The Energon Pub

[steals_your_goats]

S64?! Why does Siege keep getting longerrrrrrrr? I'm not complaining, but now we not only have the mystery of S44-47, but also S52-63....the other three 35th figures are probably in there somewhere, so more like S52-60...I'm starting to be at a loss for what the missing stuff will be.

At least Bluestreak still looks great.

I'm speculating that Bluestreak and company (52-63...) will be part of WFC part 2.

His number is WFC-S64. Since we know part two is called Armageddon shouldn't it be WFC-A63? Also it straight up says siege on the front of the box.

[Nemesis Primal]

S64?! Why does Siege keep getting longerrrrrrrr? I'm not complaining, but now we not only have the mystery of S44-47, but also S52-63....the other three 35th figures are probably in there somewhere, so more like S52-60...I'm starting to be at a loss for what the missing stuff will be.

At least Bluestreak still looks great.

I'm speculating that Bluestreak and company (52-63...) will be part of WFC part 2.

As far as 44-47, who knows? There's precedent for mystery BMs and MMs that haven't been announced, but who knows?

While we're on the subject and I have my list out. I've read that Thundercracker's code is SEEKERS and the *Alpha Counter Strike Force is INTEL. Grain of salt with those though, so far it can't be verified.

I've also read people say the INTEL code, so I'm inclined to agree that's right.

I'm pretty certain that all these numbers do have to be part of Siege though, for two main reasons:
1. Bluestreak's box specifies 2019 in the 35th Anniversary logo, and we know that Siege carries through to the end of this year with Astrotrain and co.
2. I'm pretty sure the front of the box saying SIEGE and the numbering being WFC-S64 cements it as Siege product. The numbering for Lancer and them have GS01-06, GS being Generations Selects, and if the rumor of the next trilogy segment being called Armageddon is true, then numbering for that should start at WFC-A01.

EDIT: Ninja'd by steals_your_goats, he even made off with my goats when he did so.

[no-one]

S64?! Why does Siege keep getting longerrrrrrrr? I'm not complaining, but now we not only have the mystery of S44-47, but also S52-63....the other three 35th figures are probably in there somewhere, so more like S52-60...I'm starting to be at a loss for what the missing stuff will be.

At least Bluestreak still looks great.

I'm speculating that Bluestreak and company (52-63...) will be part of WFC part 2.

His number is WFC-S64. Since we know part two is called Armageddon shouldn't it be WFC-A63? Also it straight up says siege on the front of the box.

[Lunatic Prime]

Finally got Brunt today (I guess they finally ran out of Refraktor's to ship instead of him completely). He looks great but there are some things that bug me:
1. He's a bit small for how he looks like. I mean he looks like a big beefy brute. And with the head to body size ratio he should be BIG. When I saw the first pictures of him I thought he'd be about the size of SIEGE Ironhide.
2. He's pretty flimsy in alt mode. The joints and 5 mm connections hold well but there are just not enough connection points. Everything is moving. Especially his hip is still rotating everytime you touch him.

And here the hidden stuff:

And here some other UV-light images. NO, there are no filters (maybe some regular camera app AI) but the real thing in-hand still looks a bit different.

I think the last picture is closest to what he looks in-hand. In-hand he completely glows under UV-light (or at least everything that's purple what is almost the whole figure). His visor and yellow details, too.

[Skritz]

Btw I do think there is a good chance that Siege molds which haven't been redecoed will either be later in Siege, in the next part or part of SELECTS.

[FrankTheJohnson]

They look like some nice action figures. I just want to know what happened to the battle damage paint jobs?.

[G1OPT1MU5PR1M3]

I go for a more realistic view

I thought realism was a word we left at the door when entering this hobby

Well that's not a very realistic view point

Your original comment wasnt either,but I could tell you were searching for attention, so I gave it to you

[Skritz]

They look like some nice action figures. I just want to know what happened to the battle damage paint jobs?.

Maybe the 35th anniversary subline deliberately lack those?

[no-one]

They look like some nice action figures. I just want to know what happened to the battle damage paint jobs?.

Maybe the 35th anniversary subline deliberately lack those?

I certainly hope so. I've grown to accept it and even like it in some cases, but I won't miss it.

Speaking of, when I've skimmed reviews of Jetfire I couldn't tell if he has any or not. Has anyone confirmed or is it very minimal like Brunt?

[Lunatic Prime]

They look like some nice action figures. I just want to know what happened to the battle damage paint jobs?.

Maybe the 35th anniversary subline deliberately lack those?

As far as I know Optimus and Megatron will have a cellshaded colorscheme to look like coming directly out of the G1 cartoon. But no idea what about Soundblaster.

I certainly hope so. I've grown to accept it and even like it in some cases, but I won't miss it.

I like the concept but not the execution. I can do a way better job myself. But removing them if it's just too much like on Ironhide's feet isn't that easy.

Speaking of, when I've skimmed reviews of Jetfire I couldn't tell if he has any or not. Has anyone confirmed or is it very minimal like Brunt?

He has some light grey ones on his feet (and maybe shins) and some other parts (the jet's nosecone, I think). But they hardly stand out against the white plastic.

[Lunatic Prime]

Btw I do think there is a good chance that Siege molds which haven't been redecoed will either be later in Siege, in the next part or part of SELECTS.

Those darn recolors/-tools you never foresee. I finally decided this week to get Mirage and preordered him. The CG images looked pretty bad but the promotional in-hand pictures with the translucent plastic (I'm a sucker for that ) look pretty good. But as I've seen the digibash below earlier I'm thinking about cancelling my preorder. The thing is you never know when and if a retool/-color gets announced (or leaks ) and if it will be more your cup of tea. And if not how much you will have to pay for the former version of the mold at the aftermarket.

