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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Shredd the Dinobot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:16 pm

I kind of hated Cybertron to be honest (either CG or 2D please, they almost never look good together) But I did really like that Optimus design. I love the cab on its own without the armor more than thevother Optimus, the vehicle actually looks kind of cybertronian compared to the other Siege Optimus. That being said I like the overall look of the first one better... But this one has a fun super mode... I don't know what to get XD

If you paint the armor parts black and white, and slap them on the Ultra Magnus Prime it could make for a cool IDW Nova/Nemisis Prime custom...

On that note am I the only one that wished they used POTP to release figures for Primes that don't have Proper figures like Sentinel and Nova. I didn't expect them to do the Thirteen(they should get there own line that focuses primarily on them and there conflicts, no modern bots). I can't wait to see what else we get in this trilogy. I hope we get war for Cybertron inspired Dinobots at some point, those were probably the best designs they've ever gotten.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Munkky » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:21 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

As far as I can remember, at least one version of Unicron Trilogy Optimus (the original Armada design I think) was on a poll to see which Convoy would get a new Masterpiece figure, and Star Saber ended up winning. Other than that, I don't remember Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus specifically being in a fan poll.

I never owned the original Cybertron Optimus, and I was going to avoid most of the Seige line, but I am impressed with this new Optimus and may even swap out the Power of the Primes Leader for this one on my main Autobot display. It would also be great if that Cybertron Defense Hot Shot from the Hound mould happens at some point, because that's another figure I never had.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby notsoalex » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:33 pm

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starrhero wrote:Has anybody mentioned this possible third pic of Leader Optimus without his armor? It looks almost identical to the IDW comics, as we expected it would.

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Edit: Well then, I guess somebody had mentioned the third pic. :lol:


Yup! Not in the forums though. I'll add your name in the post since you mentioned it before I wrote the post, but you won't receive a credit.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:36 pm

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Munkky wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?

As far as I can remember, at least one version of Unicron Trilogy Optimus (the original Armada design I think) was on a poll to see which Convoy would get a new Masterpiece figure, and Star Saber ended up winning. Other than that, I don't remember Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus specifically being in a fan poll.

I never owned the original Cybertron Optimus, and I was going to avoid most of the Seige line, but I am impressed with this new Optimus and may even swap out the Power of the Primes Leader for this one on my main Autobot display. It would also be great if that Cybertron Defense Hot Shot from the Hound mould happens at some point, because that's another figure I never had.

Yeah the only poll Cybertron Prime was on was the masterpiece one.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:40 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?


Back in 2013... Here are the final results:

11th Fortress Maximus (The Headmasters)
10th Grand Convoy (Superlink/Energon)
9th Lio Convoy (Beast Wars II)
8th Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo)
7th Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force/Cybertron)
6th Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal)
5th Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots/Robots in Disguise)
4th Dai Atlas (Zone)
3rd Super Ginrai (Super God Masterforce)
2nd Micron Densetsu Convoy (Armada)
1st Star Saber (Victory)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby notsoalex » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:44 pm

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I actually have an interesting story to tell. Back when Titans Return started and Powermaster Optimus Prime came out, I wanted CW Magnus, and the Commemorative Series Powermaster Optimus Prime. Since TR Powermaster Optimus Prime was a retool of CW Magnus as, well, Powermaster Optimus Prime, I had the best of both worlds! I ended up getting Ultra Magnus through the discounted Platinum Edition multipack.

Fate repeats here, awesomely enough. I want Siege Ultra Magnus and Cybertron Optimus Prime, and guess what! A retool of Siege Magnus appears as Cybertron Optimus. I mean, like, having an OG Cybertron Optimus Prime would be amazing, this will still be a great substitute, and Cybertron Optimus Primes are expensive. And Siege Magnus I can still get, but I'll wait till a few months from now when it'll eventually go on clearance, assuming I have money at that moment, of course.

It's just interesting how the same thing that happened, like, 3 years ago is happening again.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Back up a minute, Wasn't Galaxy Force Prime on one of those fan polls from a couple years ago?


Back in 2013... Here are the final results:

11th Fortress Maximus (The Headmasters)
10th Grand Convoy (Superlink/Energon)
9th Lio Convoy (Beast Wars II)
8th Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo)
7th Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force/Cybertron)
6th Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal)
5th Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots/Robots in Disguise)
4th Dai Atlas (Zone)
3rd Super Ginrai (Super God Masterforce)
2nd Micron Densetsu Convoy (Armada)
1st Star Saber (Victory)


Thought so, thanks. Kind of defeats the point of the polls if they will take whatever ones they want to from it (albeit not MP). Even six years later I doubt Galaxy Force Prime would have reached higher than 7th today if polled again. In spite of a handful from that list already finding a new toy in the standard and/or MP line.

As Rodimus Prime alluded to earlier, should SIEGE in fact be commemorating the G1 anniversary (as they seem to do every other year :roll: ) Wouldn't it be nice if Part Two and Three were commemorative of Other Transformers series? For example, next year is the 20th anniversary of Car Robots/RiD (in Japan) How about that being the basis of WFC Part Two?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:02 pm

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I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:04 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll



A bit of an extremely random pick otherwise.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:06 pm

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Yes, that poll was obviously a first-past-the-post poll, not a ranked-choice poll. And was in point of fact for the MP line anyway.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll



A bit of an extremely random pick otherwise.

