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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sat May 19, 2018 10:51 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Leader Scorponok? Come on, man. You can't make the BIGGEST G1 :CON: toy into a leader. Titan or bust.
A lot of people really like Comics Scorponok better than Cartoon Scorponok.

I want both. :)

I'd also rather see the existing combiners upped to Titan Class rather than Devastator and Predaking shrunk down. We're never getting MP combiners so may as well take advantage of having a design team that's so fixated on G1 accuracy in Generations to get a good MP placeholder (like the UW Constructicons are for me). Probably never happen, but I can dream.

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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun May 20, 2018 12:14 am

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Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Leader Scorponok? Come on, man. You can't make the BIGGEST G1 :CON: toy into a leader. Titan or bust.
A lot of people really like Comics Scorponok better than Cartoon Scorponok.

I want both. :)

I'd also rather see the existing combiners upped to Titan Class rather than Devastator and Predaking shrunk down. We're never getting MP combiners so may as well take advantage of having a design team that's so fixated on G1 accuracy in Generations to get a good MP placeholder (like the UW Constructicons are for me). Probably never happen, but I can dream.

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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun May 20, 2018 1:18 am

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Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Leader Scorponok? Come on, man. You can't make the BIGGEST G1 :CON: toy into a leader. Titan or bust.
A lot of people really like Comics Scorponok better than Cartoon Scorponok.

I want both. :)

I'd also rather see the existing combiners upped to Titan Class rather than Devastator and Predaking shrunk down. We're never getting MP combiners so may as well take advantage of having a design team that's so fixated on G1 accuracy in Generations to get a good MP placeholder (like the UW Constructicons are for me). Probably never happen, but I can dream.

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That would be really expensive (though it would give the titan class a long list of possible releases...) but wouldn't the scale be off for mp?
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby frogbat » Sun May 20, 2018 2:25 am

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My main priorities would be figures that haven’t been properly dealt with yet... remaining headmasters... targetmasters... powermasters... maybe a couple of the mini bots... crosshairs from kup. And seeing how they mentioned cybertron based figures would be a driving theme, a lot of those figures make sense in that regards

Omega supreme should be an in between leader and titan figure if not a titan to scale with devastaor. At this point, skorponok should scale with fortress Maximus and tripticon..

To go back and revisit chug characters that need a fresh figure, ratchet and iron hide definitely top that list, grapple and inferno would be nice (following the current trend of staying closer to the original toys. Though the recent combiner inferno makes me doubt that will happen any time soon.

But yeah let’s brace another prime and bumblebee and hot rod...
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 am

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frogbat wrote:But yeah let’s brace another prime and bumblebee and hot rod...


Actually, I'd really like a Cybertronian Bee, Wheeljack, and the seekers based on the G1 cartoon. Official ones, not 3P.

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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun May 20, 2018 3:02 am

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I think the seekers will be a definite though I would hate to guess a size class for them. Bee and prime will be there as will megs because they are seen as essential to the brand
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Latebrus-K » Sun May 20, 2018 11:59 am

How about an "evolution Titan class" Scorponok, where a leader class Scorponok based on his Lost Light design forms the shoulders and chest of a full Titan, based on the G1 Toy? If possible, the titan's head would turn into fast track.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun May 20, 2018 7:08 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
frogbat wrote:But yeah let’s brace another prime and bumblebee and hot rod...


Actually, I'd really like a Cybertronian Bee, Wheeljack, and the seekers based on the G1 cartoon. Official ones, not 3P.


most definitely i always wanted the pyramid seekers although the war within versions were cool too
and the cybertron starscream was a nice tribute it lacked the G1 style of the cartoon
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 20, 2018 7:26 pm

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I personally really want a Titan or Leader Tidal Wave, and a Unicron, preferably based on the Alex Milne design for IDW.

The Autobot targetmasters are begging to be done, as is Flywheels.

And I really want a Star Saber, Deathsaurus, and Road Caesar.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 20, 2018 8:11 pm

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Leader Thunderwing anyone? Especially if it's done with the PotP "evolution" gimmick.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sun May 20, 2018 8:48 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Emerje wrote:I'd also rather see the existing combiners upped to Titan Class rather than Devastator and Predaking shrunk down. We're never getting MP combiners so may as well take advantage of having a design team that's so fixated on G1 accuracy in Generations to get a good MP placeholder (like the UW Constructicons are for me). Probably never happen, but I can dream.

