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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Mon May 27, 2019 12:54 am

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I agree the T30 did a really good job, but I don't hate how they did it this time around. I like that the blades look like they can clip onto the sides of the gun(s). Guess the sniper rifle is also a "combined" weapon. I think it'll be fun.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon May 27, 2019 7:49 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:...so I read the latest article put up about the card game again out of curiosity, and I think I see another potential first look at a figure. Last time I did this, I got shot down pretty quickly, but I think this might be accurate, given who it is:
Siege Ratchet maybe.JPG

-We know Ratchet is coming already
-That does appear to be the Ironhide mold
-Has the cartoon-accurate white helmet and black crest I recall most people on this thread expecting
-Most importantly, this card is a DIFFERENT design for Ratchet than the one on his individual card, as his individual card looked to be based off the old Universe mold

So if I'm right this time, then Ratchet absolutely has a molded-on lightbar like I was hoping, a cartoon-accurate head, and possibly those accessories? I'm taking the accessories with a grain of salt for now. I know Ratchet appeared in his Siege design in the new IDW run already, does anyone who's seen it want to confirm or deny this?

He also appeared in issue 4 of the current series in the Siege body.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon May 27, 2019 7:53 am

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brunt continues to look amazing; I honestly hope we get alternate faction recolors of all the weaponizers, I just need more of these guys in my life =P~
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon May 27, 2019 7:59 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:brunt continues to look amazing; I honestly hope we get alternate faction recolors of all the weaponizers, I just need more of these guys in my life =P~

Weirldy, the weaponizers (and micromasters) are the ones I'm passing on. Not that I don't like them, but to me they are parts of figures I don't have and will likely never get.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:24 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:brunt continues to look amazing; I honestly hope we get alternate faction recolors of all the weaponizers, I just need more of these guys in my life =P~

Weirldy, the weaponizers (and micromasters) are the ones I'm passing on. Not that I don't like them, but to me they are parts of figures I don't have and will likely never get.

Thats fair, I only have trypticon; but I'm super into the weaponizing gimmick, so more weaponizers will never be a bad thing for me :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ThunderThruster » Mon May 27, 2019 8:31 am

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sol magnus wrote:Weirldy, the weaponizers (and micromasters) are the ones I'm passing on. Not that I don't like them, but to me they are parts of figures I don't have and will likely never get.

I don't have Fort Max or Metroplex, but that hasn't stopped me picking up Cog and Sixgun. I don't have Trypticon, but I will be getting Brunt. The beauty of the weaponisers is the fact that you don't need their associated titan to be able to enjoy them, as they can bu utilized by other figures and (IMHO) they are nice enough figures in their own right.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon May 27, 2019 8:34 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Thats fair, I only have trypticon; but I'm super into the weaponizing gimmick, so more weaponizers will never be a bad thing for me :-D

I don't think it's bad at all. It's just having some line to not cross so I don't go off the deep end.

I'm slated to get everything from Wave 3 except Brunt, the micromasters and Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, and I'm wavering on Optimus.

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sol magnus wrote:Weirldy, the weaponizers (and micromasters) are the ones I'm passing on. Not that I don't like them, but to me they are parts of figures I don't have and will likely never get.

I don't Fort Max of Metroplex, but that hasn't stopped me picking up Cog and Sixgun. I don't have Trypticon, but I will be getting Brunt. The beauty of the weaponisers is the fact that you don't need their associated titan to be able to enjoy them, as they can bu utilized by other figures and (IMHO) they are nice enough figures in their own right.

Yeah, I get that. And hey, I wouldn't mind having the Titans. They're all acquirable. But I have a tendency to go overboard, and I have a wife and four kids. It's time for me to not go overboard.

I associate them with the Titans, and if I got them I would totally get the Titans. Just better to not go down that road.
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Possible First Look at Transformers Siege Ratchet

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:42 am

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The first time we saw Transformers Siege leader class Galaxy Optimus Prime was in comic art, and it seems like our first look at Siege Ratchet could be on some card art. Hasbro is trying to keep a standard image throughout its transformers media and thus the cards have had a lot of Siege themed designs in their art lately. In the latest card reveals, we have an image of Ratchet on the Take Cover card (shown below) and that image shows Ratchet in an identical body to Siege deluxe Ironhide. So this could be our first look at the deco for the upcoming Walgreens exclusive Ratchet. The art shows him with a black crest on a white helmet, which is Ratchet's standard colour scheme in the G1 cartoon.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon May 27, 2019 9:01 am

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Wow, siege Springer continues to look like a piece of corn on Thrilling 30 Springer's turd. The decepticon voyagers continue to be the only decent figures in the whole line.

