The Energon Pub

[dinogeist]

Lets all,guess,speculate or dream what'll happen in Season 2 of the TF Prime cartoon series.


This thread has season 1 TF prime cartoon spoliers. so don't read if you don't want to get spolied.

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DREAM:
I'm kinda hoping with Optimus gone for a while. The autobots find another high ranking replacement leader to replace optimus prime till he returns. I suspose it would be cool to have Rodimus Prime as the temporary leader till optimus prime returns. Ultra magnus or sentinel prime would be other great choices for temporary leaders. I'd love to buy a TF Prime Rodimus Prime leader sized toy that looks like the titanium 6 inch rodimus prime toy but only bigger in the 9.5 inch robot size scale.

GUESS:
I'm gonna guess that Optimus Prime will get his memory back probably,his memory might be on the "key to vector sigma" thing he gave jack.

SPECULATE:
Optimus Prime will stay a decepticon for at least 10+episodes in season 2. while he's a decepticon,his views will change. then in beastmachines Vechicon fashion,he'll return to being a autobot. but after his return he'll be tormented by memories of what he's done while he was a decepticon.

DREAM: I want their to be a huge space battle in space over the planet earth in season 2. one ship would belong to the Dyno-bots,while the other ship belongs to the 1986 predacons. both ships fire on each other numerous times get heavy battle damage & chrash into the earth. the 1986 preacons crash into a African jungle. The Dyno-bots ship chrash into a musueem in the dinosaurs skeleton exibit. the preacons scan jungle modes from ther africa jungle. the dyno-bots scan dinosaur modes from the musueem. the predacons combine to form a gestalt preadking. the dinobots form a gestalt combiner dinoking. both teams meet up with the autobots & decepticons but have their seperate bases & get used as re-inforcements & don't become core characters. I wanna see the predacons limbs be deluxe sized toys. while razorclaw is a voyager sized toy. i wanna see the dinobots limbs be deluxe sized toys. while grimlock is a voyager sized toy.

SPECULATE:
Season 2 of the TF Prime cartoon looks like it's going to leave earth & head for space travel & space adventures. during these adventures both the autobots & decepticons add more members to their teams. in the spirit of the cybertron cartoon series,the three human kids will join the autobots in their space travels/adventures. while their in space both teams will mine nearby planets & asteroids for energon. at some point they'll visit cybertron near the end of season 2. megatron will try to ressurect his zombie army. while optimus travels to cybertron's planet core,meets vector sigma or primus again & is given his memory back. perhaps the autobots will find a few damaged off-line autobots on cybertron,repair them & they'll join the autobot team.

GUESS:
In season 2,Starscream has either joined Silas or starscream is being forced & controlled by silas to do his bidding. I think the whole starscream & silas partnership will have a very season 1 1984 G-1 Starscream & DR Arkvil feel to it. I can evnvision Silas getting badly damaged & becoming a Cyborg using some cyertronian technology to try to fight the transformers.

SPECULATE:
While optimus prime is a decepticon for some episodes in season 2. some of optimus prime's goodness will influence megatron to change his mind about his goals & plans.

DREAM:
Vector sigma or Prime,Will be shown in more flash backs & we'll get better clearer looks at his pre original robot form. primus will awaken on cybertron while the transformers are visiting it in season 2. Hopefully all this primus in season 2 gets us a primus toy in the supreme size.

GUESS:
One of the planets the transformers visit will be junkion & quintessa.
the quintessons will have a origin similar to their G-1 FFOD origin.

SPECULATE:
TF Prime bumblebee will get his voice repaired by primus while on cybertron & he'll talk in words. Soundwave will just start talking in non-parot form as he's always had the ability but chose not to.

[Burn]

**** gets blown up.

Bumblebee makes a sad face.

Kids make a sad face.

Bulkhead learns another aspect of human pop culture.

And other stuff which will hopefully be awesome enough to negate the sad faces and pop culture references.

[Rodimus Prime]

It won't be as awesome as Animated was.

Maybe the way the story is now, Orion Pax's story will be told in real time, as Megatron takes Optimus down the same journey he did before, with the exception that he makes sure Prime stays allied to him this time. Cue the Autobots with a rescue.