I think it was a pick they realized they could make work really well with the UM armoring system. Plus Cybertron Prime and his huge guns certainly go nicely with the line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:20 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I doubt we got Cybertron Prime from that poll



A bit of an extremely random pick otherwise.

Why? Wouldn't tooling um vehicle mode to resemble rid um be an odd pick? Giving hound Cybertron defense hot shots head be an odd choice? Warden didn't pick Cybertron Prime because of that poll from so long ago. As to why they choose Cybertron Prime, well they had a cab and armour... So they thought, well what Primes have super armour, and went from there.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:24 pm

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Coincidence then. Even though Powermaster Prime and/or Car Robots Prime (Who even incorporates A UM in his design) predate Galaxy Force and lend themselves easier to the same augmentation concept of SIEGE.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:27 pm

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Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ausbot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:28 pm

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I'm still hoping for a Delta magnus from Siege Ultra Magnus
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:30 pm

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We already had powermaster prime twice ;) (once in TR then take a look at the Transformation of leader op from potp) Car Robots would have been the best choice but Warden probably thought that the homage of um vehicle mode would have been enough (and it saves having to disappoint fans that Prime and um can't combine like in Car Robots)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:34 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*




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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:35 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:We already had powermaster prime twice ;) (once in TR then take a look at the Transformation of leader op from potp) Car Robots would have been the best choice but Warden probably thought that the homage of um vehicle mode would have been enough (and it saves having to disappoint fans that Prime and um can't combine like in Car Robots)



It goes back to what we were saying before, about how other lines IE Car Robots, Unicron Trilogy would work really well, if not make a more natural fit than G1, to the gimmick of SIEGE.

Fingers crossed they take heed of this with Car Robots 20th anniversary next year.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:40 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*

*raises hand so fast it makes a sonic boom*

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:We already had powermaster prime twice ;) (once in TR then take a look at the Transformation of leader op from potp) Car Robots would have been the best choice but Warden probably thought that the homage of um vehicle mode would have been enough (and it saves having to disappoint fans that Prime and um can't combine like in Car Robots)



It goes back to what we were saying before, about how other lines IE Car Robots, Unicron Trilogy would work really well, if not make a more natural fit than G1, to the gimmick of SIEGE.

Fingers crossed they take heed of this with Car Robots 20th anniversary next year.

Eh.. aside from the Autobot Brothers I think that's more a game for reissues.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:55 pm

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Shredd the Dinobot wrote:On that note am I the only one that wished they used POTP to release figures for Primes that don't have Proper figures like Sentinel and Nova. I didn't expect them to do the Thirteen(they should get there own line that focuses primarily on them and there conflicts, no modern bots). I can't wait to see what else we get in this trilogy. I hope we get war for Cybertron inspired Dinobots at some point, those were probably the best designs they've ever gotten.

Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:02 pm

Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*


Intense Hand Raise

I wasn't into collecting during the Cybertron era, and I've always loved the design for Galaxy Convoy, even if it is a bit exessive. (I mean look at those GUNS!) So getting a version of the design is amazing. Not only that, but this came entirely out of left field. Until we knew there was going to be a Leader Prime from UM, almost nobody could have predicted this, not in a million years. I was honestly thinking it was going to be ANOTHER Powermaster Prime.

Needless to say, I'm glad I was wrong. ;)^
also, I don't mind not getting the news credit, I was just currious if anybody had already mentioned it and reported it to the news crew.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:07 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?
Also, the TR Sentinel Prime figure is exactly why there wasn't one in PotP :P
Frankly, I'm more disappointed by the number of Prime Masters (the guys the line was named for and who were its unifying gimmick) that got relegated to being exclusives with no Decoy Armor.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby notsoalex » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:14 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?


Or the Prime Master, eh?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:42 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Part of the reason I’m so disappointed in PotP was specifically because they didnt have new version of Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Sentinal Prime (TR figure notwithstanding).

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What do you call the Amazon-exclusive PotP Nemesis Prime, then?


Or the Prime Master, eh?


Nah, the Prime Masters were the Pretenders pulling double duty. As I recall theirbsculpts were closer to the Pretender Inner Robots. Those dont count in my book.

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Cobotron wrote:Cybertron Prime is a beloved toy and version of Prime across the fandom.

Here's a poll, raise your hand if you think Cybertron Prime is the dopeness!

*hand raised*


Intense Hand Raise

I wasn't into collecting during the Cybertron era, and I've always loved the design for Galaxy Convoy, even if it is a bit exessive. (I mean look at those GUNS!) So getting a version of the design is amazing. Not only that, but this came entirely out of left field. Until we knew there was going to be a Leader Prime from UM, almost nobody could have predicted this, not in a million years. I was honestly thinking it was going to be ANOTHER Powermaster Prime.

Needless to say, I'm glad I was wrong. ;)^
also, I don't mind not getting the news credit, I was just currious if anybody had already mentioned it and reported it to the news crew.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:54 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:59 pm

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starrhero wrote:Has anybody mentioned this possible third pic of Leader Optimus without his armor? It looks almost identical to the IDW comics, as we expected it would.

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Edit: Well then, I guess somebody had mentioned the third pic. :lol:

So the arm kibble isn't detachable? I thought it would partsform. So either it DOES and is part of the "small alt mode" so he has less chunk in the trunk than UM or it doesn't and ends up as fake parts at the back of the tractor's cabine.
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