Luckily, it looks like I won't have to spend any more money on siege figures. I showed my kids the pictures, and told them they can get these, or more Lego sets.

They chose Legos. In the past, I'd have been sad, but I'm so disappointed by Hasbro's recent and current line ups, I'm happy not to give them more money.
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Re: Possible First Look at Transformers Siege Ratchet

Postby sol magnus » Mon May 27, 2019 9:07 am

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william-james88 wrote:The first time we saw Transformers Siege leader class Galaxy Optimus Prime was in comic art, and it seems like our first look at Siege Ratchet could be on some card art. Hasbro is trying to keep a standard image throughout its transformers media and thus the cards have had a lot of Siege themed designs in their art lately. In the latest card reveals, we have an image of Ratchet on the Take Cover card (shown below) and that image shows Ratchet in an identical body to Siege deluxe Ironhide. So this could be our first look at the deco for the upcoming Walgreens exclusive Ratchet. The art shows him with a black crest on a white helmet, which is Ratchet's standard colour scheme in the G1 cartoon.

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He appeared in issue 4 of the comic in that body.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Mon May 27, 2019 9:26 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Mon May 27, 2019 9:52 am

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DeathReviews wrote:I want them 3 reflectors, but that means others will go without... And I want Brunt to fit out Trypticon of course.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nexus Knight » Mon May 27, 2019 10:18 am

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sol magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The first time we saw Transformers Siege leader class Galaxy Optimus Prime was in comic art, and it seems like our first look at Siege Ratchet could be on some card art. Hasbro is trying to keep a standard image throughout its transformers media and thus the cards have had a lot of Siege themed designs in their art lately. In the latest card reveals, we have an image of Ratchet on the Take Cover card (shown below) and that image shows Ratchet in an identical body to Siege deluxe Ironhide. So this could be our first look at the deco for the upcoming Walgreens exclusive Ratchet. The art shows him with a black crest on a white helmet, which is Ratchet's standard colour scheme in the G1 cartoon.

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He appeared in issue 4 of the comic in that body.


Yeah, and while it's noticable enough to see that it is Siege Ironhides body, there are notable differences, especially in the shoulders. The comic version sports a red cross on the left shoulder, while this card version shows a red stripe on both. There is also some details on the shoulders that don't correspond with each. Plus, the card figure is in better lighting, which gives us more colors than the pale blue glow in the comic, plus we can see more in the card.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 27, 2019 10:53 am

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Nexus Knight wrote:Yeah, and while it's noticable enough to see that it is Siege Ironhides body, there are notable differences, especially in the shoulders. The comic version sports a red cross on the left shoulder, while this card version shows a red stripe on both. There is also some details on the shoulders that don't correspond with each. Plus, the card figure is in better lighting, which gives us more colors than the pale blue glow in the comic, plus we can see more in the card.

Thanks Nexus, glad to know newsing this wasnt a complete waste (hate when that happens). The fact that the comic has a red cross is a pretty clear indication that this card would be the more representative deco for the toy, since Transformers toys can't use the red cross anymore.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon May 27, 2019 11:30 am

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I was hoping that this find was at a Walmart store. Well hopefully they will hit Walmart's soon. :PRAY: :VEHI:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 27, 2019 11:32 am

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Nemesis Destron wrote:I was hoping that this find was at a Walmart store. Well hopefully they will hit Walmart's soon. :PRAY: :VEHI:

It would be rather early for Walmart. The release date for these toys is July 2019.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Mon May 27, 2019 11:52 am

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sol magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The first time we saw Transformers Siege leader class Galaxy Optimus Prime was in comic art, and it seems like our first look at Siege Ratchet could be on some card art. Hasbro is trying to keep a standard image throughout its transformers media and thus the cards have had a lot of Siege themed designs in their art lately. In the latest card reveals, we have an image of Ratchet on the Take Cover card (shown below) and that image shows Ratchet in an identical body to Siege deluxe Ironhide. So this could be our first look at the deco for the upcoming Walgreens exclusive Ratchet. The art shows him with a black crest on a white helmet, which is Ratchet's standard colour scheme in the G1 cartoon.

