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News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:57 am

I'm kind of torn here. I really wanted Leader Brawl when he was first released and got him weeks ago before a lot of people had gotten him and had a chance to comment. Well mine's still in the box-haven't had time to unpack him yet-and I'm thinking seriously about taking him back now. There's just been so much negative feedback about him that I just feel like I'm going to be disappointed and frustrated when I unpack him. Plus, with all of the Leader Brawls out there, I can’t believe that there’s not going to be some point where he’s a big time shelf warmer and goes on sale. I’d feel better about owning him for 20-30 dollars versus 40. But my biggest argument is that I’m leaning towards returning him and getting a Leader Prime instead. He just seems to be the more popular choice as far as the Leaders are concerned. I know this is all subjective so people will have differing opinions but what is the general feeling here about Leader Prime versus Leader Brawl? If you could only own one, which would you choose?

by **Bumblebee-otch** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:00 pm

get optimus if you can. there are a lot less out there than brawls. (i have OP, and he is AWESOME)

by **Ultra Prime** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:06 pm

Prime hands down.

I just recently acquired Leader Class Brawl and am using as my movie Megatron. He's a great figure and improvement to the deluxe version. But Prime is just a much more snazzier TF compared to Brawl.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:07 pm

IMO, not even close...Prime all the way. I was kinda disappointed with Brawl after seeing a lot of reviews saying he was nearly as good as Prime, but I guess either way, I've yet to see a review actually say Brawl is better.

News Credits: 1 · by **Pontimax 01** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:20 pm

Prime's better. The only reason I like my leader Brawl is because he stands head to head with Prime. I don't think he's an astounding figure, either in his mold or his quality.

But at one point I had 4 leader Primes, and they were all quality products.

by **Saberwing** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:34 pm

Brawl is one of the best transformers ever - how the hell are people unhappy with him???

I have two on my desk, dont regret buying either one for a second

News Credits: 1 · by **Bonecrusher27** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:41 pm

Bikertrashwolf has a new review out on him on Youtube. Initially I was considering if I should buy another one to take out of box. After watching that review I am for sure.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:43 pm

Brawl is great. Prime is great. Really.. it's whichever one your prefer. Just because someone doesn't like a figure, doesn't mean you will not like it as well.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:44 pm

I havnt seen Brawl in the flesh yet, but Im not impressed wit hthe fact that he seems to have some compromises that the smaller deluxe didnt seem to need.

Prime on the other hand is fantastic.

News Credits: 4 · by **tom brokaw** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:48 pm

imo prime is better. i returned my leader brawl today because he broke

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by **BLACKOUT2007** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:14 pm

Saberwing wrote:Brawl is one of the best transformers ever - how the hell are people unhappy with him???

Diddo. Brawls great.
I'm not going for Prime cause he's gonna cost me at least $55

by **Meatwad1989** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:19 pm

You should get Prime much better figure than Leader Brawl, I own both. Each cost me about 27.00 each.. So if you can find them for that price get both.. But Prime all the way, if you cant..

by **JFGuy4VT58** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:19 pm

i went to target tonight and they had about 4 leader brawls and 1 megatron. the first and last optimus i saw was mine that i picked up at the same target a week or two back. That same day my brother got brawl, between the two i would still pick optimus but brawl is still an amazing figure. so if you can choose and can only get one, id go with optimus and wait for brawl, he'll be around for a while i'm thinking.

by **jaws** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:23 pm

Leader Prime definitely; Brawl was too minor of a character to warrant a Leader Class. BTW, deluxe Brawl isn't that bad of a figure.

I might change my opinion on Leader Brawl if I ever see him and can get on sale.

by **BLACKOUT2007** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:38 pm

jaws wrote:Leader Prime definitely; Brawl was too minor of a character to warrant a Leader Class. BTW, deluxe Brawl isn't that bad of a figure.

Mabey they made a leader version of Brawl to make up for his lack of exposure in the movie. :-?

