Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:27 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?


It's the same toy as the Siege toy isn't it?, just promoting a different alt mode, or did I miss something?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:42 pm

o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?


It's the same toy as the Siege toy isn't it?, just promoting a different alt mode, or did I miss something?


Sort of? They removed the backpack, and retooled the chest and waist. But left the arms alone, so it is no longer a space barge, only a cassette player (with some useless landing gear).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:45 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:We've got nothing confirming an Inferno retool from Grapple yet either.
The current credible rumors for Kingdom say that Inferno-retooled-from-Grapple is coming in that line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:46 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?


It's the same toy as the Siege toy isn't it?, just promoting a different alt mode, or did I miss something?


Sort of? They removed the backpack, and retooled the chest and waist. But left the arms alone, so it is no longer a space barge, only a cassette player (with some useless landing gear).


Hrmmm that is some sort of weird hybrid then, because I know with the previous Siege Soundwave you could *fan mode* it into a Cassette player... Thankfully I have no interest in it, so I don't know what you would call it. I'm sure fans of soundwave are thrilled, but in any event, I doubt they would release this separately as an Earthrise voyager single release.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:48 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?


It's the same toy as the Siege toy isn't it?, just promoting a different alt mode, or did I miss something?


Sort of? They removed the backpack, and retooled the chest and waist. But left the arms alone, so it is no longer a space barge, only a cassette player (with some useless landing gear).

Tthat landing gear really sticks out too if you have the siege version and know what it is.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:49 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:It's a bit of a shame that Earthrise may have little else to offer that hasn't already been leaked or revealed by now. We know Thrust is coming at some point, but there's no sign of another Leader Class figure after Doubledealer. We've got nothing confirming an Inferno retool from Grapple yet either. Now that we have the Ironhide and Prowl 2-pack coming in November, what about Ratchet and Bluestreak? Will some of these be relegated to Kingdom instead? Or maybe they'll come in a third wave of Netflix branded product next year to tie in to the Earthrise cartoon? Is there more to the map puzzle than meets the eye? Maybe more is to be added yet. Another consideration is that after the map is complete, nothing says Hasbro can't release future Earthrise waves without map pieces or with redundant map pieces if they wish to pad out the subline a little further as happened with Siege.


We do have the leak placing G1 Inferno in Kingdom already. My guess is either Ratchet or Bluestreak will be the Walgreens exclusive with the other either being pushed to Kingdom as well, or possibly selects.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:53 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It's a bit of a shame that Earthrise may have little else to offer that hasn't already been leaked or revealed by now. We know Thrust is coming at some point, but there's no sign of another Leader Class figure after Doubledealer. We've got nothing confirming an Inferno retool from Grapple yet either. Now that we have the Ironhide and Prowl 2-pack coming in November, what about Ratchet and Bluestreak? Will some of these be relegated to Kingdom instead? Or maybe they'll come in a third wave of Netflix branded product next year to tie in to the Earthrise cartoon? Is there more to the map puzzle than meets the eye? Maybe more is to be added yet. Another consideration is that after the map is complete, nothing says Hasbro can't release future Earthrise waves without map pieces or with redundant map pieces if they wish to pad out the subline a little further as happened with Siege.


We do have the leak placing G1 Inferno in Kingdom already. My guess is either Ratchet or Bluestreak will be the Walgreens exclusive with the other either being pushed to Kingdom as well, or possibly selects.

There's questionably credible evidence placing Ratchet in Selects, and we know that however Bluestreak is coming he comes in a case to himself, so he's probably Walgreens.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:10 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?


It's the same toy as the Siege toy isn't it?, just promoting a different alt mode, or did I miss something?


Sort of? They removed the backpack, and retooled the chest and waist. But left the arms alone, so it is no longer a space barge, only a cassette player (with some useless landing gear).

If you really look at it, most of Netflix Soundwave is new parta compared to Siege. Definitely reused engineering and the head and feet and arms below the biceps, but a loooot of new sculpting.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:24 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Glarryg wrote:Is it just me or is Elita painted like a human woman in bike shorts?

Glarryg


For me that is close. I see an Irish gal who normally wears knee length shorts, but is now wearing a swimsuit. Tan calves and pasty-white thighs.
It's how her thighs looked in the cartoon:

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No it isn't. As those pictures clearly show, she was pink in the cartoon :P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:35 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:We've got nothing confirming an Inferno retool from Grapple yet either.
The current credible rumors for Kingdom say that Inferno-retooled-from-Grapple is coming in that line.


