Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:41 pm

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Eh. On the plus side he's a triple changer and will presumably be smaller than TR Overlord, who SHOULD tower over his (well his and her, if you go by Masterforce canon) cronies.


Overlord should be a Commander class at the bare minimum though. Then he will scale at last with "titan return" God Ginrai.


Given how badly he warmed shelves we won't see another Overlord any time soon, so I'd say his massive chunky TR Leader mass is enough.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:53 pm

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I'm happy enough with using another overlord as boots/weaponiser to increase the height for now or just have him normal and the other in a different mode tho I probably would buy him again as commander class because I like overlord.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:58 pm

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Skritz wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Eh. On the plus side he's a triple changer and will presumably be smaller than TR Overlord, who SHOULD tower over his (well his and her, if you go by Masterforce canon) cronies.


Overlord should be a Commander class at the bare minimum though. Then he will scale at last with "titan return" God Ginrai.


Given how badly he warmed shelves we won't see another Overlord any time soon, so I'd say his massive chunky TR Leader mass is enough.


He warmed shelved because he was overproduced and came with almost every waves of TR leaders. That was ridiculous.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:05 pm

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For all who are talking about Doubledealer: Ryan confirmed at the event that Doubledealer is a leader, but he is about the same size as Astrotrain. He is still voyager height, but is pretty damn wide and deep

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Eh. On the plus side he's a triple changer and will presumably be smaller than TR Overlord, who SHOULD tower over his (well his and her, if you go by Masterforce canon) cronies.


Overlord should be a Commander class at the bare minimum though. Then he will scale at last with "titan return" God Ginrai.


Given how badly he warmed shelves we won't see another Overlord any time soon, so I'd say his massive chunky TR Leader mass is enough.


He warmed shelved because he was overproduced and came with almost every waves of TR leaders. That was ridiculous.

This is incorrect, Overlord was the final Leader of the line and shipped in a solid case, that's why he suffered
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:07 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Eh. On the plus side he's a triple changer and will presumably be smaller than TR Overlord, who SHOULD tower over his (well his and her, if you go by Masterforce canon) cronies.


Overlord should be a Commander class at the bare minimum though. Then he will scale at last with "titan return" God Ginrai.


Given how badly he warmed shelves we won't see another Overlord any time soon, so I'd say his massive chunky TR Leader mass is enough.


He warmed shelved because he was overproduced and came with almost every waves of TR leaders. That was ridiculous.


Not quite, he was the last Leader released in Titans Return, only in the final wave and came 2 to a pack. So I would say more of a tail-ender syndrome than being over produced and over released. Plus the end of Titans Return was a mess in general.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:44 pm

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Some of us never saw Sky Shadow or Overlord on the shelves at all, let alone saw them shelfwarming. *Glares burning daggers at TLK Turbo Changer Dragonstorm*
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:39 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:but is pretty damn wide and deep


Reminds me of my ex.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:12 am

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For all who are talking about Doubledealer: Ryan confirmed at the event that Doubledealer is a leader, but he is about the same size as Astrotrain. He is still voyager height, but is pretty damn wide and deep


Reminds me of my ex.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:57 am

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william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:but is pretty damn wide and deep


Reminds me of my ex.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:44 am

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Moving along, I call for the inevitable Gen Select Double-Clouder.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:41 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Moving along, I call for the inevitable Gen Select Double-Clouder.
It would be cool, but at the same time I'm not sure if they'd bother with that one thanks to the Masterforce animators screwing up and using the Doubledealer colors instead of the Doubleclouder colors. And the difference is "White where Doubledealer is gray, plus extra paint apps"
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:58 am

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ER Megatron’s head looks like Cyberverse Megatron. It’s not right. Scorponok’s head has now gone the opposite direction and looks too big and he has weird baby ankles. We just got Smokescreen. I’m so disappointed with ER’s offerings. I had such high hopes and I’ve just been mostly crestfallen. I’m usually such a booster my TF energy has gone from Feng Shui to Feng Sh*t.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:33 pm

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Stargrave wrote:ER Megatron’s head looks like Cyberverse Megatron. It’s not right.
I think that reflects less on ER Megatron and more on A. How wonky G1 Megs' head is in the cartoon (its usual shape is based on a misinterpretation of the toy's head from a certain angle) and B. how well the Cyberverse toy captured that look
Stargrave wrote:Scorponok’s head has now gone the opposite direction and looks too big and he has weird baby ankles.
How so? It's no wider than the central panel of his chest, and is tall in proportion to that width. It should look fine in hand, especially next to Fort Max. As for the ankles... It's necessary to give clearance for his feet folding up in scorpion mode and for the built-in ramps, while still allowing him to have ankle tilts.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:33 pm

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Stargrave wrote:ER Megatron’s head looks like Cyberverse Megatron. It’s not right. Scorponok’s head has now gone the opposite direction and looks too big and he has weird baby ankles. We just got Smokescreen. I’m so disappointed with ER’s offerings. I had such high hopes and I’ve just been mostly crestfallen. I’m usually such a booster my TF energy has gone from Feng Shui to Feng Sh*t.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:57 pm

