem with it). He'll be seven by the time this hits.

News Credits: 372 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:44 am

Stargrave wrote:Hoist can tow characters or attach to your mini cities and his robot mode can become a bridge like he did in G1.

His robot mode? Like this?

That's funny, but I guess I like the fact that the people calling the shots are into the same source material as I am. :))

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, it bothered me on the first two MP Convoys and it still bothers me.

After all these years, I'm still amazed that no one has ever tried making a G1 Optimus toy that transforms like the CG Optimus seen in the Kid Rhino G1 Season 2 DVD menus. IIRC, that one transformed from a show-accurate robot mode to a convincingly-realistic truck mode without any cheating or over-complexity.

I stayed clear of Rhino because they had remastered the wrong films (the Madman Entertainment set is perfect) so unfortunately this small pic is all I found...

Pre-orders are also up on Amazon, with release date of March 31, 2020. I think I'm gonna hold off on EarthRise Prime though till a better version comes out. They do that sometimes.

Not sure about Starscream either, I liked Henkei at the time but was hoping for something different. Don't like the chunky piece over his canopy or the nosecone sticking out from his back.

News Credits: 4877 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:13 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.
Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

That came later. At the start of the show they dont seem to be battling for control of cybertron.

News Credits: 462 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:19 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.
Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

That came later. At the start of the show they dont seem to be battling for control of cybertron.

That's because there was no war at the beginning, only minor skirmishes. The Decepticons had been MIA for three years prior to the first episode, and Optimus states in Episode 6 that the war had ended a long time ago. As the series progressed, later events reignited Megatron's desire to control Cybertron as new means to both revitalize it and dominate it came into being.

News Credits: 4877 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:39 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

Even in Prime? Cybertron was a lost cause in that show.
Do you not remember the whole ordeal with the Omega Lock? Main characters even killed each other over that.

That came later. At the start of the show they dont seem to be battling for control of cybertron.
That's because there was no war at the beginning, only minor skirmishes. The Decepticons had been MIA for three years prior to the first episode, and Optimus states in Episode 6 that the war had ended a long time ago. As the series progressed, later events reignited Megatron's desire to control Cybertron as new means to both revitalize it and dominate it came into being.

Thats a long way to write "you're right William".

News Credits: 340 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:29 pm

This much fan service and a Prime trailer with no Roller? I bet that means we’ll get a cool Masterversion of him or ‘hopehopebeyondhope’ the IDW version :-D

News Credits: 41 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:54 pm

Stargrave wrote:This much fan service and a Prime trailer with no Roller? I bet that means we’ll get a cool Masterversion of him or ‘hopehopebeyondhope’ the IDW version

I was just thinking the same thing! Maybe they will give us a Micromaster Roller. He would be a cool candidate for a Weaponizer too. Makes a lot of sense for him to become weapons and armor for the big boss man.

News Credits: 2 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:57 pm

...these will be available on Amazon too? I'm sure Amazon send it to Italy with a good price and no prob with customs fees , not sure about the other sites...

News Credits: 54 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:02 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:Also can the trilogy really be considered a War for Cybertron if only part 1 takes place on Earth? Like not a knock on the products themselves but it seems weird to me.
In all of the brand's history, the war has always been for the control of Cybertron no matter what other planets it has been fought on.

I get that, it's just weird to call it a War for Cybertron Trilogy regardless.

But wouldn't it have been better to instead call part one the War for Cybertron, part two Earth Rise and then part three whatever-my-name-will-be?

News Credits: 4877 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:11 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I didn't notice until now that Optimus has that stupid silver stripe on each of his arms that both MP-1/MP-4 and MP-10 had but which he never had in either the G1 cartoon or comics. His truck mode didn't even have that silver stripe most of the time in the cartoon, so I'd rather they got rid of it altogether if it meant each of arms wouldn't have to have that stupid stripe.

Those first MPs were to emulate both the toy and the show with the silver stripe there to give him a silver stripe in truck mode, like the G1 toy. I never minded that element. The fact that he still has it in the Earthrise figure when it doesnt seem to be for the truck mode does end up looking a bit ridiculous though, when other parts needed that paint more.

Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:20 pm

Cobotron wrote:Maybe they will give us a Micromaster Roller. He would be a cool candidate for a Weaponizer too. Makes a lot of sense for him to become weapons and armor for the big boss man.

Love the weaponizer idea for Roller. Love it.

News Credits: 17 · Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:58 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)

Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.