Emerje

That would be really expensive (though it would give the titan class a long list of possible releases...) but wouldn't the scale be off for mp?

I wouldn't expect them all at once, more like something to do with Titan Class when they run out of giant characters to make.

Scale with MP would be terrible in alt mode, but bot mode and combined mode would scale well. The MP Autobot cars are basically Voyager size, as are the Titan Constructicons (save for Longhaul) and I would think a five member team's limb members would also be around Voyager size. Likewise I would think the leaders/torsos would probably be around the same size as MP Starscream so it works pretty nicely.

At the same time a Titan Omega Supreme should also look really good with both MPs and Generations in bot mode.

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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Skritz » Sun May 20, 2018 9:41 pm

Unfortunately, odds are we'll only see about one or two of those on the wishlist and the rest will be cybertronian modes of the '84 Autobots and some Decepticons. With any luck, we'll see some interesting things with retooling/reshelling but my I'd trying to keep my expectations low. >:oP
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Sun May 20, 2018 10:06 pm

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Skritz wrote:Unfortunately, odds are we'll only see about one or two of those on the wishlist and the rest will be cybertronian modes of the '84 Autobots and some Decepticons. With any luck, we'll see some interesting things with retooling/reshelling but my I'd trying to keep my expectations low. >:oP


This is my fear for the line.

Cybertronian alt modes is the perfect time to dip into other corners of the franchise. Bring things back to being Generations instead of another retread of the first.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Skritz » Mon May 21, 2018 12:18 am

I'm hoping we get at least a 50/50 mix of '84 rethread and their retool/reshell into some interesting late G1 stuff, such as maybe turning the mandatory Optimus of the line into, say, Thunderclash. That would be the best case scenario.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Albatross250 » Mon May 21, 2018 3:10 am

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Well at least in the Headmasters, Megazarak (Scorponok) is a scorpion and can fly
All i just wanted an updated of him being a Titan Class.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby frogbat » Mon May 21, 2018 4:27 am

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just throwing in another vote for flywheels - I hate having half a set or a counterpart missing..
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon May 21, 2018 6:00 am

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I'd be surprised if we didn't get flywheels in the next couple of years.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon May 21, 2018 11:00 am

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I'm pretty sure we will see the hinted at Thunderwing out of TR skyshadow, probably with little to no retooling. Wouldn't mind seeing a new Raiden at titan class scale seeing as the autobots havent had a Titan class combiner yet.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Munkky » Mon May 21, 2018 2:22 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:I'm pretty sure we will see the hinted at Thunderwing out of TR skyshadow, probably with little to no retooling. Wouldn't mind seeing a new Raiden at titan class scale seeing as the autobots havent had a Titan class combiner yet.


I think Raiden is a little bit too obscure for Generations. I could maybe see it if IDW had reinvented Raiden like they did with Overlord and Star Saber, but otherwise I can only see a Generations Raiden happening when John Warden and co are left frantically scraping at the very bottom of the late G1 barrel as they try desperately to avoid making any more toys of Beast Wars characters.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon May 21, 2018 2:58 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:I'm pretty sure we will see the hinted at Thunderwing out of TR skyshadow, probably with little to no retooling. Wouldn't mind seeing a new Raiden at titan class scale seeing as the autobots havent had a Titan class combiner yet.


I think Raiden is a little bit too obscure for Generations. I could maybe see it if IDW had reinvented Raiden like they did with Overlord, Star Saber and Deathsaurus, but otherwise I can only see a Generations Raiden happening when John Warden and co are left frantically scraping at the very bottom of the late G1 barrel as they try desperately to avoid making any more toys of Beast Wars characters.