[cotss2012]

Spoiler: Megatron will craft a Decepticon Matrix of Leadership out of Dark Energon and hand it over to Orion Pax, changing him into Nemesis Prime. Knockout and Starscream will confess their gay love for each other and elope. Jack will get a human girlfriend whom Arcee kills in a jealous rage. At the end of the season, Optimus will die, but he'll be brought back in the first few episodes of Season 3.

It won't be as awesome as Animated was.

Animated, while packed with loving tributes to G1 (and even a nod to Beast Wars), was far from "awesome". Too many episodes were not about Autobots vs. Decepticons, but about Autobots vs. human supervillains who would be too lame and ridiculous for even the Batman TV show with Adam West.

[5150 Cruiser]

Spoiler: Megatron will craft a Decepticon Matrix of Leadership out of Dark Energon and hand it over to Orion Pax, changing him into Nemesis Prime.

I ever since we saw the Preview with Optimus/Orion Pax with a Decepticon symbol, i've had a strong feeling that we'll see Optimus turned into Nemisis Prime. Your idea on how he turns is a good one.

For new Autobots, I'd like to see Sentinel Prime and Ultra Magnus come in. Sentinel would come back as Leader in Optimus's absence, but his methoeds of leading are completely different than what our current Autobot team are used too. Sentinel would be more like how Ratchet was when he gave himself synthetic energon. Hot headed, and ruthless. Ultra Magnus would kind of come in and save the day, confront Nemisis prime and remind him who he really is.

[dinogeist]

. Knockout and Starscream will confess their gay love for each other and elope.

Can a moderator or admin please email this guy a set of board rules. because making fun of same sex relationships is not a acceptable pratice here on these forums.

[Kiyza]

. Knockout and Starscream will confess their gay love for each other and elope.

Can a moderator or admin please email this guy a set of board rules. because making fun of same sex relationships is not a acceptable pratice here on these forums.

I don't think he's making fun of same sex relationships here so much as he's poking fun at yaoi fangirls who enjoy pairing these two together. As someone who occasionally dabbles in fanfiction and the like, I can tell that it's not an uncommon pairing. If you're unsure of what yaoi is... don't look it up, for your sanity. I know there's some weird stuff out there, and I'm sure it just gets worse when it involves giant robots.

[cotss2012]

I don't think he's making fun of same sex relationships here so much as he's poking fun at yaoi fangirls who enjoy pairing these two together.

Judging by your motto and affinity for Starscream, I have to ask... are you one of them?

[Kiyza]

I don't think he's making fun of same sex relationships here so much as he's poking fun at yaoi fangirls who enjoy pairing these two together.

Judging by your motto and affinity for Starscream, I have to ask... are you one of them?

Not really. I have a few friends here and there who are into it, so I'm often dragged along for the ride.

[cotss2012]

Are any of them single?

[Burn]

cotss2012 ...
1 - Please try to keep the thread on topic.
2 - Remove the profanity from your signature.

[Lawman]

My guess is that the autobot team and the decepticon team will be getting some new "blood"(Decepticons got a headstart with "Orion Pax").

With Optimus on the Decepticons side the Autobots will be seeing setback after setback. Remember how well Optimus and Megatron fought together while in Unicron? Most likely we will be seeing more of their incredible teamwork in the next season, as Decepticons. WIll optimus return to the Autobots? i think so and i believe Soundwave will have a hand in it.

The Autobots will be searching for a way to return Optimus Primes memory. The eazy/lazy way it could happen is optimus just slowly starts to remember on his own as he participates with Megatron in Decepticon activities. What I hope they do is something different and along the following lines.

Autobots realize that the only way to get Optimus back is to return to Cybertron and enlist the aid of Vector Sigma. The "being" who gives life or spark to all Cybertronians. Or From Primus who 1st gave Optimus the matrix of leadership. So this would entail glorious space battles, even planet hoping, and finding other Autobots/Decepticons along the way.

The only trouble i see happening is getting Jacks, Miko's, and Raf's Parents to allow the space journey. We all saw how Jack's mom freaked when Raf was poisoned by dark energon. Let her son wonder off into space with a bunch of killer robots, HA! fat chance. But! it could happen this way.