"Such a cool character, lets make a big ass version of him!"

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:59 pm

I've just watched several youtube clips of his transformation. The transformation doesn't seem that bad but I just think I keep getting hung up on his lower half. I really dislike that his feet are fixed limiting posability and that his legs have so much kibble on the backs. I also really wish they had done more to incorporate the big gun on his arm although the cannons look ok too. Bottom line, right now I'm leaning towards returning him, waiting for Nightwatch Prime to be released, and then seeing it I can't pick LB up on sale when they're overstocked and not moving. As of yesterday, the TRU I go to near the office has had the same 10 or so Leader Brawls for weeks. At least they have Ultimate BB to keep them company.

by **mpchi** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:07 pm

Leader Brawl is a keeper man. Unless your budget is so tight that you can only have one, then pick Prime over him. But if you even remotely thinking picking him up again later, might as well keep him and start saving money on Prime. You never know if you'll see Brawl again at the same or lower price.

As long as you are not the unlucky few to have a defective Brawl or transform him incorrectly, he is a darn good TF toy. I rated it only slightly inferior to Movie Leader Prime, but not by much. Never understand why some people complain about it. Stands, poses and transforms rock solid. Even like it more than some of my BTs, regardless I am a diecast fiend.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:26 pm

mpchi wrote:Leader Brawl is a keeper man. Unless your budget is so tight that you can only have one, then pick Prime over him. But if you even remotely thinking picking him up again later, might as well keep him and start saving money on Prime. You never know if you'll see Brawl again at the same or lower price.

As long as you are not the unlucky few to have a defective Brawl or transform him incorrectly, he is a darn good TF toy. I rated it only slightly inferior to Movie Leader Prime, but not by much. Never understand why some people complain about it. Stands, poses and transforms rock solid. Even like it more than some of my BTs, regardless I am a diecast fiend.

Well, if I do keep him, I have to try and make him look as cool as yours. I have to tools now for the wash, I just need to practice on something and then go for it.

by **Leader_One** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:28 am

Optimus Prime Leader Class. This bot is awesome. Could be the Best Version Of Prime & par with MP Prime. 39.99 is asking to little. If you want brawl, get deluxe version. Return the toy.

by **olokin** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:28 am

You can't go wrong with Optimus

by **Malikon** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:36 am

I have both and Primes def my fav between the 2.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:22 am

Right now, get Leader Class Prime.
The Prime repaint *is* coming, but in comparison to the original (in-movie)....it's a crapfest.
The original Prime might not even see a re-release.

Brawl's an excellent figure, and well worth the $40.00, but if you have a chance to get Prime before it's impossible (or far too expensive later on)...get him now.

Brawl will be here for a while. No worries.

And the negatives of Brawl are far outweighed by his incredible wow factor, overall.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:07 pm

OK, so here's the bottom line. I checked the mail today and got yet another refund/dividend check from State Farm. Bottom line is that the check for 48 bucks shifted the tide... so, I bought Leader Prime today. Still, thinking about returning Leader Brawl but will probably keep both. Going to head upstairs and open Prime now.

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts and feedback. And thanks to State Farm for the unexpected $.

Oh, and thanks to the Dawgs for beating Alabama tonight. Sorry, had to get the UGA shot in there.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:08 pm

mpchi wrote:Leader Brawl is a keeper man. Unless your budget is so tight that you can only have one, then pick Prime over him. But if you even remotely thinking picking him up again later, might as well keep him and start saving money on Prime. You never know if you'll see Brawl again at the same or lower price.

As long as you are not the unlucky few to have a defective Brawl or transform him incorrectly, he is a darn good TF toy. I rated it only slightly inferior to Movie Leader Prime, but not by much. Never understand why some people complain about it. Stands, poses and transforms rock solid. Even like it more than some of my BTs, regardless I am a diecast fiend.

Quick question for you-when you're just doing a wash, are you doing it with the figure together or do you still take it completely apart?