That, and I'm not sure how a combiner of trains is going to work with a more Cybertronian aesthetic. It definitely wouldn't be the Raiden fans would want. I just want SDCC to happen soon so we at least get an idea of what Hasbro is doing with "War for Cybertron" beyond making Mirage (again) and Impactor.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 21, 2018 3:13 pm

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Munkky wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm pretty sure we will see the hinted at Thunderwing out of TR skyshadow, probably with little to no retooling. Wouldn't mind seeing a new Raiden at titan class scale seeing as the autobots havent had a Titan class combiner yet.


I think Raiden is a little bit too obscure for Generations. I could maybe see it if IDW had reinvented Raiden like they did with Overlord and Star Saber, but otherwise I can only see a Generations Raiden happening when John Warden and co are left frantically scraping at the very bottom of the late G1 barrel as they try desperately to avoid making any more toys of Beast Wars characters.
Or if the brand unification hadn't come about and Takara had decided to do Raiden by themselves for their market.

But either way, I agree with the notion that a new Raiden should be a Titan class the size of Devastator and Predaking for three reasons:
  • He and Devastator are the same kind of six-member combiner from back in their Diaclone days,
  • Devastator and Predaking are canonically Raiden's main rivals,
  • And finally, I recently discovered that, according to this scale chart, Raiden's animation model from The Headmasters cartoon is actually larger than the average combiner size, particularly larger than both the 5-member Scramble City combiners and the likes of God Ginrai, Overlord, BlackZarak, Grand Maximus, King Star Saber, Victory Leo, Road Caesar, Landcross, Deathsaurus, Dinoking and Dai Atlas. The only ones who come close to his height are Victory Saber and Liokaiser (who just barely reach the same height as Raiden) and Galaxy Shuttle (who is about two heads taller than Raiden).
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby DaXtraLargeRobot » Tue May 22, 2018 5:26 pm

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I personally want to see a new Ultra Magnus and Galvatron. If they do more rival pairings like they did with the vote a while back, they would be the first pairing I want to see, especially since their rivalry hasn't been touched upon in media since Regeneration One. Also, this is quite out there and I seriously doubt it will happen, but since the line is called War For Cybertron, even though it has no connection to the game, wouldn't it be cool to see a new voyager Foc styled Onslaught that could actually combine with the origin Foc Combaticons. The original was the worst figure of the set in my opinion and the Military Titans figure is really hard to find.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Skritz » Tue May 22, 2018 9:01 pm

Munkky wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm pretty sure we will see the hinted at Thunderwing out of TR skyshadow, probably with little to no retooling. Wouldn't mind seeing a new Raiden at titan class scale seeing as the autobots havent had a Titan class combiner yet.


I think Raiden is a little bit too obscure for Generations. I could maybe see it if IDW had reinvented Raiden like they did with Overlord and Star Saber, but otherwise I can only see a Generations Raiden happening when John Warden and co are left frantically scraping at the very bottom of the late G1 barrel as they try desperately to avoid making any more toys of Beast Wars characters.


They'll just make a line entirely made of Bumblebees. We'll see the full Actionmaster roster before we ever seen a new toy for BW Megatron that isn't Botcon. :lol:
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 22, 2018 9:29 pm

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Skritz wrote:
Munkky wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm pretty sure we will see the hinted at Thunderwing out of TR skyshadow, probably with little to no retooling. Wouldn't mind seeing a new Raiden at titan class scale seeing as the autobots havent had a Titan class combiner yet.


I think Raiden is a little bit too obscure for Generations. I could maybe see it if IDW had reinvented Raiden like they did with Overlord and Star Saber, but otherwise I can only see a Generations Raiden happening when John Warden and co are left frantically scraping at the very bottom of the late G1 barrel as they try desperately to avoid making any more toys of Beast Wars characters.


They'll just make a line entirely made of Bumblebees. We'll see the full Actionmaster roster before we ever seen a new toy for BW Megatron that isn't Botcon. :lol:
Especially sad-but-true considering BotCon is no more. :-(

Oh well, at least the final BotCon gave us the long-desired TM3 version of BW Megatron, and we do have the MP to look forward to.
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Re: 2019 Generations Line: War for Cybertron Part 1 Discussion

Postby Skritz » Wed May 23, 2018 12:22 pm

I'd sell a few organs to get a Botcon TM3 Megatron but even that might not be enough. :(
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