I thought those leaks were unconfirmed at this point. You're not just referring to the "list" that popped up the other week, right? The one with "Powermaster Megatron" on it?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:37 pm

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The inferno rumours came before that from the sane source that leaked slag and Daniel from studio series 86, and a whole host of others we have listings for.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:56 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?


It's the same toy as the Siege toy isn't it?, just promoting a different alt mode, or did I miss something?


Sort of? They removed the backpack, and retooled the chest and waist. But left the arms alone, so it is no longer a space barge, only a cassette player (with some useless landing gear).

If you really look at it, most of Netflix Soundwave is new parta compared to Siege. Definitely reused engineering and the head and feet and arms below the biceps, but a loooot of new sculpting.


Should've really got rid of the landing gear parts on the forearms... So stupid.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:11 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:We've got nothing confirming an Inferno retool from Grapple yet either.
The current credible rumors for Kingdom say that Inferno-retooled-from-Grapple is coming in that line.


I thought those leaks were unconfirmed at this point. You're not just referring to the "list" that popped up the other week, right? The one with "Powermaster Megatron" on it?

Nope, Kingdom Inferno from Earthrise Grapple was from the leaked list that included the weirdly-specific-if-fake "Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag w/ Daniel", shortly before that specifically was confirmed by a listing on iirc Walmart's website; and iirc, was from the same leaker that before that, talked about Studio Series 86 Kup, Blurr, and Jazz, shortly before those were confirmed by listings as well. It's legit.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:33 pm

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That IS a surprisingly bad head sculpt on that Megatron... Either the helmet/head is much too small for the face, or vice versa.
Either way, that's really really poor considering how on point Hasbro's been with head sculpts for a while.

Also, saw ER Starscream and Snapdragon at my local Target early this afternoon.
As much as I wanted to be open to Snapdragon, I wasn't at all impressed.

Right now here's what I'm looking for:

ER
Conehead 2 pack (already preordered)
Thrust

SS '86 Movie (?)
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Then depending on what we get from the SS '86 Line, the following are maybe's:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:45 pm

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Glarryg wrote:Is it just me or is Elita painted like a human woman in bike shorts?

Glarryg


For me that is close. I see an Irish gal who normally wears knee length shorts, but is now wearing a swimsuit. Tan calves and pasty-white thighs.
It's how her thighs looked in the cartoon:
No it isn't. As those pictures clearly show, she was pink in the cartoon :P
You did read what I wrote, right? Her thighs were white.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:29 pm

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Yes, Sabrblade, I read what you wrote. I'd argue that her thighs are more of a very pale pink than white. Besides that, her thighs certainly weren't in contrast with tan calves (which is part of how TF-fan kev777 described them as looking) in the cartoon; her calves in the cartoon are the same color as the thighs, at least above the "boot" area.

Tan calves or in fact tan anything didn't figure into Elita's cartoon colors at all.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:40 pm

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I don't really care because I probably wouldn't have bought Elita either way.
But if those photos are really the colors we'll see in the finished figure, that's not good.
That's not good at all.

I'm not even saying the show colors are awesome... But imo they're substantially better than that photo...
Deeper (slightly darker) pinks could've worked. But that tan is really bad... Maybe because it's too close to an actual human skin color.
How in the world is this going to sell??
*I don't really needs answers/responses, just thinking out loud based on my opinion that this is a horrible figure.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:16 pm

So finally spent some time playing with Scropnok and dragged out the other titans (return). And.... as much as I prefer beast mode and robot mode.... it actually made me appreciate Tyripticon’s “Shuttle” and bade mode more (need to find the sticker sheet and keep tackling those bastards). Also made me wish I’d gotten TR leader Soundwave and the (takara?) Rumble/Frenzy Retools is Rewind....

Starting to feel Omega is the best of the Titan/Cityformers.... especially given his extra connection points for TR and the A.I.R.L.O.C.K system. Sad that (unless I’m missing them) Scorponok only has connectors on the ends of his ramps.... and no backwards compatibility....

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:53 pm

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Hurray for that, then! Though, I would like Inferno sooner rather than later.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:32 pm

This might technically be a Siege post... but just my last follow up on my previous post about Scorpinok. He really could have tried to integrate better. Maybe with the Quinteson prison, and maybe they’ll surprise us with a few more.

But Omega just really plays well with both Ironworks, and the older TR stuff.

As a bonus, Apeface playing with himself.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:53 pm

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:So finally spent some time playing with Scropnok and dragged out the other titans (return). And.... as much as I prefer beast mode and robot mode.... it actually made me appreciate Tyripticon’s “Shuttle” and bade mode more (need to find the sticker sheet and keep tackling those bastards). Also made me wish I’d gotten TR leader Soundwave and the (takara?) Rumble/Frenzy Retools is Rewind....