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He appeared in issue 4 of the comic in that body.


Yeah, and while it's noticable enough to see that it is Siege Ironhides body, there are notable differences, especially in the shoulders. The comic version sports a red cross on the left shoulder, while this card version shows a red stripe on both. There is also some details on the shoulders that don't correspond with each. Plus, the card figure is in better lighting, which gives us more colors than the pale blue glow in the comic, plus we can see more in the card.


In the Past, Red Cross has given Ratchet heck over havibg Red Crosses on the shoulders of a "War Toy", zo for what we know this CPULD be a more accurate depiction of the toy anyway based on that
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SkyFire Prime » Mon May 27, 2019 11:57 am

Siege Springer is amazing, can't wait!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TAAO » Mon May 27, 2019 12:02 pm

Anyone else hoping that Brunt will be recolored into a Slammer for Metroplex? I know he wouldn't necessarily be the "perfect" Slammer, but I think he would be close enough to fill out Metroplex's minions. Maybe in a 2 pack with a redecoed Sideswipe as Scamper?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon May 27, 2019 12:16 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:I was hoping that this find was at a Walmart store. Well hopefully they will hit Walmart's soon. :PRAY: :VEHI:

It would be rather early for Walmart. The release date for these toys is July 2019.



True but considering how Galaxy OP and others hit shelves ahead of the scheduled release (I think) dates I thought I could be a bit hopeful. :VEHI:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Mon May 27, 2019 12:25 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I was hoping that this find was at a Walmart store. Well hopefully they will hit Walmart's soon. :PRAY: :VEHI:

It would be rather early for Walmart. The release date for these toys is July 2019.


And that's assuming they actually appear by July. Alot of stores end up not carrying new waves for at least a month, if not more.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon May 27, 2019 1:21 pm

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Flashwave wrote:In the Past, Red Cross has given Ratchet heck over havibg Red Crosses on the shoulders of a "War Toy", zo for what we know this CPULD be a more accurate depiction of the toy anyway based on that


That's weird, the more common version of the story I've heard is simply trademark infringement of the Red Cross logo... at least since the 2000's :???:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 27, 2019 2:09 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Flashwave wrote:In the Past, Red Cross has given Ratchet heck over havibg Red Crosses on the shoulders of a "War Toy", zo for what we know this CPULD be a more accurate depiction of the toy anyway based on that


That's weird, the more common version of the story I've heard is simply trademark infringement of the Red Cross logo... at least since the 2000's :???:


It's both. It's a trademark and hasbro doesnt have the right to use it for the reasons given above:

This logo is trademarked by the organizations, who enforce the use of their marks heavily these days. Modern Transformers toys can no longer sport the logo, as it could be considered an abuse of the symbol's meaning. The red cross symbol was in fact incorrectly used on all of the aforementioned toys to begin with, since the symbol represents humanitarian organizations that normally don't operate regular urban ambulances.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon May 27, 2019 6:36 pm

TAAO wrote:Anyone else hoping that Brunt will be recolored into a Slammer for Metroplex? I know he wouldn't necessarily be the "perfect" Slammer, but I think he would be close enough to fill out Metroplex's minions. Maybe in a 2 pack with a redecoed Sideswipe as Scamper?

A Slammer redeco would be close to the original comics inspiration.
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Wouldn't hold out hope for a two-pack with a Scamper based off Sideswipe, since we're already getting a two-pack with a black and red 'Swipe.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon May 27, 2019 7:06 pm

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TAAO wrote:Anyone else hoping that Brunt will be recolored into a Slammer for Metroplex? I know he wouldn't necessarily be the "perfect" Slammer, but I think he would be close enough to fill out Metroplex's minions. Maybe in a 2 pack with a redecoed Sideswipe as Scamper?

A Slammer redeco would be close to the original comics inspiration.
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Wouldn't hold out hope for a two-pack with a Scamper based off Sideswipe, since we're already getting a two-pack with a black and red 'Swipe.


We don't really need another Scamper, though. We have a perfectly good Scamper that comes with Titan Class Metroplex already, and it's a unique mold, not a retool of Sideswipe. Nothing says Scamper, Slammer, and Six Gun all need to be the same size class. Let's just be happy with a retool/repaint of Brunt into Slammer.
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