Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:22 pm

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Just curious, was there ever a pre order listing for Skylynx on Amazon? Even if it isn't available, I just like to add them as a sort of checklist.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:38 pm

o.supreme wrote:Just curious, was there ever a pre order listing for Skylynx on Amazon? Even if it isn't available, I just like to add them as a sort of checklist.


Yes, I pre-ordered there when he was first announced, been sold out for a while.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:39 pm

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That is perfect. Thank you so much. For some reason I can.never get items to show up in searches if they are currently unavailable.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:13 pm

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Ordered Cliffjumper tonight along with the Ghosts of Cybertron Trade from Amazon, looking forward to finally getting him in hand, he is the one i really want from the wave.

I'll see the others eventually to get, not really rushed with them at all.

Also, I really wish they had used a different Wheeljack head mold, I really don't like that one that much
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:17 pm

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What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:18 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
Did you mean design?

Just a different head mold. that one just doesn't work for me. it feels too round and soft
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:15 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
Did you mean design?

Just a different head mold. that one just doesn't work for me. it feels too round and soft

I tend to agree, the headsculpt is the weakest part of ER Wheeljack (at least looks-wise). IMO, CW Wheeljack has the best headsculpt of the Generations Wheeljacks. For all faults of that toy, the one thing it got right was the headsculpt.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:18 pm

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I think the headsculpt is mostly fine, it just needs to be a bit bigger. Then again it could be the arms and feet being too chunky in comparison to the torso and head
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:33 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
Did you mean design?

Just a different head mold. that one just doesn't work for me. it feels too round and soft
I was poking at your word choice, good sir. To say you wish they had used "a different head mold" is to imply that the ER Wheeljack tooling had a variety of different Wheeljack head molds to choose from, and it generally doesn't work that way :P

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I think the headsculpt is mostly fine, it just needs to be a bit bigger. Then again it could be the arms and feet being too chunky in comparison to the torso and head
You know, sometimes that's the price of a transforming Transformers toy. It's not like the pinheads of Classics Mirage and Hot Rod, it's well within reasonable range.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:56 am

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Tuned Agent wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
Did you mean design?

Just a different head mold. that one just doesn't work for me. it feels too round and soft

I tend to agree, the headsculpt is the weakest part of ER Wheeljack (at least looks-wise). IMO, CW Wheeljack has the best headsculpt of the Generations Wheeljacks. For all faults of that toy, the one thing it got right was the headsculpt.

I wonder if the balljoints are the right size to swap the heads
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:46 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
Did you mean design?
Just a different head mold. that one just doesn't work for me. it feels too round and soft
I tend to agree, the headsculpt is the weakest part of ER Wheeljack (at least looks-wise). IMO, CW Wheeljack has the best headsculpt of the Generations Wheeljacks. For all faults of that toy, the one thing it got right was the headsculpt.
I wonder if the balljoints are the right size to swap the heads
This got me genuinely curious. I've never considered which headsculpt I preferred. I tossed together a quick comparison with MP in there just for fun.

TheManyFacesOfWheeljack.jpg


ER and MP's "head fins?" are a little on the "crazy/unkempt" side. I think I'd like the CW best if the fins were painted silver. As it stands I'm going with the gen figure as my preferred head sculpt/deco. I dig the clear "ears" and light piping.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:43 pm

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carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:What other mold could they have used than the one that was part of the ER toy? :P
Did you mean design?
Just a different head mold. that one just doesn't work for me. it feels too round and soft
I tend to agree, the headsculpt is the weakest part of ER Wheeljack (at least looks-wise). IMO, CW Wheeljack has the best headsculpt of the Generations Wheeljacks. For all faults of that toy, the one thing it got right was the headsculpt.
I wonder if the balljoints are the right size to swap the heads
This got me genuinely curious. I've never considered which headsculpt I preferred. I tossed together a quick comparison with MP in there just for fun.