Starting to feel Omega is the best of the Titan/Cityformers.... especially given his extra connection points for TR and the A.I.R.L.O.C.K system. Sad that (unless I’m missing them) Scorponok only has connectors on the ends of his ramps.... and no backwards compatibility....

Really hoping we get a commander class decepticon that has a base/attachment mode... *crosses fingers* maybe Tidalwave
1. The Rumble retool was Hasbro as well. Red and black was sold in Titans Return as Rumble. There was no blue version from either company until the Bumblebee toyline, which sold a 3-pack of Spy Tablets (Frenzy, Buzzsaw, and Howlback) to go with its special edition of TR Soundwave. You can probably find that Soundwave for cheaper. Maybe even at Ross or the like - he was a shelfwarmer from what I saw.

2. It would be good if somebody released a small bridge piece that could adapt between A.I.R.L.O.C.K. and the TR base connectors. Did they ever explain why the crap they changed it?

3. A Commander-class re-do of Overlord would be good for that want. He'd size better with Legends God Ginrai, and be able to have a much more impressive base mode, more along the lines of what the original toy had:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:23 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:So finally spent some time playing with Scropnok and dragged out the other titans (return). And.... as much as I prefer beast mode and robot mode.... it actually made me appreciate Tyripticon’s “Shuttle” and bade mode more (need to find the sticker sheet and keep tackling those bastards). Also made me wish I’d gotten TR leader Soundwave and the (takara?) Rumble/Frenzy Retools is Rewind....

Starting to feel Omega is the best of the Titan/Cityformers.... especially given his extra connection points for TR and the A.I.R.L.O.C.K system. Sad that (unless I’m missing them) Scorponok only has connectors on the ends of his ramps.... and no backwards compatibility....

Really hoping we get a commander class decepticon that has a base/attachment mode... *crosses fingers* maybe Tidalwave
1. The Rumble retool was Hasbro as well. Red and black was sold in Titans Return as Rumble. There was no blue version from either company until the Bumblebee toyline, which sold a 3-pack of Spy Tablets (Frenzy, Buzzsaw, and Howlback) to go with its special edition of TR Soundwave. You can probably find that Soundwave for cheaper. Maybe even at Ross or the like - he was a shelfwarmer from what I saw.

2. It would be good if somebody released a small bridge piece that could adapt between A.I.R.L.O.C.K. and the TR base connectors. Did they ever explain why the crap they changed it?

3. A Commander-class re-do of Overlord would be good for that want. He'd size better with Legends God Ginrai, and be able to have a much more impressive base mode, more along the lines of what the original toy had:
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Side note: You should totally stick the smaller Zarak head on TR Galvatron and take a pic.


Would have to dig Galvatron out of storage... but I'll see what I can do. I dig that OG Overlord. But the Skyshadow/Overlord mold was my favorite leader from Titan's Return (not that there was many of them).

**EDIT/UPDATE***

You bring up a good point of why they swapped connectors... wish i knew. I'd guess the new ones are a bit more friendly at different sizes (like the shield/ramp masters). But some kind of adapter would be cool.

I knew there was a reason I wanted that three pack... just couldn't remember why... I think it's because there was only *one* thing I wanted out of it lol.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:05 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. It would be good if somebody released a small bridge piece that could adapt between A.I.R.L.O.C.K. and the TR base connectors. Did they ever explain why the crap they changed it?


I don't recall an official explanation but the most likely reason is because the TR connectors suck big time.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:59 am

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The AIRLOCK system is better than TR, but it's nice that Omega Supreme bridges the gulf. To have them on Scorponok would have been nice also, but not necessary. I finally have all the parts I need for the TR City, now just a couple missing pieces for Earthrise. I'm really hoping deluxe wave 2 comes out soon, it would be nice to add Airwave in the pics, if not, oh well. It will most likely be mid August before my Doubledealer arrives from Amazon.

Missing Parts to complete TR/AIRLOCK City:

Doubledealer (Shipping form Amazon)
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Sheeldron (Part of Netflix Wave 2, will obtain from Walmart whenever released)
Doublecrosser (ER wave 3, will obtain whenever released)
Hothouse (presumably Selects, will obtain once released)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Omegatron. » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. It would be good if somebody released a small bridge piece that could adapt between A.I.R.L.O.C.K. and the TR base connectors. Did they ever explain why the crap they changed it?


There's one on shapeways that works well.
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