Remember Optimus Prime gave Jack the Key to Vector Sigma. The Key(according to Transformers Lore) besides being the key to start Vector Sigma, can also turn Organic matter into techno matter. Jack or perhaps all three of them could "Accidently" activate the key and turn themselfs into techno matter "(a mechanical and metal facsimile of itself)" . The only way to return the kids back to organic matter and to restore Optimus Primes memory would be to return to Cybertron.

Turning themselfs into Techno Matter could open the story in lots of different ways, amoung other things, remember that Raf had Dark Energon running in his veins before.

Anyway these are somethings that i think would be great to explore in Transformers Prime.

[dinogeist]

My guess is that the autobot team and the decepticon team will be getting some new "blood"(Decepticons got a headstart with "Orion Pax").

With Optimus on the Decepticons side the Autobots will be seeing setback after setback. Remember how well Optimus and Megatron fought together while in Unicron? Most likely we will be seeing more of their incredible teamwork in the next season, as Decepticons. WIll optimus return to the Autobots? i think so and i believe Soundwave will have a hand in it.

The Autobots will be searching for a way to return Optimus Primes memory. The eazy/lazy way it could happen is optimus just slowly starts to remember on his own as he participates with Megatron in Decepticon activities. What I hope they do is something different and along the following lines.

Autobots realize that the only way to get Optimus back is to return to Cybertron and enlist the aid of Vector Sigma. The "being" who gives life or spark to all Cybertronians. Or From Primus who 1st gave Optimus the matrix of leadership. So this would entail glorious space battles, even planet hoping, and finding other Autobots/Decepticons along the way.

The only trouble i see happening is getting Jacks, Miko's, and Raf's Parents to allow the space journey. We all saw how Jack's mom freaked when Raf was poisoned by dark energon. Let her son wonder off into space with a bunch of killer robots, HA! fat chance. But! it could happen this way.

Remember Optimus Prime gave Jack the Key to Vector Sigma. The Key(according to Transformers Lore) besides being the key to start Vector Sigma, can also turn Organic matter into techno matter. Jack or perhaps all three of them could "Accidently" activate the key and turn themselfs into techno matter "(a mechanical and metal facsimile of itself)" . The only way to return the kids back to organic matter and to restore Optimus Primes memory would be to return to Cybertron.

Turning themselfs into Techno Matter could open the story in lots of different ways, amoung other things, remember that Raf had Dark Energon running in his veins before.

Anyway these are somethings that i think would be great to explore in Transformers Prime.

I agree with some of the stuff you wrote.

Theirs definately gonna be a few episodes where the autobots spend some time trying ways to gets optimus prime's memory back. the autobots might return to the innards of unicron for optimus memory,they might look into the key for vector sigma that optimus gave jack for prime's memories,maybe they'll visit cybertron & ask vector prime or primes for optimus's memories. I'M FASCINATED HOW OPTIMUS WILL GET HIS MEMORIES BACK. hopefully they don't do the lame-o route of temporary memory loss/amnesia.

My guess is they'll be a newer never before seen gigantic autobot leading the autobots in optimus prime's absense. because it doesn't look like any of the season one autobots are competent,wise or strong enough to go head to toe with megatron in a one on one hand combat fight. HOPEFULLY RODIMUS PRIME OR STARSABRE OR DIATULAS or alpha trion/vector prime temporary fills in for optimus as the autobot temp leader till optimus returns.

My guess is season 2 of TF Prime will be centered around space travel,looking for artifacts in space/planets. megatron heading to cybertron with his decepticons to raise his zombie army of cybertronians using all the dark energon blood he stole from unicron from the volcano. I can see the kids tagging along for the ride thru space like the cybertron kids went into space.

My guess is season 3 of TF Prime's cartoon series features primus & his back story. maybe primus transforming back & forth from robot to planet form like he did in the cybertron cartoon series. season 3 might have the quintessons,the vok,the swarm,the hub & jhiaxus. the possibilites are endless.

[cotss2012]

Ratchet and Arcee are easily competent enough to take Prime's place.

We'll see someone else take command anyway, of course (my money is on Ultra Magnus), but still...

[dinogeist]

Ratchet and Arcee are easily competent enough to take Prime's place.

We'll see someone else take command anyway, of course (my money is on Ultra Magnus), but still...

Ratchet specializes in repair/medical. he lacks the strenght & fighting skills/experience needed to fight the really powerful transformers like megatron.