TheManyFacesOfWheeljack.jpg


ER and MP's "head fins?" are a little on the "crazy/unkempt" side. I think I'd like the CW best if the fins were painted silver. As it stands I'm going with the gen figure as my preferred head sculpt/deco. I dig the clear "ears" and light piping.

I agree with the Generations one having the best head sculpt. I also wish the headsculpts drifted a little closer to Alex Milne or Prime wheeljack personally
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:55 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:57 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Was Milne the one who started the thing of drawing G1 characters like they were Aligned characters?

Dunno what you are talking about, but no.

He is the one who is drawing Galaxies and TF vs Terminator currently, and makes any Transformer look infinitely better than almost every other artist. His attention to detail and stylizations are awesome.

If you are referring to Ex-RiD from around 2011, that was Andrew Griffith drawing them like their FOC bodies
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:13 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:If you are referring to Ex-RiD from around 2011, that was Andrew Griffith drawing them like their FOC bodies
And (unless some interview has stated otherwise to my unawares, which is entirely possible) I'd bet that that was probably per request by Hasbro since, at the time, that was when Hasbro was wanting all of its mainstream licensees to have everything tie into the Aligned continuity, but which IDW only went as far as using the WFC/FOC body designs rather than dropping their main G1 continuity altogether (which is something Hasbro did want them to do at the time, but which ultimately did not happen until the Unicron mini-series in 2018).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:02 pm

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Do you guys favor ER over Siege at all, or do you look at them the same way? I'm asking because the more I think about it the more I'm leaning toward ER, for the simple fact that they're giving us figures which already have representation in media, mainly the G1 cartoon. Siege figures are really good too, and I got most of the line, but honestly, besides Omega, Magnus and Shockwave, none of the figures appealed to me especially, because their appearances are different. I didn't realize this until recently, because I kept looking my Siege collection, and I felt something was off. Now I know. They're still great figures and I'm glad I got them, but I'm looking forward to ER much more.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:14 pm

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Honestly I feel that ER is part 2 of 3 of the overall WFC Trilogy. The packaging is the same as Siege, even if the gimmicks are slightly different, even some items from Siege are being re released in ER. My only complaint so far is that it feels like a relatively small line, though no doubt there is more to be revealed, though due to present circumstances, we probably don't know when these new items will be revealed.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:20 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Do you guys favor ER over Siege at all, or do you look at them the same way?
Overall I think I favor Siege more. It seemed to have had more excitement or maybe it seemed to offer something new, cybertronian alt modes and no "forced line wide gimmicks". For me ER feels like a slump, like Hasbro blew their wad on Siege that they're either coasting on fumes or catching their breath. This is probably just me projecting because I filled a lot of gaps and replaced a lot of previous purchased bots during the siege.

I will say that in hindsight, I wish I would have waited for ER on a few purchases. With that said I'm starting to consider if I should also pump the brakes and wait for part 3. :-?

Either way, ER feels less exciting and I feel less motivated to pick up any additional figures.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:32 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Back to Earthrise. If you want to discuss comic art styles, please do so in the comics forum.