Found this on Twitter on Snakasblog it’s just a digibash but I dunno, if they did Crosshairs from Ironhide I could totally see this:

What's his name again?

[Sabrblade]

What's his name again?

Sureshot.

[Lunatic Prime]

What's his name again?

Sureshot.

Thanks

[Skritz]

I'm totally on board with Autobot Targetmasters just being retools if it just mean we can finally get those guys to go opposite to the TR trio.

[TF-fan kev777]

So with Bluestreak being WFC-S64, I have a few thoughts (read rampant speculation) on the missing numbers.

My guess is that most of the numbers above S51 will be either 35th anniversary ones or SDCC/online/store exclusives that weren't finalized before Hasbro put together the map with the codes for the regular Siege releases and the Amazon exclusives we know about so far. If that is correct, then 44-47 should be another wave of new micro and battle masters.

With Soundblaster coming in Siege, it should be almost certain that we will get at least 1 more pack of cassettes if not more. I think there is a decent chance of getting a pair in S44/S45 and the 35th anniversary releases, especially in the 35th anniversary. Why sell a Soundblaster with room for chest minions and not sell some minions at the same time?

So far the regular releases were numbered in increasing order for the same wave. If Bluestreak, Soundwave, Prime and Megs are all getting released together, then wouldn't it be possible that the voyagers are actually S65-S67?

So, assuming S44-47 are another wave of masters, then we have from S52 to S60 on the low end and S63 on the high end depending on where Soundblaster/Prime/Megs fall. That's 9-12 unknowns aside from S44-47.



Let the speculation begin!!!! Personally I think Sunstreaker and Wheeljack are good bets since they appeared on the posters/packaging already.

And of course now I'm going to run down to the basement and obsess over all the Siege packaging I have so far.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Meh on that Mirage retool idea. I'd rather Sureshot get his own mold, with fellow cockpit-chested vehicle-aft-for-legs baja buggy Joyride/Ranger as a moldmate.

Mirage, I would love to see redecoed into Crasher/Fracture.

If we're getting more Battlemasters, I hope to see Wingthing, Recoil, Haywire, Pinpointer, Caliburst-that's-actually-Caliburst, one that turns into a bow, a better attempt at Fracas, and maybe other Action Master Partners.

[Skritz]

Meh. I'd rather Sureshot get his own mold, with fellow cockpit-chested vehicle-aft-for-legs baja buggy Joyride/Ranger as a moldmate.

Mirage, I would love to see redecoed into Crasher/Fracture.

Ideally? Yes, I'd like a whole new baja buggy mold. On a practical level I can see a Mirage reshell.

[Stargrave]

Hmm all the Decepticon Targetmasters were retools of each other I mean they all wear the same pants, with Crosshairs I think it’s a sign of more to come. Probably no fresh molds for ‘em. Boo. Boo, I say,

[Rodimus Prime]

My thoughts are on what characters will we be getting in the subsequent lines, it seems Siege is coming out with all the high profile heavy hitters.

[Lunatic Prime]

Meh. I'd rather Sureshot get his own mold, with fellow cockpit-chested vehicle-aft-for-legs baja buggy Joyride/Ranger as a moldmate.

Mirage, I would love to see redecoed into Crasher/Fracture.

Ideally? Yes, I'd like a whole new baja buggy mold. On a practical level I can see a Mirage reshell.

It shouldn't be that difficult to retool Mirage. Just change the suspension. The front wheels are hanging out of the back of his legs anyway and the one of the rear wheels could store where Mirage's wheels store and the wheels just hang out of his back then. And as his torso is a fake part that is hanging out of tha back of the car mode anyway...

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Well, the fact that they could get more money out of doing a new baja buggy mold by also doing Ranger/Joyride with it gives me hope that they'll do it.

And meanwhile, a Fracture redeco of Mirage would be preferable to me as far as re-using his mold goes, because it would bolster the Decepticon ranks some more.

[Skritz]

My thoughts are on what characters will we be getting in the subsequent lines, it seems Siege is coming out with all the high profile heavy hitters.

There's still a few '84 and '85 Autobots who might show up, namely Sunstreaker, Wheeljack and Trailbreaker who definitely would be their own mold and each has at least one or two Retool options. There is also Skids, Inferno, Grapple and Blaster for Deluxe Autobots. On the Decepticon end you got all three Coneheads as well as all the Insecticons, regular and the 'deluxe' Insecticons who never showed up in the cartoon.

[Lunatic Prime]

My thoughts are on what characters will we be getting in the subsequent lines, it seems Siege is coming out with all the high profile heavy hitters.

Cybertron Hot Shot (SIEGE Hound retool) and maybe the rest of the Defense Squad.
And I'd like to see some more Cybertron characters like Crumplezone for example. And the Seeker mold of this line re-imagined and colored into the rest of the Seekers

[william-james88]

But we are alteasy getting the tetra jet siege mold as a red redeco

[Stargrave]

My thoughts are on what characters will we be getting in the subsequent lines, it seems Siege is coming out with all the high profile heavy hitters.

There's still a few '84 and '85 Autobots who might show up, namely Sunstreaker, Wheeljack and Trailbreaker who definitely would be their own mold and each has at least one or two Retool options. There is also Skids, Inferno, Grapple and Blaster for Deluxe Autobots. On the Decepticon end you got all three Coneheads as well as all the Insecticons, regular and the 'deluxe' Insecticons who never showed up in the cartoon.

Oooo Skids! Yer killin’ me I’d love that!