Arcee,is a scout,who specializes in spy type recon missions. arcee lacks the strenght to fight the really powerful tranformers like megatron. arcee has no commander type wisdom nor experience. arcee is not a top rank commander officer. at best arcee has a lieutentant rank.

I don't think they'll use ultra magnus again as they just used him in the previous Transformers cartoon called Animated.

[Lawman]

No love for the bee-man? lol i think Bumble bee could step up to lead, he's always been Optimus's understudy

[dinogeist]

No love for the bee-man? lol i think Bumble bee could step up to lead, he's always been Optimus's understudy

TF Prime bumblebee can't talk in words. all he does is make funny noises & beeps to express what he's trying to say. it's kinda hard to become the autobot leader & lead everyone if no one can understand your orders/commands.

At the very least movie verse bumblebee was a bit more smarter & creative by using his radio in his car to pick up random sayings/music on the radio to express what he was trying to say.

[cotss2012]

Ratchet specializes in repair/medical. he lacks the strenght & fighting skills/experience needed to fight the really powerful transformers like megatron.

Arcee,is a scout,who specializes in spy type recon missions. arcee lacks the strenght to fight the really powerful tranformers like megatron.

Command has nothing to do with physical strength. Also, Ratchet can really open up a can of whoopass when he feels like it. Just give him some synthetic energon and watch him go

[Rodimus Prime]

Command has nothing to do with physical strength. Also, Ratchet can really open up a can of whoopass when he feels like it.

One of the few things I agree with you in this thread.

[dinogeist]

Command has nothing to do with physical strength. Also, Ratchet can really open up a can of whoopass when he feels like it.

One of the few things I agree with you in this thread.

Part of being the autobot supreme faction leader. is being able to fight equally in combat against the decepticon supreme faction leader. ratchet is weak against megatron. arcee is weak against megatron. bulkhead is the second strongest next to optimus in TF Prime's Cartoon series, but bulkhead he's a brain cel over a drone.

[cotss2012]

Part of being the autobot supreme faction leader. is being able to fight equally in combat against the decepticon supreme faction leader.

That's like saying that FDR shouldn't have been commander-in-chief because he wouldn't have been able to take Hitler in a fist fight.

[Rodimus Prime]

Part of being the autobot supreme faction leader. is being able to fight equally in combat against the decepticon supreme faction leader.

That's like saying that FDR shouldn't have been commander-in-chief because he wouldn't have been able to take Hitler in a fist fight.

Right. A leader doesn't have to be equal in every aspect. Just as long as the assets s/he has at his/her disposal are used effectively. whether it be personal traits or others such as military or financial. This is just general terms, as Transformers don't have to worry about money, but otherwise it's pretty much applicable.

As for the specific situation, Ratchet against Megatron, I will admit that in a physical confrontation Megatron would probably obliterate Ratchet. But only if Ratchet doesn't outsmart him. He did it in G1, as well as showed Megatron up in courage. Ironically, they became bonded together. I liked Animated, but I haven't seen it in about a year so I can't remember if they had a confrontation there. As for Prime, we'll have to see. Overall, I think that in Optimus's absence, Arcee is actually the best leader, because Ratchet is hindered by his dislike for humans and Earth. That can be a disadvantage.

[cotss2012]

On the contrary; Arcee is too emotionally invested in Jack, which has proven to be a liability. Ratchet is more objective; more willing to sacrifice a pawn to win the game.

You know, when he's not blitzed out of his gourd on synthetic energon...

[Rodimus Prime]

On the contrary; Arcee is too emotionally invested in Jack, which has proven to be a liability. Ratchet is more objective; more willing to sacrifice a pawn to win the game.

Good point. F**k humans.

[dinogeist]

Part of being the autobot supreme faction leader. is being able to fight equally in combat against the decepticon supreme faction leader.

That's like saying that FDR shouldn't have been commander-in-chief because he wouldn't have been able to take Hitler in a fist fight.

I was clearly referring to tranformers robots situations & not human to human situations.

Since the transformers robots have been locked in wars that lasted for millions of years. their fighters & warriors. with such a fierce war going on,their needs to be a autobot leader who's strong enought to fight the decepticon leader in hand to hand combat.