Do you guys favor ER over Siege at all, or do you look at them the same way? I'm asking because the more I think about it the more I'm leaning toward ER, for the simple fact that they're giving us figures which already have representation in media, mainly the G1 cartoon. Siege figures are really good too, and I got most of the line, but honestly, besides Omega, Magnus and Shockwave, none of the figures appealed to me especially, because their appearances are different. I didn't realize this until recently, because I kept looking my Siege collection, and I felt something was off. Now I know. They're still great figures and I'm glad I got them, but I'm looking forward to ER much more.
Honestly? I see the trilogy as a single unit broken up for marketing purposes, and the G1 cartoon is a heavy influence on all parts. Every non-Micromaster SIEGE figure other than Cog, Brunt, Impactor, Skytread, Lionizer, Spinister, Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, and Barricade, is based on the G1 cartoon. That's why the Seekers have faux-parts F-15 ducts and cockpits despite turning into pyramid-like alien jets (which, I might add, originate from the G1 cartoon). That's why Soundwave still has tape player details and can be fanmoded into a roughly G1 transformation even w/o add-on panels. That's why Megatron has Walther P38 hammer halves on his shoulders. That's why Astrotrain's engine mode looks like a JNR D51 and his shuttle mode looks like a NASA shuttle. That's why to varying degrees (Voyager) Optimus Prime, Ratchet and Ironhide, Prowl, Mirage, and most blatantly Sideswipe turn into suspiciously Earthlike vehicles (the others can pass as Cybertronian, especially Optimus, but Sideswipe is blatantly an Earth car wearing "I'm totes an alien car UwU" stickers). Springer and Skyfire are how they looked in the cartoon (including Springer having a more distinct car mode thanks to the fenders moving past the hood), and Impactor matches the comics fairly well.

I look at the SIEGE versions of Optimus and the Seekers as WFC's equivalent of the Cybertron Mode figures from Animated - although the effect is lesser because of WFC duplicating the cartoon's "Alien altmode, Earth robot mode" thing.

With the exception of Megatron (for various reasons) and Arcee (Idiotic attempt to downscale the MP, instead of going with the proven techniques of the T30 toy), I'm largely looking forward to what Earthrise is adding: Optimus' Earth mode (complete with trailer, the Main 3 Seekers' Earth modes and the Coneheads, Scorponok, Grapple and Inferno, Astrotrain in a box stores will stock, Hoist and Trailbreaker, Cliffjumper (Quite distinct from Bumblebee, too), Snapdragon, Scorponok, Fast-Track, Sunstreaker, and so on... Quite a lot to enjoy, frankly.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:33 pm

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Doing a rough comparison:

Siege Battlemasters (purchased all)
ER battlemasters (plan to purchase all even though only 3 have been announced)

Siege Micromasters (none)
ER Micromasters (dont plan on purchasing any)

Siege Deluxes (including Selects): Purchased 7
ER Purchased 1, plan to purchase 3 more

Siege Voyagers (none)
ER Voyagers (plan to purchase none)

Siege Leaders 1
ER Leaders 1 (plan to purchase 1 other, and any more revealed)

Siege CC (purchased)
ER CC (plan to purchase)

Siege Titan (Purchased)
ER Titan (plan to purchase)

I think the biggest difference is the smallest price point figures, even though many were repaints, we got at least 15 or so. With ER, the smallest Price Point only has 3 revealed
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:18 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I think the biggest difference is the smallest price point figures, even though many were repaints, we got at least 15 or so. With ER, the smallest Price Point only has 3 revealed


With 2 re-releases (Smashdown and Rung) that makes 5. Ninja Turtles! Now they're live!

To level the playing field a bit more, Siege had 6/7 molds, depending on how one counts retools. Earthrise has 3 molds revealed, so already half way.
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New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Doubledealer

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:41 pm

We have new images of everyone's favourite missile bird bot, Doubledealer. These images come from Dorkside Toys and give us our best look yet at what the figure will look like on the shelves. This transformer has four modes rather than three like in G1. Not only does it transform into a missile launching vehicle, bot and bird (with a much better missile placement) but he also has a base mode this time. We can see it below. The image of him in packaging gives us a good idea of his closer to voyager height in robot mode, since there is a lot of extra room in that leader class box.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:13 pm

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I'm pleased at him being closer to Voyager height, frankly. Also not surprised, considering how much mass is required by the missile, some of his bulk, and the bird bits.

Really tho, Voyager height is about the size he should be next to his peers.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:23 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm pleased at him being closer to Voyager height, frankly. Also not surprised, considering how much mass is required by the missile, some of his bulk, and the bird bits.

Really tho, Voyager height is about the size he should be next to his peers.

Looks about the same height as Astrotrain and Shockwave.
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