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I'll be honest, Earthirse so far hasn't been the thrill Siege was. So far, I've only been interested in half the figures that I was for Siege when they were revealed
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:20 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Moving along, I call for the inevitable Gen Select Double-Clouder.
It would be cool, but at the same time I'm not sure if they'd bother with that one thanks to the Masterforce animators screwing up and using the Doubledealer colors instead of the Doubleclouder colors. And the difference is "White where Doubledealer is gray, plus extra paint apps"


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:27 pm

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Come on we all know it'll be a stalker repaint (actually they'll do both, one as a retail release, one as Selects)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:35 pm

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Siege definitely had a much bigger sense of "new and exciting" attached to it, being the first line of a brand new trilogy, offering a level of detail in engineering, sculpting, and paint applications not seen before in the Generations line, and producing a lot of top-tier characters in forms that are perhaps the best modern representations of their G1 selves outside of Masterpiece. Earthrise, by comparison, feels like it's running behind schedule, thanks to being pushed off by a change in Siege to create a fifth wave of that instead of wrapping up at four, like originally planned. It's also produced some "duplicate" characters in the line-up that, while are noticeably better in many ways to their Siege versions just last year, are only incrementally better than what just came before, compared to the big quality leap between Power of the Primes and Siege. That, and the fact that we simply could have "waited" to get a better Optimus Prime or Starscream feels like money "wasted" on their "stop-gap" Siege versions. Splitting off into a new subline with the Netflix redecos is probably not helping the Earthrise hype train too much either, honestly. What Earthrise needs right now is more reveals, a better understanding of exactly what will be available when, and more details on the upcoming "Generations Selects" repaints of some of these molds. I have a good feeling that some amazing stuff is on the way, but we have to be a little more patient, and Hasbro has to be just a little less secretive about their "roadmap" for 2020 at this point.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:37 pm

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Given recent trends, the Selects redeco actually has a strong chance of being Cybertron Defense Red Alert. I'd prefer it be Stalker or MW Soundwave, because as an owner of the original Cybertron Defense Red Alert I don't really care for a watered-down version :P That, and the Decepticon ranks need the swelling more.

ZeroWolf, I don't think you're quite being fair to SIEGE Optimus and Starscream by calling the Earthrise versions "better" versions. Especially not Starscream. Earthrise Starscream isn't better per se, he's just an Earth Mode version. And in the case of the Seekers, that's a very strong distinction. There is quite a difference between a tetrajet and an F-15 Eagle, so I'm quite happy to double-dip there. If ER Starscream makes me regret getting anything, it's PotP Starscream. Now, I'll grant you that Optimus is a more uneven case since even leaving aside the trailer (which bumps him up a size class) the ER version has an actual removeable Matrix and the SIEGE version does not. But I think the SIEGE version does still succeed at looking unearthly thanks to the clear grille and the giant roof lights. Definitely looks less like an Earth vehicle than, say, Sideswipe.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:40 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Given recent trends, the Selects redeco actually has a strong chance of being Cybertron Defense Red Alert. I'd prefer it be Stalker or MW Soundwave, because as an owner of the original Cybertron Defense Red Alert I don't really care for a watered-down version :P That, and the Decepticon ranks need the swelling more.


What would Red Alert do with the cassettes then?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:44 pm

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The same thing Stalker would do... Nothing
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:03 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Given recent trends, the Selects redeco actually has a strong chance of being Cybertron Defense Red Alert. I'd prefer it be Stalker or MW Soundwave, because as an owner of the original Cybertron Defense Red Alert I don't really care for a watered-down version :P That, and the Decepticon ranks need the swelling more.


What would Red Alert do with the cassettes then?
Nothing necessarily. I'm just saying that certain trends make him a likely possibility. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Crosswise redeco of Earthrise Smokescreen, for the same reason. That would be amusing, considering something about Crosswise.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:04 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:The same thing Stalker would do... Nothing

They could always do... *gasp* something original *gasp* or something witty and referential, I know they have it in them >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:54 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Moving along, I call for the inevitable Gen Select Double-Clouder.
It would be cool, but at the same time I'm not sure if they'd bother with that one thanks to the Masterforce animators screwing up and using the Doubledealer colors instead of the Doubleclouder colors. And the difference is "White where Doubledealer is gray, plus extra paint apps"


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Excellent point sir.

Also...when do we expect Walmart will start to stock this line?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:07 pm

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Counterpunch wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Moving along, I call for the inevitable Gen Select Double-Clouder.
It would be cool, but at the same time I'm not sure if they'd bother with that one thanks to the Masterforce animators screwing up and using the Doubledealer colors instead of the Doubleclouder colors. And the difference is "White where Doubledealer is gray, plus extra paint apps"


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Excellent point sir.

Also...when do we expect Walmart will start to stock this line?


Walmart? Stocking Transformers toys? Likely not anytime soon, lol! ;)
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